Sdrol usage question

[Bespetna]

Going to be running a 4-6month bulk and wanting to try Sdrol (this will be my first PH/steroid cycle ever). I understand you use it for only 4 weeks, but when should I cycle? If I start the first month (of the bulk) on it after I finish will I feel like crap for a few months and won't make further gains. Or should I wait till the end of my bulk (or 1 month before then end for my body to get used to the gains Sdrol free)  to allow for my natural bulk gains to be boosted when the gains start to slow down.

Ive been reading a good bit over the years about steroids/PHs, just recently finished the book The Layman's Guide To Steroids as well.

Here is a pic of me ATM, have cut down to 14.5% BF, 190lbs, 5'8'', 19YO. (put it in for the hell of it).

[makaveli25]

Don't just use superdrol by itself. That shit it so toxic I can't stand it for more than a week or two. Get some testerone. Run 250-500mg of test and you can throw some superdrol on top of that. Maybe add it in the first 2 weeks and then again at the end.

[Bespetna]

Don't just use superdrol by itself. That shit it so toxic I can't stand it for more than a week or two. Get some testerone. Run 250-500mg of test and you can throw some superdrol on top of that. Maybe add it in the first 2 weeks and then again at the end.

I've herd that before, i but what exactly do you mean by so toxic? Will it make me just feel sick inside all day? A friend of mine is selling me a bottle for $20 (he got 3) becouse he said he couldn't stand it. I may add some test, I can buy it local but I know the guy is gonna charge me a lot.
Idk why the image won't work, he's a diect link: http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4781/editedbbb.png

[lesaucer]

750mg test+ sdrol 20mg everyday for 5 weeks+ a good ai= great first cycle

[makaveli25]

750mg test+ sdrol 20mg everyday for 5 weeks+ a good ai= great first cycle

You don't need 750mg of test for a first cycle 300-500mg is plenty!

[Bespetna]

Should I run injectable test for just 1 month? Or do a full 12 week cycle, I know a pretty well known bodybuilder who got 2nd place this yr in a show that would of made him pro had he gotten first. The think is he just cares about $$$. A big concern of mine as well is my natty test lvls after I stop he gear, how hard will this light/short cycle effect my natty test.

[Rearden Metal]

Hate to go all grandpa on you, but IMO you should hold off a bit longer on AAS. I know gh15 says the pro's start way early but at 19 you still have crazy high test and gh in your system to work with naturally. I'd hold off another year or two.

If you are going to go for it, skip the orals. Go with a test base at 500mg/week and add in 250-300mg/week in deca, NPP or primabolan. If you don't see results from that, either your gear is fake or you have poop for genetics. You should put on 15-20 lbs of solid weight over a 16 week cycle. If you add orals, maybe 25-30 lbs but it's going to be water weight so don't bother unless you are low singles in bodyfat.

If you want to be huge, stay lean ALWAYS.

[Bespetna]

Hate to go all grandpa on you, but IMO you should hold off a bit longer on AAS. I know gh15 says the pro's start way early but at 19 you still have crazy high test and gh in your system to work with naturally. I'd hold off another year or two.

If you are going to go for it, skip the orals. Go with a test base at 500mg/week and add in 250-300mg/week in deca, NPP or primabolan. If you don't see results from that, either your gear is fake or you have poop for genetics. You should put on 15-20 lbs of solid weight over a 16 week cycle. If you add orals, maybe 25-30 lbs but it's going to be water weight so don't bother unless you are low singles in bodyfat.

If you want to be huge, stay lean ALWAYS.

I understand, I just wanted try something new out. For me the gym is as much experaminting with your body (supplaments, food, training) as it is making gains. A month supply of good quality SDrol for $20 isn't bad eather.

[delta9mda]

dude, im going to go all grandpa on you- yuo really need to read up a lot more before getting started.

basically- test 300-500 (no more than that needed for real fuck what gh15 says) per week, divided over 2 shots per week. 10 weeks is plenty but 16 is better (1st time)

superdrol- stay low dose with it, 10-20mg per day, 2 weeks on 1 week off over the cycle.

get arimidex or aromasin and use over the entire cycle. also will need nolva for after (during pct). there are plenty of anti-estro topics here and pct.

i know other bros will join in and help out.

listen to what arnoldjr says.


fuck gh15 up the ass with a truck

[Bespetna]

Haha, thanks man, even im aware of gh15 from another none steroid fitness site. If you guys could tell me about how much test would be for 10 weeks @200mg first 2 then 500mg for the rest that would be great since I don't want to get scamed. I'm also very worried about natty test production after this point. For example after 6months from a 10 week cycle will my test lvls be 100%?

[DK II]

10 weeks is too short, your test production will be shut down anyways, so go for 16 weeks.

How long you will need to recover, no one can tell you.

[chess315]

if you ruin superdrol 20mg for 4 weeks you will be fine you will gain muscle you wont get sick could possibly feel like shit. It is not optimal but yes you will gain muscle and not die. YOU should gain around 10-15lbs and add about 30lbs to your compound lifts. Is it smart I dont know or do i care. but it wont kill u by no means

[Bespetna]

if you ruin superdrol 20mg for 4 weeks you will be fine you will gain muscle you wont get sick could possibly feel like shit. It is not optimal but yes you will gain muscle and not die. YOU should gain around 10-15lbs and add about 30lbs to your compound lifts. Is it smart I dont know or do i care. but it wont kill u by no means

That would be awesome, I just want to try something to cap off a natty bulk, just to bring it to the next level. Ive herd of people losing a lot of this mass. I will want to go directly into a cut (maybe 1 week break) after I bulk. How can I make sure I don't lost most of the gains. I am thinking about 4-5months clean natty bulk (macro wise nothing crazy like 3200-3500cals MAX) then doing the Sdrol and just laying all my shit down IE 4.5k cals.

[DK II]

That would be awesome, I just want to try something to cap off a natty bulk, just to bring it to the next level. Ive herd of people losing a lot of this mass. I will want to go directly into a cut (maybe 1 week break) after I bulk. How can I make sure I don't lost most of the gains. I am thinking about 4-5months clean natty bulk (macro wise nothing crazy like 3200-3500cals MAX) then doing the Sdrol and just laying all my shit down IE 4.5k cals.

Cutting directly after the bulk cycle on sdrol is a recipe for disaster.

Bulk for 2 months natty, then do the sdrol, then bulk some more or reduce calories slowly.

[delta9mda]

why cut? im really, just eat clean as you hit the gear and do some cardio.

limit carbs to the first half of the day.

[Bespetna]

Cutting directly after the bulk cycle on sdrol is a recipe for disaster.

Bulk for 2 months natty, then do the sdrol, then bulk some more or reduce calories slowly.

Thanks bro, that is what ill do, probably more then 2 months natty, i just really want to see what its capable of by itself, then ill hit it with the Sdrol, currently bulking at 3.2k-3.5k cals. Medium carb, very high protein diet.