80's style? i think the only bodybuilders using insulin in the 80's were diabetics.
Aside from what gh15 says, you can tell the beginning of some distended bellies. Just today, watched Rich Gaspari's posing routine from olympia 87, you can see the waist isn't "tight" enough, not compared to pre 80's bodybuilding.
stomach distension isnt only the result of insulin and gh use. it can happen from steroids alone, from big quantities of food, from poor abdominal control throughout the day, from a lack of ab exercise.. or just from genetics. a friend of mine in high school, pretty thick kid naturally, big pecs for his age, always had a lean stomach but it was distened and would stick out further than his chest.
no idea. maybe p.m. disgusted. hes been in this since those days and might have an idea. modern bodybuilders will go as high as 150iu per day (or more).
It's understanding and application seem a lot more important than actual doses. I think like SEOs it really, really depends on how you observe your body's reaction and response to it, and how you make the best use of it.I almost forgot how fucking amazing it is. I've finally found the discipline to shred down hardcore (test only, waiting on hormonas), so maybe I'll abuse this once I've got trenbologna and masterona coursing through me. Should make for an impressive mutation considering how long I've been off/cruising for.Stavios' thread got me pumped up on training and eating more disciplined again
question for Van or disgusted[/b] Dennis on insulin in this vid in your opinion?My guess says no.by how good he looks..but g15 would say I am wrong as 5'11 competing at 250 is impossble without lots of insulin in blood.
I don't know honestly.He did confess to using insulin in an interview years later, after his illness. But he never got even close to that level/shape again.I know a guy very close to those stats who swears he hasn't touched insulin yet but I don't know him real well and he's secretive about his use to closer friends too. You can never trust a bb.
I don't get why these lugs put insulin on a pedestal.Like anything else, it can be abused. Unless it's being abused it's just another tool in the arsenal. This game is all drugs anyway FFS.
modern bodybuilders will go as high as 150iu per day (or more).
yeah I know the type Van. Know one guy who proudly admits to cruisng on a gram of test and 10iu of gh, been on tren for years straight, but the moment I bring up insulin his face gets red and angry and starts getting really defensive. Starts talking about how disciplined he is and how he eats 3 pounds of fish a day and saying he never needed many drugs to get huge One thing in common with these oldtimers I notice..once you touch insulin your basicly saying "I couldn't" ... and your no longer a "true" bodybuilder. (: But 20 iu gh is fine and dandy and part of the game. Aint that right Coach?
this fella is the MOST knowledable and most serious individual on any boarding ever that talk hormones,, everything he says is alwys accurate ,, i never seen such a thing,, he is very very very very in the know and on spot with every word come out of his computer,, getny should have his right ball cut for the things he said about van b ,, getny should be shamed to ever been seen again on getbig.com,, van b is the best getbig.com hasgh15 approved
Van, stavios, tbombz, and groink for mods. That would just about sum up the personality of getbig, no? We'd have a long time Vet, world's best bro scientist, a bisexual Thomas Jane, and a drug abusing pyschopath all in one.
, and a drug abusing pyschopath .
Van should have mod power and be able to ban every bullshitter without any explainationbut then there wouldn't be much people posting on getbig
The whole beauty of getbig is the relative lack of moderation. As long as we can call each other out it's alright. Let the reader decide who to believe. And thanks gh15, you're too nice. Of course now the Danta crew thinks I'm thanking myself or someone I know.
