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Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« on: August 05, 2011, 06:53:17 AM »
Listen to liberal commentators opine about the recently enacted debt ceiling deal, and you might hear a common theme: Republicans took the government hostage.

In newspaper editorial pages and on cable TV programs, left leaning talkers — some of whom are the very same folks who criticized Sarah Palin’s rhetoric — have compared Tea Party lawmakers’ resistance to a quick debt ceiling increase to hostage-taking.

Thomas Roberts, host of MSNBC’s “The ED Show,” 8/3/11:

“Democrats are very worried their leaders will buckle to political hostage-taking of the Republicans just like they did with the debt ceiling earlier.”

Rev. Al Sharpton, host of “MSNBC Live,” 8/2/11:

“The possibility of a disastrous default was held hostage to the extreme conservative ideology of choking the federal government.”

Dylan Ratigan, host of MSNBC’s “The Dylan Ratigan Show,” 8/2/11:

“We are, in many ways, forced to lead our show with the political, pro-wrestling shenanigans with the threat of a hostage crisis that could bring our country to the brink.”

Eugene Robinson, Washington Post columnist and MSNBC political analyst on MSNBC’s “Rachel Maddow Show,” 8/1/11:

“One of the reasons the president was so set on getting something that at least takes us past the election is that they did see, Aha, gee, they are going to hold us hostage on the debt ceiling again in the next few months.”

Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 8/2/11:

“What we saw — what I saw, at least, was one guy with a knife and the other trying to avoid being cut. It was a thug attacking a victim. It was a mugging.”

Lawrence O’Donnell, host of MSNBC’s “The Last Word,” 8/1/11:

“The president’s instincts were good on how to handle the Somali pirates when they took hostages, but here the president knew he was dealing with a hostage-taking, and he never came out and said, ‘Ok, here are the limits.’”

Laura Flanders, host Grit TV on MSNBC’s “The ED Show,” 8/1/11:

“The problem we are facing is not a handful of Tea Party hostage-takers. The problem in the country is the headlock that a few corporate interests and some very wealthy elites have put on our revenues.”

Hilary Rosen, Democratic strategist, on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” 8/3/11:

“They took John Boehner hostage. They forced to do a plan that was unrealistic politically, and then the grown-ups in the Senate — Sen. Mitch McConnell and Sen. Harry Reid — had to kind of takeover and come up with a compromise and force it on the House.”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/03/hostage-metaphor-is-liberal-commentators-new-talking-point/


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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 06:54:49 AM »
So much for ending violent rhetoric after the Giffords' shooting.

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 06:58:40 AM »
Yeah, cause everything they were doing beforehand was so great. 

Whatever.

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »
I don't remember Republicans stating that Democrats took the government hostage when they pushed through a health reform that the majority of americans are against.

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 09:38:41 AM »
I don't remember Republicans stating that Democrats took the government hostage when they pushed through a health reform that the majority of americans are against.

Wasn't there some who spread fear about death panels?

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 09:51:47 AM »
Wasn't there some who spread fear about death panels?

Yeah, Palin.

Now, how is that representative of the ENTIRE PARTY? Because now, everywhere that you see a Democrat they are mentioning the same rhetorical word: HOSTAGE. This is a point of view endorsed by the Democratic Party itself. Palin's view was never supported by the Republican Party nor presented as a talking point.

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 02:52:16 PM »
Yeah, Palin.

Now, how is that representative of the ENTIRE PARTY? Because now, everywhere that you see a Democrat they are mentioning the same rhetorical word: HOSTAGE. This is a point of view endorsed by the Democratic Party itself. Palin's view was never supported by the Republican Party nor presented as a talking point.

I think for many, Palin is the symbol of the republican party. Besides Palin, I cannot think of another common name that many republicans would say could be the figurehead of their party. I'm talking about the average citizen, not someone who is constantly engaged. Which, if you want to say she isn't, then you have to be consistent and allow that Obama is not the symbol of the democratic party.

I disagree that "everywhere I see a democrat they are mentioning the word Hostage". And it's impossible to know whether Palin's view was endorsed by the republican party itself if by endorsed you mean the majority believed it. 99% of republicans could have believed the same thing, who knows? Could have been 1%. Same with "Hostage", we simply do not know. I think it was used as a talking point...otherwise I wouldn't have remembered it.

I understand your point, but I think for you to say that "death panel" and "hostage" are totally different, you have to paddle fast to attack the democrats while saving the republicans. I personally think both should not be used because it is loaded language appealing to emotion instead of reason.

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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 02:56:12 PM »
Which moron said this:

“I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting,” he said. “Most of us didn’t think that. What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming. And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done.”


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Re: Democrats' moronoic talking point:Reps taking gov't HOSTAGE
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-debt-deal-the-triumph-of-the-old-washington/2011/08/02/gIQARSFfqI_story_1.html

here's your answer

if the Senate Minority leader is going to admit that they they are hostage takers (aka - terrorists) then it seems only fair that we take him at his word.   Why would he lie about something so vile, especially when referring to himself and his fellow Republicans

It certainly seems stupid to criticize the Dems when Republicans refer to themselves as such