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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #100 on: August 06, 2011, 01:56:26 PM »


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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #101 on: August 06, 2011, 02:03:14 PM »
Land of the free debt, and now they're bitching which individual is responsible for that  ::)


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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #102 on: August 07, 2011, 10:25:48 PM »
yes population control is needed.

there just isn't enough earth to go around for too many people whether there is money or not in the end what matters is resources, once they're used up, that's it, no bail out or paying your way out.

I've probably eaten more calories in my first 25 years then I would need in my whole life to live. How many calories does the human body really need to survive? And we haven't even scratched the surface about how high we could build into the skies. I'm guessing a thousand calories a day would be plenty to survive in a lifetime. However I like TA's idea of people who decide not to have kids not paying taxes.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #103 on: August 07, 2011, 10:41:47 PM »
i like this idea... get a veasectory and you pay 5% taxes for life... hmmmm

Would never work... Does that mean the second your kid turns 18 and has his own job you can stop paying those taxes?

Negative.

Plus, it's paying it forward, as children you used the tax money of others to go to school or what have you at times, so now you're simply paying it back.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #104 on: August 07, 2011, 11:02:47 PM »
Plus, it's paying it forward, as children you used the tax money of others to go to school or what have you at times, so now you're simply paying it back.

The problem is you aren't just paying for your own kid, you're paying for everyone else.  This at the core of the problem with socialism and why it has NEVER worked throughout history.  History clearly defines and shows us time and time again that free markets and true capitilism is what allows innovation and frees the people from the chains of stifled growth that socialism promotes.

And don't even ramble on with the MIchael More rhetoric that capitlism is what caused these problems because America hasn't been a capitlistic country in decades. We're in a state of pure corporitism and fascism and have been for about 30 some odd years.  In a true capilist society the banks would have failed, the government would have never attempted to stimulate the economy (which it never should have to begin with) and the markets would have corrected themselves.  Instead we have massive government interference with the bailouts increasing our national debt beyond repayence along with intervention into the market with the stimuls which has done absolutely nothing to promote growth and not only delay but tremendously worsen the effect of market correction.

Hold on tight, this is just the beginning.  Things will be worse this week than last and will only get worse as the weeks go on.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #105 on: August 07, 2011, 11:18:22 PM »
The problem is you aren't just paying for your own kid, you're paying for everyone else.  This at the core of the problem with socialism and why it has NEVER worked throughout history.  History clearly defines and shows us time and time again that free markets and true capitilism is what allows innovation and frees the people from the chains of stifled growth that socialism promotes.

And don't even ramble on with the MIchael More rhetoric that capitlism is what caused these problems because America hasn't been a capitlistic country in decades. We're in a state of pure corporitism and fascism and have been for about 30 some odd years.  In a true capilist society the banks would have failed, the government would have never attempted to stimulate the economy (which it never should have to begin with) and the markets would have corrected themselves.  Instead we have massive government interference with the bailouts increasing our national debt beyond repayence along with intervention into the market with the stimuls which has done absolutely nothing to promote growth and not only delay but tremendously worsen the effect of market correction.

Hold on tight, this is just the beginning.  Things will be worse this week than last and will only get worse as the weeks go on.

What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #106 on: August 07, 2011, 11:24:42 PM »
What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?

I don't know but when it comes to education, people have been using "society" to pay for it for a long time.

School teachers have always been paid by the community... even in little house on the prairie days.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2011, 07:21:57 AM »
What kind of "history" does capitalism have? Honest question, whats the history of true capitalism?

You can't seriously ask this question can you?  The U.S. throughout the early 20th century was about as capitalistic as it comes when talking about free markets.  We flourished on all levels from manufacturing, education, to science and engineering.  Once the government began meddling in these areas through over regulation which caused exportation of American jobs to other countries as well as installing failed institutions such as the Department of Education which caused tremendous increases in tuition and a tremendous loss in quality we began to sink down the toilet.  We fell into corporatism where the government services the desires of their own bank accounts over the people.

People have this idea that they don't mind pitching in their fair share but that idea is fatally flawed when the people your pitching your money to put it in their own pockets.  You may think it's ok to spend someone else s money, but remember, the government is spending yours.  When has the government ever ran a successful program?  Medicare, medicaid, social security all the way down to cash for clunkers, all massive complete failures of epic proportions.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #108 on: August 08, 2011, 07:23:14 AM »
This is what happens when you overextend your borders and play world police. Like all other great empires.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2011, 07:33:27 AM »
This is what happens when you overextend your borders and play world police. Like all other great empires.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! We are the modern day Roman empire. People will look back at our crumbling senate hall and capital buildings (which look strikingly Greek/Roman) and say "America had a nice little run".

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #110 on: August 08, 2011, 07:57:30 AM »
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! We are the modern day Roman empire. People will look back at our crumbling senate hall and capital buildings (which look strikingly Greek/Roman) and say "America had a nice little run".

Don't insult the great Roman epoch by calling your short phase of immature self-importance an Empire.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #111 on: August 08, 2011, 08:07:42 AM »
f you do any research and know the facts its bush's fucked all policies are screwing us over with the massive spending. The thing is obama cant do nothing about a number of policies already in place by the previous president. Sure obama can make some changes but he cant do a whole lot. He doesnt know what to do really since he cant do nothing about the bush spending era that is still going on, a very weak president
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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #112 on: August 08, 2011, 08:13:56 AM »
f you do any research and know the facts its bush's fucked all policies are screwing us over with the massive spending. The thing is obama cant do nothing about a number of policies already in place by the previous president. Sure obama can make some changes but he cant do a whole lot. He doesnt know what to do really since he cant do nothing about the bush spending era that is still going on, a very weak president

FAIL 

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #113 on: August 08, 2011, 08:17:25 AM »


Obama expanded the wars and started new ones.   


Additionally, Military spending in one of the few things the federal govt is supposed to do.    The rest is mostly bullshit. 

LOL...

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #114 on: August 08, 2011, 08:19:54 AM »
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Daddywaddy used to be ripped, can't believe he's carrying a spare tire now.  Funny ass video though... ;D
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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #115 on: August 08, 2011, 08:20:42 AM »
LOL...

Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2011, 08:24:27 AM »
Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?
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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2011, 08:26:27 AM »
no

LMAO!

So what are we doing in lybia? 

And are those extra 30,000 troops in Afghanistan a mirage? 

LMAO - pure comedy from you.     

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2011, 08:28:28 AM »
Yes or no - did he expand Afghanistan and start a new war in Libyia?


No...in fact he cleared out most of the personnel from the Iraq war.  But there has not been a year in the history of the United States where we have not been involved in some international conflict.  
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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2011, 08:29:47 AM »

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #120 on: August 08, 2011, 08:31:28 AM »

No...in fact he cleared out most of the personnel from the Iraq war.  But there has not been a year in the history of the United States where we have not been involved in some international conflict.  


LMFAO!   Priceless.   

Really - just priceless.   Obama did not do shit about Iraq but follow the Bush timetable that was in place when he assumed office. 

And you are arguing he didnt expand Afghanistan?   Now you 95ers are just lying your asses off just to dick suck obama.

Lybia?  What are we doing there?   

 

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #122 on: August 08, 2011, 09:02:48 AM »


1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.

2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #123 on: August 08, 2011, 09:07:23 AM »
Actually, yes. But something was bound to give with all the spending.


I didn't hear you the first time...

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Re: US credit rating just got downgraded
« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2011, 09:07:51 AM »
1. The first priority of a President is to protect the country.

2. Only someone who believes that we can reason and make nice nice with the very people who want to destroy us on a daily basis see's a problem with this chart.

YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT