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Dumb asses, where is Al, where is Jesse, and where are these youths parents?...Makes no damn sense.
Maybe they need a beat and release program....

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Its times like these where I really wish I could pull out a Gatling gun and just start mowing the garbage down. I wouldn't necessarily want to kill, but maiming is fair play considering you, (or your family), might get stomped to death. Only in my dreams unfortunately. Anyway, I wonder if someone did pull out a gun and start shooting an attacker(s)? Probably get killed by the rest of the crowd or the police after the bullets run out.

Only sane option is run the other way.


WEST ALLIS - Witnesses tell Newsradio 620 WTMJ and TODAY'S TMJ4 of a mob of young people attacking innocent fair-goers at the end of the opening night of State Fair, with some callers claiming a racially-charged scene.
 
Milwaukee Police confirmed there were assaults outside the fair.
 
Witnesses' accounts claim everything from dozens to hundreds of young black people beating white people as they left State Fair Thursday night.
 
Authorities have not given official estimates of the number of people involved in the attacks.
 
"It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people," said Norb Roffers of Wind Lake in an interview with Newsradio 620 WTMJ.  He left the State Fair Entrance near the corner of South 84th Street and West Schlinger Avenue in West Allis.
 
"They were attacking everybody for no reason whatsoever."
 
"It was 100% racial," claimed Eric, an Iraq war veteran from St. Francis who says young people beat on his car.
 
"I had a black couple on my right side, and these black kids were running in between all the cars, and they were pounding on my doors and trying to open up doors on my car, and they didn't do one thing to this black couple that was in this car next to us.  They just kept walking right past their car.  They were looking in everybody's windshield as they were running by, seeing who was white and who was black.  Guarantee it."
 
Eric, a war veteran, said that the scene he saw Thursday outside State Fair compares to what he saw in combat.
 
"That rated right up there with it.  When I saw the amount of kids coming down the road, all I kept thinking was, 'There's not enough cops to handle this.'  There's no way.  It would have taken the National Guard to control the number of kids that were coming off the road.  They were knocking people off their motorcycles."
 
Another witness, who asked to remain anonymous, said, "it was like a scene you needed the National Guard to control."
 
"To me, it looked like a scene out of a movie," claimed the anonymous witness.
 
"I have not seen anything like this in my life.  It was a huge mob, and it was a fight that maybe lasted one to two minutes."
 
Roffers claimed that as he left the state fair with his wife, crowds near that entrance were large, and someone in that crowd .
 
"As we got closer to the street, we looked up the road, and we saw a quite a bit of commotion going on and there was a guy laying in the road, and nobody was even laying there.  He wasn't even moving.  Finally a car pulled up.  They stopped right next to the guy, and it looked like someone was going to help him.  We were kind of stuck, because we couldn't cross.  Traffic was going through.  Young black men running around, beating on people, and we were like 'Let's get the heck out of here.'  The light turned, and I got attacked from behind.  I just got hit in the back of the head real hard.  I'm like, 'What the heck is going on here?'  I heard my bell ring."
 
Roffers further described what witnesses said happened to the man who was lying in the street.
 
"People were saying he was on a bike.  They tore him off his bike and beat on him.  We were walking to the west on Schlinger.  I was watching behind me a lot more diligently, making sure there wasn't anybody coming to get us anymore."
 
One person claimed that someone was knocked off a motorcycle.
 
TODAY'S TMJ4 video shows West Allis police handcuffing at least one person, but they won't say how many people they took into custody.
 
Some witnesses described attacks on the State Fair Grounds as well.
 
Milwaukee Police said that their officers were sent to State Fair Park for "complaints of battery, fighting and property damage due to a large, unruly crowd."
 
A police sergeant told TODAY'S TMJ4's Melissa McCrady that the number of calls describing injuries are still coming in, so they could not give an accurate number of people who were injured.
 
That sergeant explained that some injuries were serious, and local hospitals were attending to the injured.
 
As of early Friday morning, Milwaukee Police said they had no one in custody.
 
One woman told police that she was sitting in her car with a window down when some teenagers reached through her window and started attacking her.
 
"I think once we get all the info in it'll be just like that, like what happened in Riverwest," said the police sergeant.
 
West Allis Police ask you to call them at 414-302-8000 if you have any information.
 
Eric: "I feared for my life"
 
Eric, who asked Newsradio 620 WTMJ not to use his last name, talked about the incidents that happened as he, his wife and a neighbor left the fair Thursday.
 
"We exited at the Schlinger and 84th exit, and we walked south about a block, and then went up and got our car, came back up and around down Schlinger.  When we made a left hand turn, we were stopped in traffic. I looked toward the bridge, right before you get on the freeway, and all I saw was a road full of black kids, jumping over people's cars, jumping on people's hoods, running over the top of them."
 
Eric then claimed that he saw hundreds of young black people coming down a sidewalk.
 
"I saw them grab this white kid who was probably 14 or 15 years old.  They just flung him into the road.  They just jumped on him and started beating him.  They were kicking him.  He was on the ground.  A girl picked up a construction sign and pushed it over on top of him.  They were just running by and kicking him in the face."
 
Then, Eric talked about trying to get out of the car to help the victim.
 
"My wife pulled me back in because she didn't want me to get hit.  Thankfully, there was surprising a lady that was in the car in front of me that jumped out of the car real quick and went over there to try to put her body around the kid so they couldn't see he was laying there and, obviously, defenseless.  Her husband, or whoever was in the car, was screaming at her to get back into the car.  She ended up going back into the car.  These black kids grabbed this kid off the ground again, and pulled him up over the curb, onto the sidewalk and threw him into the bushes like he was a piece of garbage."
 
Eric claimed that the victim in that beating was by himself, and that there was a split of white people on one sidewalk and black people on the other.
 
"There was nobody else around to help him.  There were no other white people, period, on that side of the street.  They were going in the opposite direction because, those people who were coming out of the fair that saw these people coming, they either went back into the fair or took off running south on 84th Street."
 
Eric expressed anger at the State Fair Police for what he considered a lack of response.
 
"The thing that irritated me, the State Fair Police, the State Police, were down by the Pettit entrance to get in there," said Eric. "There was probably 5 or 6 officers down there.  That's where all these kids came from.  They came out of the Midway, across the front of the Pettit.  They were still filing out of there.  The State Fair Police, they knew this was going on.  They knew these kids were beating these guys in between that exit and Schlinger at the next gate."
 
"They were stopping traffic, and I said 'What in the hell,' excuse my language, 'what are you guys doing directing traffic when there are 300, 400 black kids up the road beating the hell out of everybody, pushing people off of motorcycles?'  I was livid.  I could not believe they were directing traffic."
 
Fair worker: attacks not limited to outside fairgrounds
 
A witness told WTMJ that as he worked in a kiosk at the State Fair Midway, he saw what he described as "a Riverwest type mob. Easily between 50 - 100 kids all under 18 and all African American.  They were running around knocking people over (young kids and adults), looting the Midway games (stealing the prizes), starting fights."
 
The witness, who asked not to be identified, couldn't say for certain if only white people were being attacked.
 
"It was just complete chaos.  There were police on horses, lots of security guards, and EMT's on the scene.  They never got control of the area."
 
A State Fair spokeswoman said that there were arrests made involving the incidents on the grounds.
 
He said that as the violence happened, he was "getting ready to grab my cash register and run."
 
"Not to mention this type of behavior started around 7pm and forced me to close down my stand at 9pm.  It scared the paying customers out of the midway."
 
The man said hoping to bring family on Friday, but has decided not to.
 
"I was planning on bringing my two kids to the fair tonight.  I won't be.  We'll go to the zoo instead."
 
Woman: Teenagers in mob didn't attend rap concert
 
One woman who asked not to be identified tells us that contrary to some belief, the young people involved in the mob did not go to the rap concert that night.
 
"The mob of black teenagers involved in the beatings and damage outside of State Fair last night were not there for the MC Hammer concert," said the woman.
 
"I attended that concert with three of my friends last night and the crowd was mostly white and adult (as are my friends and I). Any kids there seemed to be with parents."
 
She described what she saw as she left the fair.
 
"As we came through the exit we saw a white boy lying in the street, in the fetal position right by the traffic light, and coming towards us was tons and tons and black teens – there had to have been over a hundred – in the middle of 84th Street and on the sidewalk headed south," she said.
 
"Some who stopped to kick or punch him - or in the case of one girl drop kick him in the head - as they walked past. My friends and I started towards him to help him up and a black girl walked past telling us 'ya’ll gonna get your ***** kicked' repeatedly. As my friend stood in front of the boy trying to get him up one of the teens picked up a traffic cone, hit her in the back of the head and ran off. A car stopped, a white woman got out to try and help. Teens jumped onto the hood of the car and ran over it. She just kept saying 'What is wrong with you!?' "
 
The witness also told us that not every African-American teenager outside the fair grounds acted violent.
 
"We continued to move towards the parking lot, through even more black teenagers. Thankfully this part of the crowd was not violent."
 
Roffers: "What in the hell's going on there?"
 
Roffers described his emotions and reactions to the attacks outside the park.
 
"I turned around and looked, there was this black kid standing there laughing, thinking it's funny.  My wife's like, 'Let's get out of here.'  It's one of those things, you don't expect it.  Your reaction to it is, first of all, quite surprised, then you get so angry, it's like, 'What in the hell's going on there?  Why are these guys acting like such hoodlums?  What are they picking on anybody for?'  We were just like cattle being herded out of the park, and they were picking and choosing who they wanted to beat on."
 
He said his injuries were limited to a headache.
 
Roffers said the attack wouldn't stop him from attending the State Fair.
 
"We will be going back," said Roffers.
 
"It's a family event for us.  We get together with our family and we do stuff at the park to enjoy the fair.  My biggest concern is that the State Fair Park Police and West Allis get their heads out of their butts and figure out how to do some security over there.  This isn't the first year State Fair has been going on.  They should know what the heck they've got to do and where they've got to have people in place by now."
 
He said that the fear spread beyond those who he believed were the target.
 
"There were a lot of people scared," claimed Roffers.  

"There were even some young black girls.  They were screaming.  They were running across the road.  This one girl was like, 'I don't know how I'm going to get out of here.  I'm all by myself.'  My wife heard her saying that.  She said, 'Walk with us.  Stay with us and you'll be OK.'  We told her we were going down the street.  If she needed any assistance, we were just going down to our car.  She needed to go quite a way."
 
"There was this terror going on when you leave the place, you just wonder.  Luckily, all the violence that was happening stayed right close by the park entrance.  As we got a block away from the park, that's when the cops started showing up."
 
He said the lack of police and security presence will bring about his complaint up the various channels of State Fair and local police.
 
"They should be able to provide safety and traffic control," said Roffers.  "I've never worried about it before."
 
He said he would give a written complaint to the State Fair and put in a call to West Allis Police, but that's not all.
 
"I will be contacting the State Fair Park Board and I'm going to chew on their butts a little bit about what happened."
 
State Fair spokeswoman: "Unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
 
State Fair Director of Marketing and Communication Kathleen O'Leary told Newsradio 620 WTMJ's  "Wisconsin's Morning News" that the incidents should not stop people from coming to the fair.
 
"Certainly, don't change your plans," said O'Leary.  "Please understand that this is an unfortunate situation, hopefully an isolated situation."
 
Though witnesses had reported incidents inside the fair, she said the problems were mainly outside the fairgrounds.
 
"Not so much inside," claimed O'Leary.
 
"We had complete control inside of what was happening inside of our gates.  It's what what spread into the neighborhoods."
 
O'Leary also pointed out that the fair has "taken measures already with the bag checks, when you come into the fair," but will increase authorities' presence for the remaining days at the fair.
 
"We will be taking severe measures, significant measures.  We are in task force already, circling back around, doing everything that we can to make sure the experience is enjoyable and that the safety is insured," said O'Leary.
 
"They see the yellow security shirts.  We have mounted police.  We have bike police.  We have our patrolling police.  We have undercover police.  That's all because that's exactly what we want.  We want the safety measures intact at every turn."
 
 

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In all fairness, the waffle house closed early and many of them had already spent their entire welfare allowance from the first of the month on gold teeth and tennis shoes.

I'd be pissed off too.

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In all fairness, the waffle house closed early and many of them had already spent their entire welfare allowance from the first of the month on gold teeth and tennis shoes.

I'd be pissed off too.
Apparently they were juvis..


And didn't this happen last yr as well?

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Wow, this is totally unexpected.

But you know what, as much as I hate these little black fags, I think I hate the weak whites even more. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you cattle? Do you have any brains? Come up with a game plan weaklings!

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Wow, this is totally unexpected.

But you know what, as much as I hate these little black fags, I think I hate the weak whites even more. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you cattle? Do you have any brains? Come up with a game plan weaklings!

 What are they supposed to do in this situation?

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What are they supposed to do in this situation?
Fuck 'em up...apparently, these idiots feel that they can get awway with it, because they are juvis...hell no...if your parents didn't whip your ass and teach you home training, then you are going to get it from the outside world

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Avoid mobs of urban yutes.     How hard is that to understand?

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I would have loved to be on a hill far away with a sniper rifle.  The only thing better would be to just blow a hole in their head at point blank range but you know a "lib" would out you as the gunman and your ass would be in prison.

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I would have loved to be on a hill far away with a sniper rifle.  The only thing better would be to just blow a hole in their head at point blank range but you know a "lib" would out you as the gunman and your ass would be in prison.

When the food stamps and welfare stop, within weeks this nation will be in civil war. 

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Avoid mobs of urban yutes.     How hard is that to understand?

it isn't. But if my daughter and I are going to a fair or something how the fuck am I supposed to know mobs of dumbfucks will be there.

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it isn't. But if my daughter and I are going to a fair or something how the fuck am I supposed to know mobs of dumbfucks will be there.

Price of admission.    If it's free to walk in, the vultures will be there. 

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Price of admission.    If it's free to walk in, the vultures will be there. 

any fair or carnival I've been to admission is NOT free unless your under 2 years old. ;D

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Cops were worried about traffic control while these animals were running loose.  WTF?

Cowardly cops really suck. 

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Would it have helped to pump a few into someone who's attacking you if you all of a sudden found yourself in a mob situation or would it just get you into more serious trouble?

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand it would probably send everone scattering giving you a better opportuinty to get away  but I'd be worried that with such a large crowd some would have the balls/stupidity to actually run towards the person firing with either their own gun or in hopes of just overwhelming you with sheer numbers.

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Its times like these where I really wish I could pull out a Gatling gun and just start mowing the garbage down. I wouldn't necessarily want to kill, but maiming is fair play considering you, (or your family), might get stomped to death. Only in my dreams unfortunately. Anyway, I wonder if someone did pull out a gun and start shooting an attacker(s)? Probably get killed by the rest of the crowd or the police after the bullets run out.


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There are multiple accounts of what happenned but I would seriously doubt the story of hundreds of black people beating up white people.  Sounds to me like a fight between a white and black teenagers and all the other teenagers were pushing and shoving each other around to get a view.  

In any event, when you have a large crowd of teenagers running around, shit happens.


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http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html





Extra security officers guard the Wisconsin State Fair on Friday. Witnesses and police reported two separate incidents of mobs of unruly youths on Thursday night, resulting in at least 11 injuries and 31 arrests. Seven of the injured were police officers, and two were hospitalized.
e-mail print By Don Walker, Mike Johnson and Breann Schossow of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m.

 
The day after unprecedented melees marred opening night, State Fair officials reported a normal, violence-free evening Friday, thanks in part to new rules put in place to keep unattended teens away and a beefed-up presence of uniformed law enforcement officers.

“It really went well,” Patrice Harris, the fair’s communication manager, said Saturday.

At least 31 people were arrested and at least 11 people were injured Thursday, during the fair’s opening night.

The trouble Thursday began around 7 p.m. when fights erupted among black youths in the Midway area and spread into neighboring streets around the 11 p.m. closing time. In the later attacks, the youths targeted white people.



As a result of the violence, new rules were implemented that require all people under 18 to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian over the age of 21 in order to be admitted to the fairgrounds after 5 p.m.

In addition, Gov. Scott Walker ordered the State Patrol to help keep order. Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn also promised additional police protection at the fair and other weekend activities around the city.

“Fairgoers were coming into the park thanking us for the policies,” Harris said. “The extra security really assured people of their safety.”

Harris said she did not know if the new policies, or fear that Thursday’s violence might be repeated, suppressed attendance.

Attendance numbers are released after the fair ends, she said.

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and Flynn said Friday that beefed up policing at this weekend's major public events around the city was aimed at limiting any chance of the State Fair events being repeated.

The violence left workers and patrons of the fair in West Allis shaken and reminded many of the mob-like disturbances that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend in Milwaukee.

The trouble at the fair started around 7 p.m. Thursday in the midway area, where amusement rides are located, when fights broke out among black youths, said Tom Struebing, chief of the State Fair Police. Those fights did not appear to be racially motivated.

Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.


At least 31 people were arrested - many for disorderly conduct - in connection with the incidents on the fairgrounds and on the streets outside. At least 11 people, seven of them police officers, were injured, officials said. Twenty-four people were arrested within the fairgrounds by State Fair Police. West Allis police arrested seven people, five of them juveniles, outside the fairgrounds.


Struebing said two injured officers were hospitalized; one was hit in the face with an improvised weapon, the other suffered a concussion.


"We normally can handle anything in the park," Struebing said.


Because of the violence, Rick Frenette, CEO of the fair, announced that the fair would immediately implement a policy in which no youths under 18 years of age would be allowed onto the grounds after 5 p.m. without a parent or guardian at least 21 years old.


Frenette, a veteran of 40 years in fair management, said he had never implemented such a policy before.


Walker made the decision to provide extra State Patrol help after reviewing the incidents, said his spokesmen, Cullen Werwie.


"We will continue to evaluate the situation and make any adjustments necessary to ensure a successful and safe event. We will be doing everything in our power to ensure that parents feel that it is safe to bring their children to the world's best fair," Werwie said in a statement.


West Allis Mayor Dan Devine said in a statement that "thuggery has no place at the Wisconsin State Fair, or anywhere in our society."


Devine said he was disgusted by the reports of violence. "It is appalling that a group of hoodlums has cast such a negative light on what is traditionally a safe and family friendly event," he said in a statement.

Barrett said there would be no tolerance for violence at festivals and that perpetrators will be prosecuted - regardless of race.


"Two years ago, I was a victim of a random attack (outside) State Fair . . . last night, events took place at State Fair that I don't believe are random," Barrett said at a City Hall news conference. The attack by a man wielding a tire iron left Barrett with stitches in his head, broken teeth and broken bones in his right hand. On Friday, security started setting up extra metal fencing at entrances around 5 p.m.


Patrice Harris, communications manager for the State Fair, said identification will be checked at each gate in the area where bags are searched. She said the time spent checking for identification shouldn't affect the time spent waiting in line before getting into the fair.


At Gate 3, at least 70 people had their IDs checked within the first hour. All appeared to be minors without guardians.

Jeremy Chavez, Anthony Henderson and Anthony DeHoyas, all 16, were among those stopped.

"I didn't know about the adult thing," Chavez said, although he had heard that IDs would be checked. Henderson and DeHoyas were also taken by surprise.


DeHoyas, who was celebrating his birthday Friday, was upset at being turned away and said he doesn't plan to come back.


He called his mother, who came to the fair to supervise the three teenagers.


Police from three jurisdictions - West Allis, Milwaukee and Wisconsin State Fair - spent Friday trying to piece together what happened. But they could not say what started the situation.


Witnesses, though, told the Journal Sentinel that the attacks appeared to be unprovoked and racially motivated.


"You could just tell they were after white people. That was the main thing. If you were white, they were coming after you," said Jon Stikl of Oak Creek.

He said he was stuck in traffic as a group of young people blocked cars near the fair gate on S. 84th St. near I-94 after he picked up family members attending the fair.


"We noticed a group of five to 10 young black males run up and jump a young white male for no other reason then him being white," Stikl said.

They knocked him to the ground, and then a group of 15 black men kicked and stomped on him, Stikl said.


"My wife's brother jumped out of the car - his natural reaction was to try to break it up. Before you knew it, five or 10 guys were on him and started punching at him. My wife was able to pull him back in the car. So now they surrounded my car and just started punching through the windows, kicking and shaking the car, screaming racial things."

He said there should have been more police presence, given that disturbances were reported inside the fairgrounds shortly after 7 p.m. Thursday.

"I was disgusted by the lack of security. It's a black eye on the State Fair" and police, he said.


Andrew J. Coleman, a recent University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee graduate, said he and a friend were attacked about 10:30 p.m. after they left the fair through the gate off S. 84th near the Pettit National Ice Center.


"I just heard footsteps behind me and I turned around and I got hit in the face. There were six or seven just beating on me," said Coleman, who has a sore jaw from the punches.


His friend was stomped on and his sneakers stolen, said Coleman, of Milwaukee.


A concession worker who works near the midway area told the Journal Sentinel that earlier Thursday night, large groups of African-American youths ran through the midway, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting midway amusement rides and tearing signs up. The midway is east of the Pettit National Ice Center and adjacent to the Hank Aaron State Trail.

"I have never seen anything like it," the worker said. "It was mob mentality."

The worker said there was police presence, including officers on horseback, but it was not enough.

A 34-year-old Muskego man said he was riding on the Ferris wheel in the midway with one of his children when he heard shouts of "fight" sometime after 7 p.m. He saw a big group of people, perhaps 200 to 300, gathered around a brawl.

"I've never seen anything like this in my life. . . . There were so many people you couldn't see who was fighting. There was just this big group that kept growing and chanting, 'Fight, fight, fight,' " he said. "That lasted for one to two minutes. Then when security showed up blowing some whistles, all of this mob started running. It was like a herd of cattle."

Milwaukee Common Council President Willie Hines said he was at the fair Thursday night and witnessed blacks fighting each other, but did not see any blacks attack whites.

He said that if it happened, those individuals should be charged with the crime as well as a hate crime.

"They should be penalized for the prime incident, and we should have a racial enhancer," Hines said.

Although some fairgoers were critical of police response, Hines said State Fair police acted appropriately and professionally.

"They were working hard to control the chaos," Hines said.

He said some coordination problems with other police departments might have happened outside the grounds.

The Wisconsin State Fair is in different jurisdictions. The north side of the fairgrounds, from the Hank Aaron State Trail north, is in Milwaukee. The rest is in West Allis. Adding to the confusion is that the Wisconsin State Fair Park police have jurisdiction only on the fairgrounds, not outside of it.

The incidents Thursday night come as the State Fair Board has worked to increase diversity at the annual fair, expanding its entertainment lineup and attempting to appeal to a younger, more multicultural audience. Diversity was a priority for former State Fair Park Chairman Martin Greenberg, who spoke of making it a "place of inclusion, not exclusion."

The violence is similar to what occurred in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood over the July 4 holiday, when about 60 young people beat and robbed a smaller group that had been watching fireworks from Kilbourn Reservoir Park. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said. Another group looted a convenience store.

Thursday night's Main Stage performer was rapper MC Hammer, but a number of people who attended the concert said the show wasn't to blame for the disturbances at the fair. One woman said the crowd watching Hammer was mostly white and adult, and any children there seemed to be with parents.

Another woman said the concert was "very laid-back and had no craziness that we witnessed at all. The craziness was in the midway."

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Extra security officers guard the Wisconsin State Fair on Friday. Witnesses and police reported two separate incidents of mobs of unruly youths on Thursday night, resulting in at least 11 injuries and 31 arrests. Seven of the injured were police officers, and two were hospitalized.
e-mail print By Don Walker, Mike Johnson and Breann Schossow of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 6, 2011 11:40 a.m.

 
The day after unprecedented melees marred opening night, State Fair officials reported a normal, violence-free evening Friday, thanks in part to new rules put in place to keep unattended teens away and a beefed-up presence of uniformed law enforcement officers.

“It really went well,” Patrice Harris, the fair’s communication manager, said Saturday.

At least 31 people were arrested and at least 11 people were injured Thursday, during the fair’s opening night.

The trouble Thursday began around 7 p.m. when fights erupted among black youths in the Midway area and spread into neighboring streets around the 11 p.m. closing time. In the later attacks, the youths targeted white people.



As a result of the violence, new rules were implemented that require all people under 18 to be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian over the age of 21 in order to be admitted to the fairgrounds after 5 p.m.

In addition, Gov. Scott Walker ordered the State Patrol to help keep order. Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn also promised additional police protection at the fair and other weekend activities around the city.

“Fairgoers were coming into the park thanking us for the policies,” Harris said. “The extra security really assured people of their safety.”

Harris said she did not know if the new policies, or fear that Thursday’s violence might be repeated, suppressed attendance.

Attendance numbers are released after the fair ends, she said.

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and Flynn said Friday that beefed up policing at this weekend's major public events around the city was aimed at limiting any chance of the State Fair events being repeated.

The violence left workers and patrons of the fair in West Allis shaken and reminded many of the mob-like disturbances that occurred over the Fourth of July weekend in Milwaukee.

The trouble at the fair started around 7 p.m. Thursday in the midway area, where amusement rides are located, when fights broke out among black youths, said Tom Struebing, chief of the State Fair Police. Those fights did not appear to be racially motivated.

Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.


At least 31 people were arrested - many for disorderly conduct - in connection with the incidents on the fairgrounds and on the streets outside. At least 11 people, seven of them police officers, were injured, officials said. Twenty-four people were arrested within the fairgrounds by State Fair Police. West Allis police arrested seven people, five of them juveniles, outside the fairgrounds.


Struebing said two injured officers were hospitalized; one was hit in the face with an improvised weapon, the other suffered a concussion.


"We normally can handle anything in the park," Struebing said.


Because of the violence, Rick Frenette, CEO of the fair, announced that the fair would immediately implement a policy in which no youths under 18 years of age would be allowed onto the grounds after 5 p.m. without a parent or guardian at least 21 years old.


Frenette, a veteran of 40 years in fair management, said he had never implemented such a policy before.


Walker made the decision to provide extra State Patrol help after reviewing the incidents, said his spokesmen, Cullen Werwie.


"We will continue to evaluate the situation and make any adjustments necessary to ensure a successful and safe event. We will be doing everything in our power to ensure that parents feel that it is safe to bring their children to the world's best fair," Werwie said in a statement.


West Allis Mayor Dan Devine said in a statement that "thuggery has no place at the Wisconsin State Fair, or anywhere in our society."


Devine said he was disgusted by the reports of violence. "It is appalling that a group of hoodlums has cast such a negative light on what is traditionally a safe and family friendly event," he said in a statement.

Barrett said there would be no tolerance for violence at festivals and that perpetrators will be prosecuted - regardless of race.


"Two years ago, I was a victim of a random attack (outside) State Fair . . . last night, events took place at State Fair that I don't believe are random," Barrett said at a City Hall news conference. The attack by a man wielding a tire iron left Barrett with stitches in his head, broken teeth and broken bones in his right hand. On Friday, security started setting up extra metal fencing at entrances around 5 p.m.


Patrice Harris, communications manager for the State Fair, said identification will be checked at each gate in the area where bags are searched. She said the time spent checking for identification shouldn't affect the time spent waiting in line before getting into the fair.


At Gate 3, at least 70 people had their IDs checked within the first hour. All appeared to be minors without guardians.

Jeremy Chavez, Anthony Henderson and Anthony DeHoyas, all 16, were among those stopped.

"I didn't know about the adult thing," Chavez said, although he had heard that IDs would be checked. Henderson and DeHoyas were also taken by surprise.


DeHoyas, who was celebrating his birthday Friday, was upset at being turned away and said he doesn't plan to come back.


He called his mother, who came to the fair to supervise the three teenagers.


Police from three jurisdictions - West Allis, Milwaukee and Wisconsin State Fair - spent Friday trying to piece together what happened. But they could not say what started the situation.


Witnesses, though, told the Journal Sentinel that the attacks appeared to be unprovoked and racially motivated.


"You could just tell they were after white people. That was the main thing. If you were white, they were coming after you," said Jon Stikl of Oak Creek.

He said he was stuck in traffic as a group of young people blocked cars near the fair gate on S. 84th St. near I-94 after he picked up family members attending the fair.


"We noticed a group of five to 10 young black males run up and jump a young white male for no other reason then him being white," Stikl said.

They knocked him to the ground, and then a group of 15 black men kicked and stomped on him, Stikl said.


"My wife's brother jumped out of the car - his natural reaction was to try to break it up. Before you knew it, five or 10 guys were on him and started punching at him. My wife was able to pull him back in the car. So now they surrounded my car and just started punching through the windows, kicking and shaking the car, screaming racial things."

He said there should have been more police presence, given that disturbances were reported inside the fairgrounds shortly after 7 p.m. Thursday.

"I was disgusted by the lack of security. It's a black eye on the State Fair" and police, he said.


Andrew J. Coleman, a recent University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee graduate, said he and a friend were attacked about 10:30 p.m. after they left the fair through the gate off S. 84th near the Pettit National Ice Center.


"I just heard footsteps behind me and I turned around and I got hit in the face. There were six or seven just beating on me," said Coleman, who has a sore jaw from the punches.


His friend was stomped on and his sneakers stolen, said Coleman, of Milwaukee.


A concession worker who works near the midway area told the Journal Sentinel that earlier Thursday night, large groups of African-American youths ran through the midway, knocking over young children and adults, disrupting midway amusement rides and tearing signs up. The midway is east of the Pettit National Ice Center and adjacent to the Hank Aaron State Trail.

"I have never seen anything like it," the worker said. "It was mob mentality."

The worker said there was police presence, including officers on horseback, but it was not enough.

A 34-year-old Muskego man said he was riding on the Ferris wheel in the midway with one of his children when he heard shouts of "fight" sometime after 7 p.m. He saw a big group of people, perhaps 200 to 300, gathered around a brawl.

"I've never seen anything like this in my life. . . . There were so many people you couldn't see who was fighting. There was just this big group that kept growing and chanting, 'Fight, fight, fight,' " he said. "That lasted for one to two minutes. Then when security showed up blowing some whistles, all of this mob started running. It was like a herd of cattle."

Milwaukee Common Council President Willie Hines said he was at the fair Thursday night and witnessed blacks fighting each other, but did not see any blacks attack whites.

He said that if it happened, those individuals should be charged with the crime as well as a hate crime.

"They should be penalized for the prime incident, and we should have a racial enhancer," Hines said.

Although some fairgoers were critical of police response, Hines said State Fair police acted appropriately and professionally.

"They were working hard to control the chaos," Hines said.

He said some coordination problems with other police departments might have happened outside the grounds.

The Wisconsin State Fair is in different jurisdictions. The north side of the fairgrounds, from the Hank Aaron State Trail north, is in Milwaukee. The rest is in West Allis. Adding to the confusion is that the Wisconsin State Fair Park police have jurisdiction only on the fairgrounds, not outside of it.

The incidents Thursday night come as the State Fair Board has worked to increase diversity at the annual fair, expanding its entertainment lineup and attempting to appeal to a younger, more multicultural audience. Diversity was a priority for former State Fair Park Chairman Martin Greenberg, who spoke of making it a "place of inclusion, not exclusion."

The violence is similar to what occurred in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood over the July 4 holiday, when about 60 young people beat and robbed a smaller group that had been watching fireworks from Kilbourn Reservoir Park. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said. Another group looted a convenience store.

Thursday night's Main Stage performer was rapper MC Hammer, but a number of people who attended the concert said the show wasn't to blame for the disturbances at the fair. One woman said the crowd watching Hammer was mostly white and adult, and any children there seemed to be with parents.

Another woman said the concert was "very laid-back and had no craziness that we witnessed at all. The craziness was in the midway."

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You go fuck yourself.  Honestly, with all of the stuff being said then why wasn't any of this caught on camera.  You would think someone would be filming it with a cell phone or something.  Just doesn't add it and its irrational to think otherwise.

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You go fuck yourself.  Honestly, with all of the stuff being said then why wasn't any of this caught on camera.  You would think someone would be filming it with a cell phone or something.  Just doesn't add it and its irrational to think otherwise.

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Bullshit.  Too many user accounts of what happened that basically say the same thing.  These animals were out of control and need to be shot dead.  I would say the same thing if they were white as well.  It's not a black or white thing.  It's just that usually when things like this happens  99.999999 percent of the time it's the negroes.