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Re: THAILAND-thinking of going there?
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2011, 10:55:34 PM »
I'm English, I was living in Japan working on a manufacturing software project & they sent me here to work on the implementation. When that finished, I figured I'd stay for a vacation and one thing led to another and now it's 14 years later. Finding work is hard here but if you have contacts back home, it's not that hard to take advantage of the labor rates here and make yourself a niche. Of course a lot of people come here and think that becoming a bar owner/pimp is a niche.

The hardest thing here is keeping your shit together. There is no-one here to tell you to slow down, no-one holding you back. You can find someone to party with every day. Whetever your vice, you will find it here and in quantity. As such, a lot of people fall off the rails.

Still - if you keep things in perspective, earn a good wage, don't get fucked up daily, then it's a nice place to live. Tropical beaches are well within reach, foods great, beers cold. The locals love kids, so it's a good place to raise a family. I think part of the attraction is living in a country with culture that is so different from your own. I still shake my head at some of the things I see on the streets of Bangkok. Perhaps the best thing about working with the locals here is they don't whine like English people do, they are an easy going lot.

You also need to have a pretty god bullshit detector here because there's a scam round every corner. Getting scammed a few times certainly hones that talent.

This is a Bangkok perspective, I imagine someone living in Pattaya will have a very different perspective. In either place, you will become jaded over time but that's not such a bad thing.

As this is a BB forum I take it you are into BB  ;D - So the appeal of Thailand to BB's (mostly) is steroids and other drugs that can be got quite easily.

In your opinion and this would only be a guess how many GB pounds would you think a BB would need to live in Thailand say for a year doing the basic every day living like accomadtion,food,gym,drugs (not sure if you are into that side of things :D) but could one go to thailand with 5000 GB pounds and have no problems living a full on BB lifestyle with no worries at all?

Bearing in mind Dball can be brought for 1 cent per tab aussie $ - so drugs are cheap there.

Obviously one would look for work whilst there but would 5k gbp see you through for a year ? or higher in your guess ?

Also I read that things like protein powders are hard to get because of laws - you can buy them but there are quite pricey - is that true ?

Hopefully not to weird questions..

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Re: THAILAND-thinking of going there?
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2011, 03:41:09 AM »
Into bodybuilding? Naaa - I'm only here for the thongs...

Protein powder is very expensive here - something about the FDA having to approve suppliers but BBqd chicken is sold on the street 24x7 and costs nothing.

I do lift and I have cycled (years ago) and I know a few BBers here who come to do cycles or buy drugs. Bangkok is out of the question if you want to keep it cheap. For Pattaya:

Accomodation:
$120 for a room with a fan for 1 month (fkin miserable) - does have a stolen cable connection if you bring  a TV
$500 for a NICE 1 bed appartment (serviced) with TV & aircon for 1 month.

Food
You'd be pushing it to do it on $10  a day but I think it could be done. Up to $30 a day if you want to really go for it - this is all supermarket or street food though. Food prices have been rising a lot lately here and the doll ar has been dropping. When I got here it was $1 = 45 baht. Now it's $1 = 29.5 Baht. Makes a huge difference.

Gyms
next to nothing - $3 a day if you pay by the day. I currently pay $20/month in BKK and have access to many different locations.

Drugs 5k Gbp would have you living a pretty meagre existence. By
Well - drugs are cheap enough but I'd presume you don't want to be on Dbol or Abombs for a year. Haven't brought Test e for years but I think it was $60 for 20 amps. Winny about $15 for 3 amps. Deca about $5 an amp - this is way back though I have no idea what prices are now. GH ain't cheap and from what I hear it's mostly bunk.

In my opinion - 5k GBP would leave you leading a pretty dismal existence, although if you find other people in the same position (no doubt they are here), then it wouldn't be so bad. By necessity ($$$) you'd need to be in Pattaya. What would make things worse is the fact you'd have an extremely high sex drive and be in a city with 50,000 or more hookers walking around in slutwear. Look at a minimum of $30 a night for a tart and many are demanding double and triple that and getting it. Still - you don't have to pay for it, you could meet a nice girl there. Some gals like the muscleheads and will fuck them for free.

Before I was married, I had gals who'd come to me on their days off free of charge. Still - that will not stop you paying for it on the days you don't see her - or even the HOURS you don't see her. You can wander out of your place, down soi 6, have a blow job and be back to here in 30 mins. What are the chances that you will NOT do this several days a week when on test? What about the thought of having 2 very beautiful girls sitting with you in a huge bath doing all sorts to you and each other before moving to the bed? Got $150 to blow on that? Could you avoid it?

I reckon 20k GBP/30k USD would be minimum before I'd even consider it.

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« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2011, 03:44:23 AM »
Awesome - thanks mate  8)

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« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2011, 03:47:43 AM »
we as tall blonde westerners are welcomed in this countries as gods by these women. i think even the most expensive whores do it for free when we come.

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« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2011, 08:15:29 AM »
we as tall blonde westerners are welcomed in this countries as gods by these women. i think even the most expensive whores do it for free when we come.


*cough, cough*
they're good at pretend

*cough cough*
they're actually experts at pretend

*cough, cough*
they're devoted if you take them and their family out of poverty

spoken just like dumbass north american or euro.  


Thought they were waiting for him off the plane in Brasil which is common dumbass thought by the west, but gracie will tell you otherwise.


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« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2011, 08:27:53 AM »
where are you talking about? these girls are mad of men from the civilised world. have you seen how their own men look like? totally inferior.

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« Reply #81 on: August 07, 2011, 09:08:38 AM »
where are you talking about? these girls are mad of men from the civilised world. have you seen how their own men look like? totally inferior.

 ::)

that's why you hide the keys to the love motel, or they leave door open for their boyfriend to jack you.

sorry, there are a lot of playas on this board with jordan tank tops and funny shoes, so i'm over my head.

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« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2011, 10:14:56 AM »
youre probably a bittered thai "man" i understand that

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« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2011, 10:24:57 AM »
where are you talking about? these girls are mad of men from the civilised world. have you seen how their own men look like? totally inferior.

Thai women love Thai men. This probably explains why Thailand isn't actually empty  ::)

Most Thai hookers in Pattaya have Thai boyfriends or husbands. When I say most, I mean - like 90-95%.

Most western guys in Pattaya think all the Thai hookers are single and are in need of rescue.

Western men think Thai hookers were forced into the game. Nothing could be further from the truth. Fact is, it is economically more viable to sell pussy than actually work. If the selling of pussy were globally acceptable, then for sure it would not just be the Thai gals who are too lazy to get degrees when 10 minutes a day on your back pays more.

The goal of a Thai hooker is to have a Western man come on holiday, fuck her a few times and then decide she needs to be rescued. He will leave his 2 week holiday with a promise to pay her a monthly salary so that she stops selling her pu$$y because "that ain't right". He is her Knight in white shining armour (and a few Trojans no doubt).

This monthly salary is thankfully received every month by the hooker who continues hooking & looking for the next idiot. The optimal situation is to not have multiple idiots come on holiday at the same time. If that happens, then the lower paying idiot is fed an excuse (aka 'sick buffalo story') as to why she can't see him. Many of these guys will still keep up the payments even when this happens.

I know one gal who was getting $12k US a month from guys overseas and she STILL worked the bars. Her Thai husband was not happy - but she wore the trousers. Now it's 5 years on her and Thai hubby  have a beautiful daughter, nice new car, nice house and a restaurant - all paid for by dickheads from the West intent on rescuing girls from 'the game'.


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« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2011, 10:44:18 AM »
offcourse they have only thai men, no good looking westerner wants a thai woman. usually the fat old creepy guys walking around with one.

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Re: THAILAND-thinking of going there?
« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2011, 10:46:44 AM »
How much are blowjobs?

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« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2011, 10:54:18 AM »
offcourse they have only thai men, no good looking westerner wants a thai woman. usually the fat old creepy guys walking around with one.

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« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2011, 10:56:22 AM »
ok there are some exceptions.

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« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2011, 11:17:23 AM »
How much are blowjobs?

Ask Mars, he's already shown his expert knowledge on the country and its culture  ;D

And he sucks cock.

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« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2011, 11:31:02 AM »

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« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2011, 11:42:55 AM »
where are you talking about? these girls are mad of men from the civilised world. have you seen how their own men look like? totally inferior.
Please tell me your joking, right, I thought his myth died ages ago, it probably is the oppisite, they probably hate westerners.

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« Reply #91 on: August 07, 2011, 11:46:36 AM »
i was talking about handsome young westerners

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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2011, 01:49:19 PM »
i was talking about handsome young westerners

Some of the best paying mongers are italian guys like...



and you're in disneyland if you think not.

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« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2011, 08:28:41 PM »


Thai chick on the left, sister on the right...


Same Thai chick playing with blind children in an orphanage - if that doesn't make you 'decent' - nothing does  ;)

Not seeing it, your sister looks better.

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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2011, 11:50:42 PM »
Not seeing it, your sister looks better.

Well - not to me, obviously....

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« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2011, 12:03:57 AM »
Thai women love Thai men. This probably explains why Thailand isn't actually empty  ::)

Most Thai hookers in Pattaya have Thai boyfriends or husbands. When I say most, I mean - like 90-95%.

Most western guys in Pattaya think all the Thai hookers are single and are in need of rescue.

Western men think Thai hookers were forced into the game. Nothing could be further from the truth. Fact is, it is economically more viable to sell pussy than actually work. If the selling of pussy were globally acceptable, then for sure it would not just be the Thai gals who are too lazy to get degrees when 10 minutes a day on your back pays more.

The goal of a Thai hooker is to have a Western man come on holiday, fuck her a few times and then decide she needs to be rescued. He will leave his 2 week holiday with a promise to pay her a monthly salary so that she stops selling her pu$$y because "that ain't right". He is her Knight in white shining armour (and a few Trojans no doubt).

This monthly salary is thankfully received every month by the hooker who continues hooking & looking for the next idiot. The optimal situation is to not have multiple idiots come on holiday at the same time. If that happens, then the lower paying idiot is fed an excuse (aka 'sick buffalo story') as to why she can't see him. Many of these guys will still keep up the payments even when this happens.

I know one gal who was getting $12k US a month from guys overseas and she STILL worked the bars. Her Thai husband was not happy - but she wore the trousers. Now it's 5 years on her and Thai hubby  have a beautiful daughter, nice new car, nice house and a restaurant - all paid for by dickheads from the West intent on rescuing girls from 'the game'.


It's all a game--scam, and the fuckers who do that "saving" shit, deserved to be scammed

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« Reply #96 on: August 08, 2011, 12:11:53 AM »
::)



Dennis lucked up big time with Sin..That is a good looking woman..


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« Reply #97 on: August 08, 2011, 02:44:29 AM »
Dennis lucked up big time with Sin..That is a good looking woman..



you have guys on here who visit red light districts and that's it.  that's their experience of a country.  obviously, sin was a regular working girl when dennis met her, and i'm sure thailand has plenty of SOLID marriageable women like her.   agreed, she's a nice steal for DJ.   having worked in brasil, i can tell you that ex-pats, temp visas, npo workers, etc hide from gringo tail chasers.  they make everyone look bad, and sometimes the natives don't distinguish.  but of course, gracie, as usual, will tell you different to sell you a house without the deeds, but it's the only way he knows how to fly. 

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« Reply #98 on: August 08, 2011, 08:34:31 AM »
you have guys on here who visit red light districts and that's it.  that's their experience of a country.  obviously, sin was a regular working girl when dennis met her, and i'm sure thailand has plenty of SOLID marriageable women like her.   agreed, she's a nice steal for DJ.   having worked in brasil, i can tell you that ex-pats, temp visas, npo workers, etc hide from gringo tail chasers.  they make everyone look bad, and sometimes the natives don't distinguish.  but of course, gracie, as usual, will tell you different to sell you a house without the deeds, but it's the only way he knows how to fly. 

I don't think things are so cut & dried to be honest.

Plenty of expats take the odd lunchtime/afternoon soujourn for a soapy massage or whatever tickles their fancy - just in a discreet location like this : http://www.poseidon2000.com/ Certainly most of the customers in this place are rich Thai men.  Or a slightly less upmarket place, where you'll see mostly Japanese and Westerners : http://www.thonglormassage.com/index1.html These are expats, professional positions with wives and families that take a time-out to get serviced by a professional.

Being an expat here, you are often expected to take guests to the go-go bars. They ask you to. It's one of the first things they'll ask after dinner. I have taken numerous senior execs to go-go bars. In my experience, I have yet to meet a married man that came out here on business and didn't fuck a tart. Not one in 14 years.

The Japenese and Koreans have infiltrated the 'western' go-go scene now, so in any of the bars, you can expect half or more Asian guys and the girls like them much more than westerners. They are lovingly referred to as "4,4,4" - 4 inches, 4 minutes, 4,000 Baht. The gringo tail chaser is a dying breed and the Japanese are now much more open about their mongering.

The Japanese have their own red light district, where Westerners are generally not allowed to go. It is the Japenese that are the biggest mongers. They have just tended in the past to keep to their own areas but are now branching out to places like Bacarra, where the girls dance on the glass floor/ceiling upstairs with no knickers on. I get a stiff neck thinking about the place.

So - in my opinion, if you are in regular business (not embassy related) and you regularly recieve foreign visitors, then you will not really be able to avoid the scene entirely. Certainly if you have Japenese guests, these nights out will help seal the deal.

It cannot be overstated how much prostitution is responsible for factories and other business being located in Thailand.  A Japanese decision maker, when faced with Vietnam, Laos or Thailand will ALWAYS choose Thailand because of what he can do there on subsequent business trips.

It is for this reason that (somewhat jaded) expats like myself call Thailand "The Pussy Economy". I am not saying this is right. It is just what it is.

As for myself - I don't go to go-go bars unlesss I am escorting someone around the places. I find them tedious in the extreme but of course I got here in my mid-20's and did more than my fair share so I can't claim to be totally virtuous or anything like that.

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« Reply #99 on: August 08, 2011, 08:49:50 AM »
I don't think things are so cut & dried to be honest.

Plenty of expats take the odd lunchtime/afternoon soujourn for a soapy massage or whatever tickles their fancy - just in a discreet location like this : http://www.poseidon2000.com/ Certainly most of the customers in this place are rich Thai men.  Or a slightly less upmarket place, where you'll see mostly Japanese and Westerners : http://www.thonglormassage.com/index1.html These are expats, professional positions with wives and families that take a time-out to get serviced by a professional.

Being an expat here, you are often expected to take guests to the go-go bars. They ask you to. It's one of the first things they'll ask after dinner. I have taken numerous senior execs to go-go bars. In my experience, I have yet to meet a married man that came out here on business and didn't fuck a tart. Not one in 14 years.

The Japenese and Koreans have infiltrated the 'western' go-go scene now, so in any of the bars, you can expect half or more Asian guys and the girls like them much more than westerners. They are lovingly referred to as "4,4,4" - 4 inches, 4 minutes, 4,000 Baht. The gringo tail chaser is a dying breed and the Japanese are now much more open about their mongering.

The Japanese have their own red light district, where Westerners are generally not allowed to go. It is the Japenese that are the biggest mongers. They have just tended in the past to keep to their own areas but are now branching out to places like Bacarra, where the girls dance on the glass floor/ceiling upstairs with no knickers on. I get a stiff neck thinking about the place.

So - in my opinion, if you are in regular business (not embassy related) and you regularly recieve foreign visitors, then you will not really be able to avoid the scene entirely. Certainly if you have Japenese guests, these nights out will help seal the deal.

It cannot be overstated how much prostitution is responsible for factories and other business being located in Thailand.  A Japanese decision maker, when faced with Vietnam, Laos or Thailand will ALWAYS choose Thailand because of what he can do there on subsequent business trips.

It is for this reason that (somewhat jaded) expats like myself call Thailand "The Pussy Economy". I am not saying this is right. It is just what it is.

As for myself - I don't go to go-go bars unlesss I am escorting someone around the places. I find them tedious in the extreme but of course I got here in my mid-20's and did more than my fair share so I can't claim to be totally virtuous or anything like that.

i've never questioned the discreteness of ex-pats and the local mongers, even traveling businessmen. but when you are in an elevator with a bunch of assclowns hopping up "what they got" and "for how much" in a public location, it casts an ugly shadow on you, especially if you are in a place working and are a foreigner.  no matter how long you are there, you will always be a foreigner.   

i'm doing my own NPO.  what type of services are needed in Thailand and surrounding poor regions?  are you connected to any orgs in anyway?