Author Topic: Obama: " cut defense, not food stamps" (Read 1256 times)

Soul Crusher · « **on:** July 22, 2011, 04:12:31 AM »

Obama: Cut Defense Spending As Opposed To Food Stamps (audio)
RealClearPolitics ^ | July 21, 2011 | July 21, 2011

"A lot of the spending cuts that we're making should be around areas like defense spending as opposed to food stamps," President Obama told in an interview with NPR.

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240 is Back · « **Reply #1 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:58:31 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 22, 2011, 04:12:31 AM

Obama: Cut Defense Spending As Opposed To Food Stamps (audio)
RealClearPolitics ^ | July 21, 2011 | July 21, 2011

"A lot of the spending cuts that we're making should be around areas like defense spending as opposed to food stamps," President Obama told in an interview with NPR.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...

you have said we should cut our defense budget by 50% over the next 5 years, 333386.

Finally, you and Obama are in agreement@!

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:58:41 AM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/21/obama_cut_defense_spending_as_opposed_to_food_stamps.html

What a dirtbag. If the economy recovered we would not have as many on food stamps and this piece of dirt obama does not grasp that.

he is the typical commie redistributionist.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:59:56 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2011, 05:58:31 AM

you have said we should cut our defense budget by 50% over the next 5 years, 333386.

Finally, you and Obama are in agreement@!

And I also would have people on food stamps in work boots at 8 am on a farm plowing the fields in the sweltering heat. Why did you leave that out?

240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2011, 06:02:08 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 22, 2011, 05:59:56 AM

And I also would have people on food stamps in work boots at 8 am on a farm plowing the fields in the sweltering heat. Why did you leave that out?

i agree with you there. why do you suppose bush didn't implement such a program?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2011, 06:14:04 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2011, 06:02:08 AM

i agree with you there. why do you suppose bush didn't implement such a program?

We all know why. As a nation - we are on a suicidal course of bullshit. GWB was a big govt hack himself and wanted to be "compassionate" so he would never call it like it is.

Me, I would either have food depots where people can get beans, rice, barley, in rations, or nothing.

If these parasites dont like it - let em starve.

Necrosis · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2011, 12:55:37 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 22, 2011, 06:14:04 AM

We all know why. As a nation - we are on a suicidal course of bullshit. GWB was a big govt hack himself and wanted to be "compassionate" so he would never call it like it is.

Me, I would either have food depots where people can get beans, rice, barley, in rations, or nothing.

If these parasites dont like it - let em starve.

you are a fucking retard LMAO..

your country spends hundreds of billions more then the next nation and are slowly being overcome as the global superpower because of stupid decisions.

Life isnt black and white, nor is it fair. As a doctor i have seen people grow up in conditions that were appalling, left with congenital illnesses they didnt ask for. These people are parasites?

you are probably a christian right? i geuss jesus diagrees with your treatment of the sick and struggling. If you were born into a family with benefits and ample opportunity why should you not give back? we all dont have the same starting point and to suggest as much is unfair, the only way for you guys to succeed is for all people to be elevated.

you act as if hardwork is all that is required, work hard and your dreams will come true. I doubt it when you have a crackhead mother are malnourished and suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome. I bet if you proposed that those people could work in a field for food and money they would, there is a reason why the unemployment rate is climbing and its not because they dont want to have basic human needs or struggle through life. I hope you never have to face hardships

tonymctones · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:01:54 PM »

^^^^

you know nothing of our problems, so please either educate yourself or refrain from speaking on them...

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:04:55 PM »

I live in the bronx and have yet to see one black or white guy standing at a day labor site where people get picked up, even in the good times.

Bro - I live in the bronx, I know the deal. Most of those who don't work are lazy pieces of garbage.

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:08:56 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 01:04:55 PM

I live in the bronx and have yet to see one black or white guy standing at a day labor site where people get picked up, even in the good times.

Bro - I live in the bronx, I know the deal. Most of those who don't work are lazy pieces of garbage.

You either A) Are dumb or B) Misspoke

Are you saying most of those who don't work that you know in the Bronx are lazy pieces of garbage (Which may be true)

or

Are you saying most of those who don't work in America are lazy pieces of garbage because most of those who don't work in the Bronx are lazy pieces of garbage?

Necrosis · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:16:44 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 23, 2011, 01:01:54 PM

^^^^

you know nothing of our problems, so please either educate yourself or refrain from speaking on them...

nice rebuttal, full of reasoned arguments and facts, aren't you the guy who believes in the bible? answer me this, do you believe in noahs ark as a literal story, if yes then i know all i need to know of your intellectual level and powers of reasoning. Do you think your country is somehow unique, that humanity isn't similar throughout the globe? do you think that there isn't enough information to make fair deductions on the issues you face?

when i see generalizations such as those made by you and 33 i have to wonder if you are capable of reasoned argumentation.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:18:20 PM »

Problem is that most of these people have terrible work ethic, no skills, have a criminal record, and can get more money to do nothing on welfare than at low skill jobs and work their way up the hard way.

I see it daily w the human trash and garbage on the corner near me. They rather deal drugs, hang out, etc than sling a hammer, work a fryer, or do something productive.

I have not an ounce of sympathy for most of these parasites and leeches.

Most people who drive down the grand concourse or webster ave in the bronx any typical day would be shocked at what they saw.

Life in the urban ghetto and streets is a lot different than the bullshit academic bs spoon fed to you.

Most of these skells and slugs want handouts, not work.

tonymctones · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:18:35 PM »

Quote from: Necrosis on July 23, 2011, 01:16:44 PM

nice rebuttal, full of reasoned arguments and facts, aren't you the guy who believes in the bible? answer me this, do you believe in noahs ark as a literal story, if yes then i know all i need to know of your intellectual level and powers of reasoning. Do you think your country is somehow unique, that humanity isn't similar throughout the globe? do you think that there isn't enough information to make fair deductions on the issues you face?

when i see generalizations such as those made by you and 33 i have to wonder if you are capable of reasoned argumentation.

lol what reasoning and logic did you use in your response?

oh yes try to infer your personal experiences outside of the US to the problems with in the US...

again you know nothing of our problems, so either educate yourself or refrain from speaking on them

Necrosis · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:30:48 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 23, 2011, 01:18:35 PM

lol what reasoning and logic did you use in your response?

oh yes try to infer your personal experiences outside of the US to the problems with in the US...

again you know nothing of our problems, so either educate yourself or refrain from speaking on them

i didnt infer personal problems i am basing my opinion on the facts coming out the states.

Fact: you guys spend lightyears more then the next country on defense while people starve in the streets
fact: the rich are more profitable then ever, enjoy more wealth then ever and pay less taxes then ever
fact: unemployment has risen steadily
fact: your healthcare system sucks fucking balls, you have the highest payout for health care with one of worse groupings of prognosis among the population, it is a shit system centered on reactionary medicine.

again you people are not unique nor do you have access to something i do not aside from personal experience which you already dismissed a viable evidence, hence you cannot claim i know nothing based on my geographic location. The data is there for all to see, its almost comical how much regression you guys are allowing, from arguing about evolution at the state level, to cutting scientific research funding and going to wars all over the globe while your country goes down the shitter.

and for the record my first post contained reasoned arguments, not sure what you were reading.

edit: you ruled out experience outside the us, i would argue that you are correct, but it is not a requirement to rationally argue about the state of your nation.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:35:04 PM »

Where are you from yoda?

Dos Equis · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:38:09 PM »

Quote from: Necrosis on July 23, 2011, 12:55:37 PM

you are a fucking retard LMAO..

your country spends hundreds of billions more then the next nation and are slowly being overcome as the global superpower because of stupid decisions.

Overcome by who?

Necrosis · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:44:03 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on July 23, 2011, 01:38:09 PM

Overcome by who?

china is one prominent country, i would place others ahead of yours in so many ways but under the classical criteria are not ahead economically in a sense.

Necrosis · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:45:10 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 23, 2011, 01:35:04 PM

Where are you from yoda?

canada

tonymctones · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:48:12 PM »

Quote from: Necrosis on July 23, 2011, 01:30:48 PM

i didnt infer personal problems i am basing my opinion on the facts coming out the states.

Fact: you guys spend lightyears more then the next country on defense while people starve in the streets
fact: the rich are more profitable then ever, enjoy more wealth then ever and pay less taxes then ever
fact: unemployment has risen steadily
fact: your healthcare system sucks fucking balls, you have the highest payout for health care with one of worse groupings of prognosis among the population, it is a shit system centered on reactionary medicine.

again you people are not unique nor do you have access to something i do not aside from personal experience which you already dismissed a viable evidence, hence you cannot claim i know nothing based on my geographic location. The data is there for all to see, its almost comical how much regression you guys are allowing, from arguing about evolution at the state level, to cutting scientific research funding and going to wars all over the globe while your country goes down the shitter.

and for the record my first post contained reasoned arguments, not sure what you were reading.

edit: you ruled out experience outside the us, i would argue that you are correct, but it is not a requirement to rationally argue about the state of your nation.

ppl will always starve in the streets...
the "rich" pay more taxes than anybody in this country the top 10% of income earners pay for 99% of total income tax...guess you didnt get that in your readings?
unemployment has risen steadily b/c companies have become leaner and are not looking to take chances right now due to uncertainty in future expenses
Our health care is one of the best in the world, which is why ppl come from all over the world to be taken care of in the US...

AGAIN YOU KNOW NOTHING OF OUR PROBLEMS!!!

Dos Equis · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:49:59 PM »

Quote from: Necrosis on July 23, 2011, 01:44:03 PM

china is one prominent country, i would place others ahead of yours in so many ways but under the classical criteria are not ahead economically in a sense.

What is your criteria?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2011, 01:56:11 PM »

Quote from: Necrosis on July 23, 2011, 01:45:10 PM

canada

Funny too, Canada is doing better as it gets away from far leftist bullshit and we get worse as we go towards socialistic bullshit.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2011, 02:21:06 PM »

So we have to get lectured by a Canadian....dude nobody here cares about your politics. Oddly u care about ours. Why, well it sorta goes back to the whole point of this thread. The US can't afford to cut defense, atleast not near as much as the leftist dumbass thats in office wants to. Why, because we matter....nobody else is capable of keeping the nutbags from doing god knows what. Look at Libya....its a friggen disgrace. Barry has left it to our NATO allies and its a joke. The Europeans would sell the entire continent to the rags to stay politically correct.

Necrosis · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2011, 02:38:40 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 23, 2011, 01:48:12 PM

ppl will always starve in the streets...
the "rich" pay more taxes than anybody in this country the top 10% of income earners pay for 99% of total income tax...guess you didnt get that in your readings?
unemployment has risen steadily b/c companies have become leaner and are not looking to take chances right now due to uncertainty in future expenses
Our health care is one of the best in the world, which is why ppl come from all over the world to be taken care of in the US...

AGAIN YOU KNOW NOTHING OF OUR PROBLEMS!!!

definition of rich and then the percentage of income they pay in taxes if you will.

Necrosis · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2011, 02:45:42 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 23, 2011, 01:48:12 PM

ppl will always starve in the streets...
the "rich" pay more taxes than anybody in this country the top 10% of income earners pay for 99% of total income tax...guess you didnt get that in your readings?
unemployment has risen steadily b/c companies have become leaner and are not looking to take chances right now due to uncertainty in future expenses
Our health care is one of the best in the world, which is why ppl come from all over the world to be taken care of in the US...

AGAIN YOU KNOW NOTHING OF OUR PROBLEMS!!!

the top 1% own 40%0f the naitons wealth, a number that has increased by 18% in the last decade, meanwhile middle class average income has decreased considerably.

also, take into account this sheer inequality, that is only seen in nations like russia and you have a shit economic system. Both the marginal-productivity theory and the horse and sparrow theory of trickle down economics does not work, its quite clear.

Necrosis · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2011, 03:00:47 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 23, 2011, 01:48:12 PM

ppl will always starve in the streets...
the "rich" pay more taxes than anybody in this country the top 10% of income earners pay for 99% of total income tax...guess you didnt get that in your readings?
unemployment has risen steadily b/c companies have become leaner and are not looking to take chances right now due to uncertainty in future expenses
Our health care is one of the best in the world, which is why ppl come from all over the world to be taken care of in the US...

AGAIN YOU KNOW NOTHING OF OUR PROBLEMS!!!

again just want to reiterate that the rich have never seen more prosperity then now they enjoy the lowest tax payouts in the last 50 years and your economy is failing, do you not see anything wrong with this? If these job creators were really working, why is unemployment up, yet they are recording record profits? why is GE paying no tax? when making billions of dollars?

where is the fruit of all the tax breaks?

clinton had the country on the right track, bush fucked it completely and obama is continuing it. Im do not care about parties, im a rationalist, what you are doing isn't working, tax cuts have never worked, a human will protect his interests, its obvious. You want to make more profits and one way to do that is to lower pay outs to employees, to find ways to be more effiecient on less money and unfortunately the middle man gets the shitter.

more taxing and less loopholes on the ultra rich and less spending for defense of people while your country rots. You have no reason for all this military spending, it absolutely eclipses previous spending and the spending of other nations, why?

sure people will always be starving i agree, however, unlike your elitest attitude i would prefer that not be the status quo and argue that there is no good reason why it should be so. communism doesn't work but the spirit of charity and humanity need not perish, if you make millions a year, give back, you dont need 10 cars, sure its your right but those kids born into poverty with no food on the table could become productive citizens if you forgo your 500 dollar bottle of wine.

your healthcare system is not one of the best in the world, it gets few results for the general population, you spend the most and get the least return. You have the best doctors no doubt, because they can make more money thus rich people prefer this system of healthcare. You have no idea about what healthcare entails, your levels of sedentary and lifestyle illness is skyrocketing while the chronically ill cannot afford proper treatment. If you need surgery sure, but if you suffer with MS, your country is shite.

The health care system sucks and you have some of the best doctors in the world.