why nobody asked about training? how much do you squat, deadlift and press right now?
There are guys on prop and vins who destroy your physique which I know of. And no, no way in hell they are on your doses - hardly anyone can afford 3iu in my country. Most of 250lbs 8% 5'9'' guys I know have problems buying food and their test and deca...
You can fool yourself it's all drugs but there are still countries in the world when this game is about training. And it's just becouse ppl just can't afford what average Joe in USA can.