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Great Job
« on: August 04, 2011, 08:30:36 AM »
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 08:34:11 AM »
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 08:36:13 AM »
???

Just means we're losing money.....daily.

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 08:43:53 AM »
Just means we've been losing losing money.....for the last few years.
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 08:48:31 AM »
Another horror show today...Dow Jones dropping 240 points....FVcking Nightmare


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Re: Great Job
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 08:49:31 AM »
A good thing you people got such a great president !

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 08:53:13 AM »
Just means we're losing money.....daily.

What's new?

US credit rating downgraded

Aug 3rd 2011, 9:04 by Buttonwood

THE Western ratings agencies may not have downgraded the US yet but that hasn't stopped Dagong, China's rating agency, from doing the deed. The agency already rated the US as less than AAA. But today, it has pushed the rating down from A+ to A, and placed the rating on negative watch (indicating the potential for a further cut).

The agency, which seems to have some shaky translation software, cites four reasons for the decision on its website. First:

    at this crucial juncture, neither the Democratic Party nor Republican Party has shown any consideration for the general interest in order to argue for their own partisan interest; they had a hard time making the correct choice in a timely manner leaving the world in terror, which highlights the negative role of the US political system on an economic basis. This incident will definitely exert its continuous impact on investors’ confidence in US Treasury bonds, affecting the stability of the US debt income.

Second,

    the fact that the US Congress approves the raising of the debt limit further indicates that the multiple factors affecting the national debt service capability will not change positively in a considerable long term, and that no substantial change will occur to the severe imbalance between the real wealth creation capability and huge national consumption.

Third,

    The pace of the US deficit cut is far lower than that of new debt growth and the fiscal policy of revenues falling short of expenditures will surely keep pushing the US government debt to a higher level. Dagong predicts that the deficit level of the US government will remain moderately high in the future and the size of federal debt will exceed the GDP by the end of 2012.

Finally, Dagong says that

    the US Congress has not come up with a positive resolution on how to address the problem of insufficient driving forces for national economic growth, which indicates that the US government cannot resolve the fundamental influence of low economic growth, high deficit and increasingly higher debt to the debt service capability through increasing real wealth creation, with the declining national solvency irreversible. It is natural that QE3 monetary policy will be enabled for the next step, which will throw the world economy into an overall crisis; the status of US dollar will be essentially shaken in this process.

Of course, there is a certain amount of political posturing and wish fulfilment in these opinions. Nevertheless, China does own a lot of Treasury bonds so its opinion does matter. And other big investors are critical too, notably Bill Gross of Pimco who says that

    even though the US has managed to avert a debt crisis and perhaps a ratings downgrade, there remains a stain on our reputation, a scarlet A for budgetary abuse that will not disappear.

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 08:54:09 AM »
Why would markets react any different?

USA situation still remains unclear.... China downgraded US just a while back... who's gonna lend you the money?
Debt limit raised means just possibility to borrow more - not that anybody is willing to lend it. Fed probably prints it out yes but.. :-\
Plus... how are you going to start surviving on your own again, without constantly just living for debt? I've not heard any plans on this  ???

Many Euro-countries are just as catastrophic situation than you are.


Why would markets rally?

Being honest here, you have no clue how to make your country stand on its own again. That's the problem.







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Re: Great Job
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 08:56:29 AM »
Bay no likey!  >:(

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 09:12:57 AM »
Don't worry about the economy and Unemployment its


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Re: Great Job
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 09:15:32 AM »
^^^^^POS
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 09:24:46 AM »
Why are investors in a tizzy on Thursday? Corporate earnings were good and the U.S. Labor Department reported decent weekly initial jobless claims, so you can’t find blame there.

Instead, the selloff seems to be inspired by developments in Europe, where the central bank hit the panic button on Thursday, halting its rate hike campaign and employing a couple of anticrisis measures to prevent the debt crisis from spilling into Italy and Spain.

Those two heavily indebted countries have seen the yields on their government bonds spike in recent days, raising borrowing costs, creating difficulties at some banks and of course instilling concern among investors that the recent bailout of Greece had done little to contain a crisis that has weighed on global markets for well over a year.

On Thursday, the ECB resumed bond purchases of distressed euro-area bonds in an effort to bring yields back down, for the first time in five months. It also announced a plant to lend banks unlimited amounts of money to provide a jolt of liquidity to the market. This decision came a month ahead of a scheduled decision on the policy, underlining the central bank’s haste to do something to soothe rattled markets.

The moves, however, appear to have had the opposite effect, especially with Switzerland and Japan making dramatic moves to lower the value of their respective currencies in response to the latest financial jitters and speculation among some observers that the U.S. Federal Reserve is about to provide another round of stimulus to the faltering U.S. economic recovery.

yep Obama's fault right  ::)
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 09:34:15 AM »
All of his fault no, could he have prevented this, yes. Does he want too? No.

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 09:52:54 AM »
All of his fault no, could he have prevented this, yes. Does he want too? No.
Yeah, that's right. POTUS wants the country to fail. It's a wonder you can contemplate the challenges issued by stairs, paper bags and parking meters. 

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 09:56:42 AM »
All of his fault no, could he have prevented this, yes. Does he want too? No.

Oh right because when the market rallies, and it will, it will then be because of something he did right?  I look forward to your post on that day very soon.   

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2011, 09:57:22 AM »
Don't worry about the economy and Unemployment its

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2011, 10:00:42 AM »
I understand G&O will get some off topic threads really not pertaining to bodybuilding.....celebri ties...would you hit it....etc.

But this is ridiculous. And boring.

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2011, 10:01:48 AM »
I understand G&O will get some off topic threads really not pertaining to bodybuilding.....celebri ties...would you hit it....etc.

But this is ridiculous. And boring.

STFU

Who gave you right to speak?                Yep, thought that... Get back in kitchen then.

If you were real woman, you would know to stay out of politics.

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2011, 10:04:59 AM »
Can't blame obama on this shit.

There are too many reasons for this crazy debt...starting with the fucking wars where we need to "liberate" middle easterners and impose our ideology of democracy and liberty!

Fucking news flash!!! Those assholes that live in the sand box don't want to adopt our ways! Let them live like 3rd world fucks and leave them alone...

...let's take their oil first!

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2011, 10:07:14 AM »
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2011, 10:08:18 AM »
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LOL  ;D

I'm just sick of that gimmick trying to appear as a woman here  >:(

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2011, 10:10:57 AM »
STFU

Who gave you right to speak?                Yep, thought that... Get back in kitchen then.

If you were real woman, you would know to stay out of politics.
How IS the third grade these days?
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Re: Great Job
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2011, 10:14:51 AM »
How IS the third grade these days?

What do you mean?

In school?
They don't teach that at third grade... you barely hear about these facts until political history classes at the uni   ::)

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2011, 10:16:18 AM »
Oh right because when the market rallies, and it will, it will then be because of something he did right?  I look forward to your post on that day very soon.   



Rally? Are you kidding? It's made a modest rebound (like it always does when it's down) in the almost 3 years he's been in office. It should be consistently rising but instead it's lost a 1000 in a week. Yes....raise the debt ceiling more, fuck with our credit ratings. Countries are laughing at us.  

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Re: Great Job
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2011, 10:18:57 AM »
A good thing you people got such a great president !
not for nothing but he walked into the u.s. debt and the war debt no one could get us outa that no one.The only thing he should have done but didnt was pass a law that all banks had to give all mortgage holders 3% loan mods on there home and stop the foreclosures.
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