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She spends 10 years going to this church which preaches Pope = The AntiChrist.  You can't make this kinda stuff up!



Bachmann quits church

CNN reports that Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has quit her church.

Bachmann, a Minnesota congresswoman, and her husband, Marcus, withdrew their membership from Salem Lutheran Church in Stillwater, Minnesota, last month, according to church officials.

The Bachmanns had been members of the church for more than 10 years, according to Joel Hochmuth, director of communications for the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the broader denominational body of which Bachmann’s former church is a member.

The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod has drawn criticism for being anti-Catholic, CNN adds.

"We identify the Antichrist as the Papacy," the denomination's website says. "This is an historical judgment based on Scripture."
 

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2011, 08:08:08 PM »
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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 09:00:36 AM »
lol

i agree.  I suppose she didn't notice that her pastor was preaching 'the pope is the devil' for ten years?  It showed very poor judgment on obama's part, and the same applies here.

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 11:48:09 AM »
i wonder why she resigned from her church this week?

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 11:49:36 AM »
 ::)

Awful comparison. 

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 11:54:26 AM »
LOL!  Do you ever tell the truth?  Here is the entire article.  Note that she was a member of the church (on the books) for ten years, but only attended for less than eight years.  So your claim that she attended for ten is an ouright lie.

Also note what the Catholic Church has to say about Bachmann:

The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights issued a statement Thursday about Bachmann's denomination, saying it's "regrettable that there are still strains of anti-Catholicism in some Protestant circles."

"But we find no evidence of any bigotry on the part of Rep. Michele Bachmann," the statement continued. "Indeed, she has condemned anti-Catholicism. Just as President Barack Obama is not responsible for the views of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rep. Bachmann must be judged on the basis of her own record."

Michele Bachmann officially leaves her church
By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Washington (CNN) - Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has long been a darling of conservative evangelicals, but shortly before announcing her White House bid, she officially quit a church she’d belonged to for years.

Bachmann, a Minnesota congresswoman, and her husband, Marcus, withdrew their membership from Salem Lutheran Church in Stillwater, Minnesota, last month, according to church officials.

The Bachmanns had been members of the church for more than 10 years, according to Joel Hochmuth, director of communications for the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the broader denominational body of which Bachmann’s former church is a member.

The church council granted the Bachmanns’ request to be released from their membership on June 21, Hochmuth said.

After declaring at the CNN/WMUR/New Hampshire Union Leader presidential debate that she would seek the nomination, Bachmann formally announced her presidential bid June 27 in Waterloo, Iowa.

The Bachmanns approached their pastor and verbally made the request “a few weeks before the church council granted the request,” Hochmuth said. He added, “they had not been attending that congregation in over two years. They were still on the books as members, but then the church council acted on their request and released them from membership.”

Bachmann had listed her membership in the church on her campaign site for congress in 2006. She lists no church affiliation on her campaign website or her official congressional website.

Hochmuth said that a change in membership is not out of the ordinary. “You have people who are on the books as members, but they may have gone on to another church; they may not be attending a church anywhere. There’s all sorts of circumstances.”

A similar request for membership is to transfer membership from one church to another within the denomination. But that does not appear to be the case with the Bachmanns, according to Hochmuth, who said that to his knowledge, the couple was no longer attending a church within the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod.

Pastor Marcus Birkholz has been at the helm of Salem Lutheran Church for nearly three decades. When asked about the Bachmanns leaving the church, he said, “I’ve been asked to make no comments regarding them and their family.”

Bachmann was asked about her status with the church on Thursday at Reagan National Airport as she headed to catch a flight. When asked about her pastor, she asked, “Which one?” An aide quickly hustled her away, noting that they were late for a flight.

The Bachmann campaign declined to immediately respond to a request for further comment Friday.

Becky Rogness, a spokesperson in Bachmann’s congressional office, said the Congresswoman now attends a nondenominational church in the Stillwater area but did not know the name of the church or how long she had been attending.

Hochmuth said that, “My understanding of the situation was the timing of the request for release was far more coincidental than strategic.”

The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod has come under criticism from some Catholics for its views on the papacy, an institution that the denomination calls the Antichrist.

"We identify the Antichrist as the Papacy," the denomination's website says. "This is an historical judgment based on Scripture."

The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights issued a statement Thursday about Bachmann's denomination, saying it's "regrettable that there are still strains of anti-Catholicism in some Protestant circles."

"But we find no evidence of any bigotry on the part of Rep. Michele Bachmann," the statement continued. "Indeed, she has condemned anti-Catholicism. Just as President Barack Obama is not responsible for the views of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Rep. Bachmann must be judged on the basis of her own record."

The debate over the legitimacy of the papacy goes back to the Protestant Reformation. The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod's namesake is Martin Luther, who led the 16th century Reformation and who opposed the papacy.

“The issue of the papacy as the Antichrist does go back to Luther - he did use that terminology,” said Professor George C. Heider, theology chair at Valparaiso University, a Lutheran school in Indiana.

“Luther’s point was, that in his view, the pope was so obstructing the gospel of God’s free love in Jesus, even though he wore all the trappings of a leader in the church," Heider said. "He was functioning as the New Testament describes it as the Antichrist.”

Still, Heider notes that Roman Catholics and Lutherans have close ties today. They recognize each other's baptisms, a point of contention in relations between the Catholic Church and other Protestant denominations.

Salem Lutheran Church still maintains some ties with the Bachmann family. It lists a Christian counseling center operated by Bachmann’s husband on its website under special member services for confidential counseling.

Hochmuth said there are no formal ties between the counseling center and the denomination but added that it is not uncommon for churches to link off to members’ websites as in this case.

Bachmann and Associates has faced accusations that it uses a controversial therapy that encourages gay and lesbian patients to change their sexual orientation.

In an interview with the Minnesota Star Tribune published Friday, Marcus Bachmann did not deny that he or other counselors at his clinic used the technique but said they did so only at the request of a patient.

"Is it a remedy form that I typically would use?” he said. "It is at the client's discretion."

Salem Lutheran Church has about 800 members and holds three services each weekend. The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod is often referred to as theologically conservative. The denomination opposes same-sex marriage and abortion, both positions Bachmann has long endorsed politically.

The denomination has approximately 390,000 members in 48 states and 1,300 congregations in the United States and Canada.

Presidential candidates’ affiliation with churches and pastors played a dramatic role in the 2008 campaign for president.

Then-candidate Barack Obama resigned from his Chicago church in May 2008 after videos surfaced of his longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, delivering fiery sermons that criticized certain U.S. policies.

In the speeches, Wright suggested that the U.S. government may be responsible for the spread of AIDS in the black community and equated some American wartime activities to terrorism.

Wright officiated the Obama’s wedding and baptized his children, and the Obamas were members at Wright’s church for years. After a sustained attention on Wright, Obama distanced himself from his former pastor.

During the same election cycle, Republican presidential nominee John McCain rejected endorsements from two prominent pastors, John Hagee and Rod Parsley, for controversial statements from the pastors’ pasts.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/15/michele-bachmann-officially-leaves-her-church/

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 11:56:31 AM »
LOL!  Do you ever tell the truth?  Here is the entire article.  Note that she was a member of the church (on the books) for ten years, but only attended for less than eight years. 

Great find.  She only attended a church that claimed the pope was the anti-christ for less than 8 years.

So that's not 500 masses.  That's maybe 400 masses.  Cool.  Great point, BB, you're absolutely right here.

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 11:57:33 AM »
so she left this church when she decided to run for office.  Makes sense.  Some wild shit like that, looks pretty bad.  i suppose those 8 years that she was attending every week - she now disagrees with the anti-papal beliefs?

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2011, 11:58:00 AM »
Great find.  She only attended a church that claimed the pope was the anti-christ for less than 8 years.

So that's not 500 masses.  That's maybe 400 masses.  Cool.  Great point, BB, you're absolutely right here.

lol.  You lying liar.  lol . . . .

And I didn't "find" anything.  I simply read the entire article you posted (and distorted). 

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 07:29:49 AM »
8 years of attending such a place.  Won't play well nationally.

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 07:30:37 AM »
The pope probably is the devil....  :-X

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 07:46:13 AM »
240 is again showing himself to be too cute by half again.    Too bad for him we all figured out his bs a longtime ago. 

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 07:49:27 AM »
i think this michelle lady is awesome, to bad we dont have nutcases like that in the politics here in sweden it would have been so much more fun

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 09:49:17 AM »
8 years of attending such a place.  Won't play well nationally.

Dude I'm glad you posted this, you have saved me ::)

What am I missing here? They are anti-catholic? So what? I would take that over anti-white any day of the week
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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 10:00:21 AM »
Funny too - 240 equates attacking the pope w a loon who parroted his bogus 911 cts. 

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2011, 10:02:22 AM »
???

Com on, take forum warfare aside, do you reallythink those two churches are the same?

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2011, 10:04:41 AM »
If he thinks it can be used to trash bachmann ober obama, of course he does.

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2011, 11:11:25 AM »
Still laughing . . . .  :)

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Re: Shades of Reverend Wright? Michelle "The pope is the devil" Bachmann
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2011, 09:32:02 PM »
I will vote bachmann over obama in 2012 if those are the options.

Bachmann isn't running against obama at the moment, in case you guys didn't catch that.  She's running against other repubs.  And I think she's gotta quit these goofy moments that will have her looking like that admitted witchcraft candidate that ran for office last time.