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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2011, 08:58:56 AM »
105's?
Ego, I tell you...

He's probably not yet ready for that weight
Don't think that's all ego he did press it himself  at least he's not doing bench press and having a friend pull the weight off him
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2011, 08:59:14 AM »
105's?
Ego, I tell you...

check out his "skull crushers".....


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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2011, 09:02:54 AM »
Im real advanced yo, I do some triangle pushups

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2011, 09:08:13 AM »
Im real advanced yo, I do some triangle pushups
Those are quite good used to do them before I joined a gym
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2011, 09:12:48 AM »
Those are quite good used to do them before I joined a gym
I see what you did there ;D

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 12:11:56 PM »
I see what you did there ;D
I did nothing just stated a truth
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 12:14:25 PM »
Tried them both today before back
Tate presses are a little amazed still really felt it in the tricep though
I'm presses I prefer these I felt deep in the tris the incline version is even harder
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 01:14:44 PM »
With the Tate press where in the routine should it fall?

Ideal sets/reps scheme?

Does it hit lateral medial or long heads most effectively?

Ideal overall routine for triceps mass? Thinking today about doing straight bar pressdowns, tate press, close grip dips. Thoughts anyone??

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 01:48:50 PM »
With the Tate press where in the routine should it fall?

Ideal sets/reps scheme?

Does it hit lateral medial or long heads most effectively?

Ideal overall routine for triceps mass? Thinking today about doing straight bar pressdowns, tate press, close grip dips. Thoughts anyone??
Tried them today I'd recommend the the jm press over the Tate press
And on my arm day Friday I'm gonna pum my tris full then do jm presses
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 01:59:54 PM »
Tried them today I'd recommend the the jm press over the Tate press
And on my arm day Friday I'm gonna pum my tris full then do jm presses
Tate Press seems like a lying down version of the tricep kickback....I think Ronnie in one of his vids was doing the tricep kickback standing up, and he was doing the same movement, except starting  the movement chest--then out.

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 02:04:16 PM »
3 sets cable pushdowns, 5-10 reps each, staying at least 1 rep shy of failure. heavy weight, good form. squeeze the tricep at the bottom.  repeat every 4-5 days.

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2011, 02:46:53 PM »
the muscle doesnt know whether its pressing or extending..and squeezing at the top/bottom makes no difference.

when you do a new movement it always feels like "it really works"..cos its different.

 do some research on how muscles work and how the mechanics of the body works also so you can determine what is good and bad advice and what is just pointless advice.

recommending just cables is pointless advice, for instance.

its coincidental that you benefit from it because its a better fit to your mechanical layout.

for others the reverse would be true.




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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2011, 03:01:52 PM »
3 sets cable pushdowns, 5-10 reps each, staying at least 1 rep shy of failure. heavy weight, good form. squeeze the tricep at the bottom.  repeat every 4-5 days.
My tris are way to advanced for that... Wouldn't do anything for me that... I think cables give a pumP
But never built any size for me all my size came from free weight
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 03:08:35 PM »
My tris are way to advanced for that... Wouldn't do anything for me that... I think cables give a pumP
But never built any size for me all my size came from free weight
Exactly. Like you, my best came from heavy french presses (esp. drop sets!) and behind-the-head seated db presses. Got old, and tendons came and went, mostly went. Still soldiering on. Hammer tricep machine is still aces.

 

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 03:10:35 PM »
My tris are way to advanced for that... Wouldn't do anything for me that... I think cables give a pumP
But never built any size for me all my size came from free weight
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2011, 03:15:33 PM »
larry the legend. a & b = LS
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 03:33:27 PM »
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What's the rolling eyes for jeez 99% of you people here are drug addicts and because you are everyone must be ... Sad
Anyway I'm not dragging this thread into that so people who are hear to talk training I will happily conversate with everything else will be ignored
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Anyone else here that uses these exercises and  what are your thought on them gains technique etc
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2011, 03:52:47 PM »
the muscle doesnt know whether its pressing or extending..and squeezing at the top/bottom makes no difference.

when you do a new movement it always feels like "it really works"..cos its different.

 do some research on how muscles work and how the mechanics of the body works also so you can determine what is good and bad advice and what is just pointless advice.

recommending just cables is pointless advice, for instance.

its coincidental that you benefit from it because its a better fit to your mechanical layout.

for others the reverse would be true.


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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2011, 04:24:36 PM »
What's the rolling eyes for jeez 99% of you people here are drug addicts and because you are everyone must be ... Sad

   ::) i rolled my eyes because you think your too advanced for my suggestion.  there is no way possible i oculd have meant anything to do with drug use. thats coming from you, not me. maybe a bit of a fruedian slip on ur part.


your not too advanced to train lower volume, sub failure. in fact the more advanced you get the less volume and the less intensity your muscles can handle. if your truly so advancd then your volume would be dramatically reduced.

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2011, 04:32:55 PM »
I do JM presses on upper body day.

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2011, 06:13:32 PM »
the muscle doesnt know whether its pressing or extending..and squeezing at the top/bottom makes no difference.

when you do a new movement it always feels like "it really works"..cos its different.

 do some research on how muscles work and how the mechanics of the body works also so you can determine what is good and bad advice and what is just pointless advice.

recommending just cables is pointless advice, for instance.

its coincidental that you benefit from it because its a better fit to your mechanical layout.

for others the reverse would be true.





actually your pretty damn wrong,,,on alot of things look at mesomoprhs triceps you want triceps like you do his routine,,,to get them the triceps knows whats going on your mind tells teh muscle whats going on,,,mesomoprh know sthis if you want larry scott triceps you do his stuff to get them,,,,,,the tricep knows if you do presdown, jdm, etc,,,hence thats why everyones triceps are different,,,,I promise you that you follow mesmoprhs routein you will get triceps like his,,,why else would mesomoprh is asking questions on routines to see what others triceps look like so he can get the same look,,,,,if he hates his triceps.

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2011, 06:23:47 PM »
   ::) i rolled my eyes because you think your too advanced for my suggestion.  there is no way possible i oculd have meant anything to do with drug use. thats coming from you, not me. maybe a bit of a fruedian slip on ur part.


your not too advanced to train lower volume, sub failure. in fact the more advanced you get the less volume and the less intensity your muscles can handle. if your truly so advancd then your volume would be dramatically reduced.


You misunderstand no one is ever to advanced to learn ..  I mean my tris are very seasoned cables do very little for me ... Size wise   
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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2011, 08:53:35 PM »
Mesomporph hit it right on the head. The day you think you know-it-all is the day you fail. (GH15 are you listening?)

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2011, 08:59:37 PM »
Mesomporph hit it right on the head. The day you think you know-it-all is the day you fail. (GH15 are you listening?)

gh15 knows it all,,,becuase he has done it all,,you fail to realize this coach

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Re: Tricep question for ADVANCED trainers
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2011, 09:01:35 PM »
Yes....of course he has. The judges I'm sure can verify that.