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Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« on: July 19, 2011, 06:33:49 PM »
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Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/07/19/why-is-obama-giving-libya-to-the-russians/ ^ | John Bolton
Posted on July 19, 2011 6:29:25 PM EDT by kronos77

By John Bolton The opinions expressed are his own.

With President Obama’s Libya policy staggering from one embarrassment to another, last week he and Secretary of State Clinton outdid themselves. They publicly welcomed Russia’s effort to insert itself as a mediator, an act of such strategic myopia that it must leave even Moscow’s leadership speechless.

Permanent Security Council members Russia and China abstained on the initial resolution authorizing force to create a Libya no-fly zone and to protect innocent civilians. By not casting a veto, Russia thereby tacitly allowed military action to proceed. As they did, Russia repeatedly second-guessed and harshly criticized NATO’s operations. Now, as a mediator, Russia will, in effect, have the chance to rewrite the Council’s resolution according to its own lights.

Given the uncertain trumpet sounded by both Obama and NATO, and the still-inconclusive outcome of the “kinetic military action,” the reputation and credibility of U.S. and NATO, militarily and politically, have been gravely impaired. The President likely doesn’t appreciate these wounds as he leans over backwards not to be seen as the regime-changing unilateralist he imagined his predecessor to be.

We should hope that Russia fails. Mediation was never the correct answer here. NATO, once committed, must prevail by force of arms, as it still could with a modest demonstration of American leadership. Make no mistake: Welcoming Russian intercession between NATO and a military opponent like Libya is nothing less than a massive humiliation for the Western alliance. If the Obama Administration’s misguided worldview favors mediation, whatever happened to the likes of Sweden and Switzerland?

Not only does Russia now have the possibility of reshaping the Libyan morass to its own ends, it is also well-positioned for a dominant role in post-conflict Libya.

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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 06:37:09 PM »
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http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/07/19/why-is-obama-giving-libya-to-the-russians/ ^ | John Bolton
Posted on July 19, 2011 6:29:25 PM EDT by kronos77

By John Bolton The opinions expressed are his own.

With President Obama’s Libya policy staggering from one embarrassment to another, last week he and Secretary of State Clinton outdid themselves. They publicly welcomed Russia’s effort to insert itself as a mediator, an act of such strategic myopia that it must leave even Moscow’s leadership speechless.

Permanent Security Council members Russia and China abstained on the initial resolution authorizing force to create a Libya no-fly zone and to protect innocent civilians. By not casting a veto, Russia thereby tacitly allowed military action to proceed. As they did, Russia repeatedly second-guessed and harshly criticized NATO’s operations. Now, as a mediator, Russia will, in effect, have the chance to rewrite the Council’s resolution according to its own lights.

Given the uncertain trumpet sounded by both Obama and NATO, and the still-inconclusive outcome of the “kinetic military action,” the reputation and credibility of U.S. and NATO, militarily and politically, have been gravely impaired. The President likely doesn’t appreciate these wounds as he leans over backwards not to be seen as the regime-changing unilateralist he imagined his predecessor to be.

We should hope that Russia fails. Mediation was never the correct answer here. NATO, once committed, must prevail by force of arms, as it still could with a modest demonstration of American leadership. Make no mistake: Welcoming Russian intercession between NATO and a military opponent like Libya is nothing less than a massive humiliation for the Western alliance. If the Obama Administration’s misguided worldview favors mediation, whatever happened to the likes of Sweden and Switzerland?

Not only does Russia now have the possibility of reshaping the Libyan morass to its own ends, it is also well-positioned for a dominant role in post-conflict Libya.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


They are too smart to get involved in a waste of time like the Libyan conflict. If it were up to John Bolton, we would be fighting 10 more wars. At least he is honest.
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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 06:44:49 PM »
If Russia can "help"  here its just as the article says....making us look stupid. More to the point making Europe look stupid. The Russians know we regard them as a joke. But the Europeans  need Russian oil...and Russia has cards to play there. NATO has become a farce with uber liberal countries that can't stomach military action. Not that Libya warranted any of this....
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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 06:45:35 PM »
Decide - why do you think Obama did this? 

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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 06:45:51 PM »
The US needs to leave NATO and the UN. Let's see how well these already failing, ungrateful European socialist experiments do when they need to contribute more than 1% of their GDP to their own defense.

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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 06:48:25 PM »
Decide - why do you think Obama did this? 

I have no idea but the good news is that we will stay in Libya and that is what is important. As long as the money is spent overseas, it's not a waste.
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Re: Why is Obama giving Libya to the Russians?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 06:49:10 PM »
I have no idea but the good news is that we will stay in Libya and that is what is important. As long as the money is spent overseas, it's not a waste.


Lmao.  Sad but true.