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50 mpg car for 6k in 90s were are they now? dems?
« Reply #475 on: November 26, 2012, 10:56:01 PM »
Getting 50 MPG out of a gallon of gas has gotten a lot more expensive over the past 20-something years.

Back in 1990, it only cost $5,995 – $10,614 in corrected-for-2012 Fed Funny Money. That sum would buy you a new Geo Metro XFi hatchback, a car capable of 53 city, 58 highway (43 city/52 highway using the EPA”s latest “adjusted” standards).
 
See here, if you don’t believe me.
 
Today, the only new car that can match that mileage is a Toyota Prius hybrid – the least expensive version of which – the 2013 Prius C – has a sticker price of $18,950 in current Fed Funny Money. So, you’ll pay nearly twice as much to go about as far on a gallon of gas. (Actually, more than that, because it takes about three times the quantity of Fed Funny Money to buy a gallon today vs. back in 1990.)
 
If Uncle really gave a damn about us – as opposed to increasing his power over us -  don’t you think he’d encourage more cars like the Metro? Wouldn’t they “reduce our dependence on foreign oil”? Wouldn’t they contribute less to “global warming” by dint of converting less gasoline into carbon dioxide?
 
Well?
 
In fact, Uncle has done everything conceivable to take such cars off the road. To make them an impossibility. He has  legislated – and regulated – them out of existence. There is nothing comparable to the Metro available new today, nor has there been for at least a decade. Why? Did affordable economical cars (as distinct from today’s hybrid cars) suddenly become unsaleable? Or did government make them impossible to sell?
 
Consider:
 
For the entire history of the automobile, from the Model T to the modern era, there were always cheap little cars that got great gas mileage (in relative and real terms). In the deco era of the roaring ’20s, Blue Light Special Model Ts mingled with Cords and Auburns. In the ’50s, Power Pack dual quad 283 Bel Airs and monstrous Cadillacs shared the road with Nash Metropolitans. In the ’60s, there were agile little Corvairs among the mighty muscle cars – and by the ’70s, Beetles (and Datsun B210s and Civic CVCCs) were literally everywhere.
 
As recently as the ’90s, cars like the Metro abounded. There was the Honda Civic CRX – capable of 52 MPG on the highway (47 MPG, adjusted by the EPA to reflect current measuring methods). The 43 MPG Ford Festiva. The 45 MPG Mercury Lynx. There were literally dozens of them, all makes and models.
 
Now, they’re all gone.
 
And the only way to save money on gas is to spend a lot of it on a new hybrid.
 
A hybrid is expensive because it has to be. You’re paying for two powertrains instead of just the one. A normal gas engine to keep the batteries topped off, plus electric motors and all the stuff associated with their operation. Of course this results in a car that is also heavy as well as expensive. The Prius C – lightest of all current hybrids – weighs 2,500 lbs. The 1990 Geo Metro weighed 1,620 lbs. It’s an inescapable law of physics that you need more and more power to move more and more mass. Thus, the “efficient” Prius C is propelled by a 1.5 liter four cylinder engine – while the almost 1,000 lbs. lighter Metro was able to get around (and get around just as quickly) with a three cylinder, 1.0 liter engine.

cont... http://ericpetersautos.com/2012/10/30/50-mpg-then-and-now/

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #476 on: November 27, 2012, 03:29:21 AM »
Come and take them! 


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Re: 50 mpg car for 6k in 90s were are they now? dems?
« Reply #477 on: November 27, 2012, 03:46:33 AM »
"who killed the electric car?"

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #478 on: November 27, 2012, 03:48:18 AM »
Come and take them! 


Oh we're coming for them...  You have no right buddy!

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #479 on: November 27, 2012, 04:16:51 AM »
Oh we're coming for them...  You have no right buddy!

Bring your whole crew. 

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #480 on: November 27, 2012, 04:21:18 AM »
Bring your whole crew. 
You will be deleted.

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #481 on: November 27, 2012, 04:30:52 AM »
You will be deleted.

People that come after me looking for trouble will find it.   

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #482 on: November 27, 2012, 04:37:25 AM »
People that come after me looking for trouble will find it.   
calm down virgin; I was joking.  I'm on the same page lol...

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #483 on: November 27, 2012, 04:48:24 AM »
calm down virgin; I was joking.  I'm on the same page lol...

He he, I'm no virgin.  I've got so many STD's half of them don't even have names yet.

This just happens to be an issue about which I'm dead serious.  You'll have to forgive me for not recognizing that you are a supporter of liberty, Hugo Chavez.   :D   

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #484 on: November 27, 2012, 05:01:04 AM »
How are they going to come?  In the middle of the night?  Black outfits?  By helicopters?

Never mind your little failure Mitt was more opposed to guns than any prior candidate.  Obama has been nothing but gun friendly.

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #485 on: November 27, 2012, 05:01:39 AM »
He he, I'm no virgin.  I've got so many STD's half of them don't even have names yet.

This just happens to be an issue about which I'm dead serious.  You'll have to forgive me for not recognizing that you are a supporter of liberty, Hugo Chavez.   :D    
Don't worry, I'm taking a guess that I was dead serious about this issue when you were getting your diapers changed.  Forgive me for thinking you are a virgin.  I sometimes make that mistake when people start braging about their 9 inch cocks and mistaking normal shaved pussies for a penoris on the board. ;)

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #486 on: November 27, 2012, 05:17:24 AM »
Don't worry, I'm taking a guess that I was dead serious about this issue when you were getting your diapers changed.  Forgive me for thinking you are a virgin.  I sometimes make that mistake when people start braging about their 9 inch cocks and mistaking normal shaved pussies for a penoris on the board. ;)

I see you know my work, lol.  I was telling the truth about my cock though.  The size not the STDs.  It's a problem more than a positive.  It's a grower not a shower too so it sneaks up on bitches.  Regarding the penoris, the photo could have just been a bad angle but I have some reservations about it.       

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #487 on: November 27, 2012, 05:21:33 AM »
How are they going to come?  In the middle of the night?  Black outfits?  By helicopters?

Never mind your little failure Mitt was more opposed to guns than any prior candidate.  Obama has been nothing but gun friendly.

They are cowards so they will probablly come at night dressed in black.  I'm talking about cop-erators not ninjas.  Ninjas would be more problematic but there are contingency plans.  I can't tell you any more, OPSEC.

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #488 on: November 27, 2012, 05:36:26 AM »
They are cowards so they will probablly come at night dressed in black.  I'm talking about cop-erators not ninjas.  Ninjas would be more problematic but there are contingency plans.  I can't tell you any more, OPSEC.
did you just start talking about ninjas and secrecy lol....  You're adding geek onto virgin?  ohhh. lol...  You're not going to last long here talking like this.

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #489 on: November 27, 2012, 05:47:30 AM »
did you just start talking about ninjas and secrecy lol....  You're adding geek onto virgin?  ohhh. lol...  You're not going to last long here talking like this.

I said too much.   I'm not paranoid, I just maintain a constant state of suspicious alertness.

Just because I'm sitting at my computer, naked, wearing a K-pot wrapped in tinfoil doesn't mean I'm a geek.

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #490 on: November 27, 2012, 06:08:06 AM »
I said too much. 
yup... that's usually it lol...

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #491 on: November 27, 2012, 07:00:07 AM »
I said too much.   I'm not paranoid, I just maintain a constant state of suspicious alertness.

Just because I'm sitting at my computer, naked, wearing a K-pot wrapped in tinfoil doesn't mean I'm a geek.

Wait are you Trekkie_Ogre on WoW???

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Re: ok democrats, now I'm pissed
« Reply #492 on: November 27, 2012, 08:40:04 AM »
Wait are you Trekkie_Ogre on WoW???

I'm not a gamer.  I'm just preparing for the apocalypse and the coming power grab by Chairman Obeezy. 



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a channel that has gone downhill since Olbermann left.
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http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/guest-on-fox-news-to-discuss-benghazi-attack-is-given-a-quick-exit/

msnbc is pro dem no doubt but they arent paid by them like most Fox crew.

Thats why they lied about poll numbers while msnbc called out Obama as a loser after the first debate.

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msnbc is pro dem no doubt but they arent paid by them like most Fox crew.

Thats why they lied about poll numbers while msnbc called out Obama as a loser after the first debate.

This is the truth.  MSNBC leans left politically but I've never felt that they outright lie like Fox.
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msnbc is pro dem no doubt but they arent paid by them like most Fox crew.

Thats why they lied about poll numbers while msnbc called out Obama as a loser after the first debate.

you can't be serious

you get that most people know obamas election was a fraud right?

everyone buy fox going nuts attacking republicans nonstop as do government schools and colleges

fox is one place there is a semi non democrat position and you say crayz stuff?

man all other networks nuthugg obama nonstop and then you have stewart sat night live colbert etc.....

jeesh

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This is the truth.  MSNBC leans left politically but I've never felt that they outright lie like Fox.

ever watch a chris matthews show?

might as well be obama sitting there