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How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« on: August 01, 2011, 11:03:04 PM »
Ok. So now that every sane informed individual knows Obama will lose in 2012, how bad will he lose? Is it going to be a landslide like we saw with Reagan beating Carter and Mondale?
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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 11:30:36 PM »
Dick Mrris says landslide.

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 05:20:34 AM »
Provides the gop runs at least a half ass campaign, I think he gets mauled.

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 03:00:34 PM »
Ok. So now that every sane informed individual knows Obama will lose in 2012, how bad will he lose? Is it going to be a landslide like we saw with Reagan beating Carter and Mondale?

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 04:45:57 PM »
Ok. So now that every sane informed individual knows Obama will lose in 2012, how bad will he lose? Is it going to be a landslide like we saw with Reagan beating Carter and Mondale?

I think he loses, but I doubt it's a Carter/Mondale-type beating.  He still has a lot of people drinking the Kool-Aid.  The man was looking the American people in the face today talking about raising taxes.  There are a lot of people who agree with him.   :-\

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 05:07:33 PM »
You guys think if they put up a Romney or Bachmann that he's going to lose? I find that hard to believe as much as I dislike Obama, it wont happen. We need someone with a history that backs up what they say today, someone who warned us of all the messes the country is in now. I wonder who that is?

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 05:10:26 PM »
You guys think if they put up a Romney or Bachmann that he's going to lose? I find that hard to believe as much as I dislike Obama, it wont happen. We need someone with a history that backs up what they say today, someone who warned us of all the messes the country is in now. I wonder who that is?


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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 05:12:39 PM »

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 05:14:43 PM »
You guys think if they put up a Romney or Bachmann that he's going to lose? I find that hard to believe as much as I dislike Obama, it wont happen. We need someone with a history that backs up what they say today, someone who warned us of all the messes the country is in now. I wonder who that is?

Absolutely.  Look how weak of a candidate McCain was, how unpopular Bush was, how the table was set for a blowout, and it really wasn't. 

If nothing else, look at how Obama has lost independents.  He cannot win without them. 

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 05:17:21 PM »
You guys think if they put up a Romney or Bachmann that he's going to lose? I find that hard to believe as much as I dislike Obama, it wont happen. We need someone with a history that backs up what they say today, someone who warned us of all the messes the country is in now. I wonder who that is?

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 12:01:16 AM »
You guys think if they put up a Romney or Bachmann that he's going to lose? I find that hard to believe as much as I dislike Obama, it wont happen. We need someone with a history that backs up what they say today, someone who warned us of all the messes the country is in now. I wonder who that is?

Ofcourse. He is already losing to Romney in battleground states that he won in 2008. Some of them by as many as 4 points!
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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 04:05:39 AM »
A convict on death row would be better for the nation than Obama. 

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 05:47:24 AM »
Quinnipiac poll: Obama in Pennsylvania virtual tie with … Rick Santorum?
Hotair ^ | 08/02/2011 | Ed Morrissey





Bad news comes out of the must-carry state of Pennsylvania today for Barack Obama and his re-election hopes. Not only has Obama fallen far below water in his approval rating in the latest Quinnipiac poll, he has now dropped into a tie against a potential Republican nominee. No, this isn’t a generic Republican, either:

The protracted slugfest over raising the national debt limit leaves President Barack Obama with a 54 – 43 percent disapproval among Pennsylvania voters, but he scores better than Republicans or Democrats in Congress, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. …

Pennsylvania voters say 52 – 42 percent that Obama does not deserve to be reelected. Matching the president against possible Republican challengers shows:

•Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 44 percent to Obama’s 42 percent;
•Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum with 43 percent to Obama’s 45 percent;
•Obama leads Minnesota U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann 47 – 39 percent;
•Obama tops Texas Gov. Rick Perry 45 – 39 percent.
The internals of the poll look even worse for Obama. The overall deserves-re-election number is 42/52, a very bad number in Democrat-heavy Pennsylvania, where Democrats account for half of all registered voters. Independents split almost exactly the same at 42/51, and the only region in which Obama has a majority for re-election is Philadelphia. Even among union households, which should be Obama’s bread and butter, he only gets a narrow 48/45 split, roughly a virtual tie.

The head-to-head numbers are simply embarrassing for a Democratic President in Pennsylvania, especially against a former Keystone State Senator who got blown out in his last statewide election. There is another reason to worry, too, in that series. Obama doesn’t get to 50% against any Republican in head-to-head matchups, usually a big red flag for incumbents. The best he does is 47% against Michele Bachmann.

If Obama is doing this badly in Pennsylvania, it strongly suggests a big opening in the Rust Belt for Republicans next year. Democrats in Michigan have a similar registration advantage, but not in Ohio, Indiana, or even Wisconsin, which have similar demographics as Pennsylvania and all of which Obama carried in 2008. Obama has a big, big problem in this region, and losing Pennsylvania might just be the beginning of his woes.



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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 10:05:39 AM »
Quinnipiac poll: Obama in Pennsylvania virtual tie with … Rick Santorum?
Hotair ^ | 08/02/2011 | Ed Morrissey





Bad news comes out of the must-carry state of Pennsylvania today for Barack Obama and his re-election hopes. Not only has Obama fallen far below water in his approval rating in the latest Quinnipiac poll, he has now dropped into a tie against a potential Republican nominee. No, this isn’t a generic Republican, either:

The protracted slugfest over raising the national debt limit leaves President Barack Obama with a 54 – 43 percent disapproval among Pennsylvania voters, but he scores better than Republicans or Democrats in Congress, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. …

Pennsylvania voters say 52 – 42 percent that Obama does not deserve to be reelected. Matching the president against possible Republican challengers shows:

•Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 44 percent to Obama’s 42 percent;
•Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum with 43 percent to Obama’s 45 percent;
•Obama leads Minnesota U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann 47 – 39 percent;
•Obama tops Texas Gov. Rick Perry 45 – 39 percent.
The internals of the poll look even worse for Obama. The overall deserves-re-election number is 42/52, a very bad number in Democrat-heavy Pennsylvania, where Democrats account for half of all registered voters. Independents split almost exactly the same at 42/51, and the only region in which Obama has a majority for re-election is Philadelphia. Even among union households, which should be Obama’s bread and butter, he only gets a narrow 48/45 split, roughly a virtual tie.

The head-to-head numbers are simply embarrassing for a Democratic President in Pennsylvania, especially against a former Keystone State Senator who got blown out in his last statewide election. There is another reason to worry, too, in that series. Obama doesn’t get to 50% against any Republican in head-to-head matchups, usually a big red flag for incumbents. The best he does is 47% against Michele Bachmann.

If Obama is doing this badly in Pennsylvania, it strongly suggests a big opening in the Rust Belt for Republicans next year. Democrats in Michigan have a similar registration advantage, but not in Ohio, Indiana, or even Wisconsin, which have similar demographics as Pennsylvania and all of which Obama carried in 2008. Obama has a big, big problem in this region, and losing Pennsylvania might just be the beginning of his woes.



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Liberals like to cite the fact that Obama is up, in head-to-head matches against some of the GOP hopefuls. But don't forget what Morris said. There are the "undecideds", and historically at least 80% of those folks go for the challenger. So, if Obama leads Bachmann 47-39, that's 86% (meaning that 14% are undecided). Therefore if 80% of those go for Bachmann, it would put her up 51-49.

Apply it to Perry, who ain't even running (yet), and he goes up 52-48

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 10:08:04 AM »
I dont care who runs, I am everyone I know will spend every waking moment trying to oust this communist destroyer and traitor. 

And for for those who plan to vote for this disgusting, disgraceful, dishonest, dirty, and deranged
neo-marxist sleeper cell - FUCK YOU AND DROP DEAD.   

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2011, 10:38:19 AM »
I dont care who runs, I am everyone I know will spend every waking moment trying to oust this communist destroyer and traitor. 

And for for those who plan to vote for this disgusting, disgraceful, dishonest, dirty, and deranged
neo-marxist sleeper cell - FUCK YOU AND DROP DEAD.   

One of these days, Baby Girl is going to make up her mind. I'm a little tired of the suspense stuff.

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Re: How Bad Will Obama lose in 2012?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2011, 11:02:51 AM »
How will the 12 million amnestied wetbacks affect thes?