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More lies
« on: July 25, 2011, 01:38:51 PM »
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/through_the_looking_glass031084.php

i also loved his little media scrum the other day where he literally refuses to answer any questions and abruptly leaves.

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Re: More lies
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 01:46:51 PM »
Pure fucking nonsense. 


Boehner agreed to 800 billion in new revenues over 10 years.   He had a deal and at the last minute Obama came in demanding 400 Billion more on top of that after pelosi and the far left freaked.   


Stop your bs.   some of us know better. 

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Re: More lies
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 01:51:40 PM »
Pure fucking nonsense. 


Boehner agreed to 800 billion in new revenues over 10 years.   He had a deal and at the last minute Obama came in demanding 400 Billion more on top of that after pelosi and the far left freaked.   


Stop your bs.   some of us know better. 

sure he did, sure he did. Provide the evidence for your claim. Obama stated he would release all the discussion points as he has nothing to hide. The evidence is right there, you are wrong, you know it.

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Re: More lies
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 01:56:50 PM »
LMFAO!!!!!

Are you kidding?   




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Re: More lies
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 02:11:57 PM »
LMFAO!!!!!

Are you kidding?   





yes, you are claiming he introduced something at the last minute that was not previously discussed? is this correct?

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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 02:15:08 PM »
yes, you are claiming he introduced something at the last minute that was not previously discussed? is this correct?

I go by Boehners' presser, geithner on meet the press, etc.   

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Re: More lies
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 02:16:55 PM »
Speaking of lies - you want me to show you some lies obama told on healthcare? 

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Re: More lies
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 02:17:28 PM »
Speaking of lies - you want me to show you some lies obama told on healthcare? 

red herring the argument

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 02:18:19 PM »
red herring the argument

Goes to credibility and veracity of the witness.   



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Re: More lies
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 02:22:09 PM »
Goes to credibility and veracity of the witness.   



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ad hominem

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 02:25:33 PM »
ad hominem

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no, in a court of law, past frauds and lies can be used to impeach the charachter of the witness. 

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Re: More lies
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 02:26:40 PM »
no, in a court of law, past frauds and lies can be used to impeach the charachter of the witness.  

You misspoke when you said "no", what I said was exactly correct

it's still a logical fallacy most often used by children and politicians

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Re: More lies
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 03:16:53 PM »
i dont care if you show me lies about a different subject, what im saying is the report that obama pulled some stunt at the last second is completely false, they also rejected the proposal because it didnt effect medicare while it contained no new taxes.

Im sure he lied, outright lie probably not even so im a rationalist, many circumstances may change and this is a complex process however so it can sometimes get muddied however obama did no such thing and the repubs are doing a very poor job with the handling of this situation as per the american publics distaste for their tactics.

why are you against taxing the wealthy and reducing the inqequality in pay? their profits are coming from the workers, this is a fact look at the data, wages have stabilized, benefits have been decreased while corporations are sending work overseas and experiencing the best economic prosperity they ever have. Meanwhile job creation has not occured and the economy has descended all while these circumstances exist.

obama's policies and actions have been more repub then demo, bush gutted the economy and obama continues.

There are some clear cut issues that you seem to ignore.

1.the rich are richer during a period where the middle class, seniors and poor have seen decreased income, unemployment has increased stedily. Thus the rich are enjoying more then ever and have an 18% tax bracket which is appauling (i pay 50% by the way, half of what i make is taken). It's all relative as well, 18% of a middle class families income is alot wrt their quality of life which cannot be said of the ultra rich.

2. The military spending has seen growth that is unprecedented and is appauling. It is 6 times more then china and roughly 40% of the global arms issuing. How can you justify this spending? the war on terror? give me a break, this isn't WW3 and as democracy and peace increase military spending should go down, however, its just the opposite.

3. You need way more scientific funding, way more. Its the future, technology will pay for itself and should be the backbone of society.

I honestly think these are the key issues, however, there are a ton more but its quite obvious what the american people want.

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Re: More lies
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 04:07:09 PM »
Do u like losing 50% of ur  income...we here in the US don't. We're not Canada. As for number 2..are u fucking kidding me. Defend  "as democracy and peace increase" military spending should go down, however, its just the opposite.

U could not possible defend that. Are u that naive..what the hell is in the air in Canada.
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