Nasser vs. Shawn in the RLS Pose!!..

[mesmorph78]

There is a huge difference between Nasser in post #1 and Nasser in post #16.

In post #1, as big as he his, he looks like a blob and his ass is about to fall out of his pants. Yes, his back is holding its own in terms of size but Ray, in my opinion wins that pose because of the lines and balance he brings. Nasser simply cannot match him in that regard.

In post #16, he looks much more aesthetic and he doesn't look as if he is about melt. And because he looks as if he not melting, he actually compares much more favourably with Ray and a case can be made for him beating Ray in that shot.

In bodybuilding, blobs should never triumph over sculptures.

wouldnt call nasser a blob ... but shape with size proportionate should be king....

[Parker]

Great thread Sherief!  Nasser's back being a weakness was really over-exaggerated as he had wide and thick lats and overall a great rear lat spread as you proved above. 

It was not his width or thickness per se, it was the lack of detail that was the issue...
Had he had a more detailed back, I could possibly see him beating Flex at the 97 AC---regardless of Flex's lines.

[On_Swole]

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[the_swami]

Nasser kills Shawn in the RLS

Nasser's back was huge- , wide and thick. in the RLS it jsut wasnt as dry or detailed in the RDB.

Nasser in 98 was amazing, his conditioning in the O that year was prob. his best ever.

The O could have certainly been given to Nasser in 98 esp with Ronnie's terrible gyno and lack of calves.

[Shockwave]

Nasser kills Shawn in the RLS

Nasser's back was huge- , wide and thick. in the RLS it jsut wasnt as dry or detailed in the RDB.

Nasser in 98 was amazing, his conditioning in the O that year was prob. his best ever.

The O could have certainly been given to Nasser in 98 esp with Ronnie's terrible gyno and lack of calves.

Nasser should and could have won 97 over Dorians mangled body far and away before he should have beaten Ron in 98.
But agree on both points with the gyno and lack of calves, dont forget random crap 4 pack abs. But 98 was Ronnies best year ever, only year he approached Dorians dryness.

[erics]

If a physique has a certain amount of flare to it, then that flare goes a long way towards cancelling out any blob look that carrying too much muscle does to a physique.

Shawn Ray was never too big for his frame and his physique had a certain amount of flare when he posed.

Nasser, whom I thought looked great earlier in his career, started to have too much muscle for his frame. He was able to carry it well enough, I guess, but he lost his earlier flare because of it.

Bodybuilding judges ought not to be rewarding physiques that go beyond their frames.

[bigbobs]

Nasser kills Shawn in the RLS

Nasser's back was huge- , wide and thick. in the RLS it jsut wasnt as dry or detailed in the RDB.

Nasser in 98 was amazing, his conditioning in the O that year was prob. his best ever.

The O could have certainly been given to Nasser in 98 esp with Ronnie's terrible gyno and lack of calves.

qft

[Sherief Shalaby]

If a physique has a certain amount of flare to it, then that flare goes a long way towards cancelling out any blob look that carrying too much muscle does to a physique.

Shawn Ray was never too big for his frame and his physique had a certain amount of flare when he posed.

Nasser, whom I thought looked great earlier in his career, started to have too much muscle for his frame. He was able to carry it well enough, I guess, but he lost his earlier flare because of it.

Bodybuilding judges ought not to be rewarding physiques that go beyond their frames.

not true at all because in 96 nasser competed in the olympia and GP tour at +285 pounds and still looked great.. same in 1999 when he won the AC at 289 pound,.. still was not as good as in 96 but was very good and it was his heaviest contest weight ever..

[Kulutues]

The oddity of Nasser's shape shows from the back.  Weird looking torso, no back detail.  Sorry gh15