GH15 and getbigers-Do you think the moderate dosage of GH is good for longevity?

[el numero uno]

what is this purple thing on your avatar?? you became transexual? 5 pink stars?

He was born as a woman. Years ago, she (stavios) worked with Noel Fullershit for 1 year. What, you did not know that?

[Stavios]

what is this purple thing on your avatar?? you became transexual? 5 pink stars?

hahahaha 

[Max B]

He was born as a woman. Years ago, she (stavios) worked with Noel Fullershit for 1 year. What, you did not know that?

lol jessus, what a real low life piece of shit this fella noel is.. what if your name was noel though?

[Stavios]

lol jessus, what a real low life piece of shit this fella noel is.. what if your name was noel? lol fuckin herb

don't worry for me guys, I am happy now has a man,  I am now superior

thanks to Noel

[DK II]

Given that he is friends with and trains with a walking pharmacy, he's done well to stay natural this long..

 

[kyomu]

this thread makes no sense at all

absolutely no sense

it goes against everything you have always said Kyomu

Yep! Pure contradicition. Its me!

[kyomu]

Yes, yes, yes. Continue the path, my friend. And I'm certain we will have a good laugh when the " game " is over.


Btw, imo ( and I certainly respect yours ), soul is not an illusion. Soul IS consciousness. When you meditate and tap into the depths of your consciousness, you are re-connecting with the infinite ... the real ... the soul. But, again, this is only my opinion.

Yes. thats your opinion and thats a truth from one aspect. but, Tao is everything We cant even state it.
Everything we see or we understand is interpreted by our mind created by our conciousness. The pinpoint cant see itself...

[kyomu]

All "naturals" Kyomu eventually go to the dark side.

Since i dont understan anything, i do what i want.

[kyomu]

lol... the game... thats what it is unless your in an enlightened state behaving righteously..  thats what life is.. as we grow and learn to release our egos and submit to god we rise out of the "matrix" of animalism and narcissism and become souls , free spirits in the divine and sublime presence of the almighty. forever. thats right kyomu, enlightenment is about immortality; but not only for your own sake, for everyones.

No. Immortality create a hell called boredom.
Imagine 10000yrs, what are you going to do?
Or God says "Good boy, you accomplish it.". Then you say  "From now, For what do i dedicate myself?"

[kyomu]

Given that he is friends with and trains with a walking pharmacy, he's done well to stay natural this long..

Telling the truth,
paco always say that i am doing right(Being natural).
He exactly says same thing as you guys "You want a plastic trophy with all these expence?"

[The Wizard of Truth]

In fairness Kyomu you train and are friends with one of bodybuildings biggest and conditioned pro's
You should be giving us advice on gh and gear
You should start an 'ask Paco' thread where we send u msgs to ask Paco
Btw can u ask him if he'd be interested in guestposing next year in Ireland, the weekend after Fibo, April 28th

[kyomu]

In fairness Kyomu you train and are friends with one of bodybuildings biggest and conditioned pro's
You should be giving us advice on gh and gear
You should start an 'ask Paco' thread where we send u msgs to ask Paco
Btw can u ask him if he'd be interested in guestposing next year in Ireland, the weekend after Fibo, April 28th

Of course. He will be very appriciate. Send me a PM for detail.

[NordicNerd]

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really hgh is a drug that extend life ,, really is ,, i dont think it should be catagorized as drug ,, it should be available to everyone past the age of 30! and should be included in health insurance as in covered ...

A quote is in order: "The flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long" (from Blade Runner) ;-). Anyway, I guess growth hormone may prolong the meaningful phase of life, but in the end, cell replication goes bad and you get cancer, or degenerative processes ruins your brain, vascular system and joints. Aging is programmed and as of yet, unstoppable. Only certain aging "brake" is prolonged energy deficit (shown in animal models).

But, only a randomized controlled drug trial could determine this with certainty. I volunteer ;-).

NN

[kyomu]

A quote is in order: "The flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long" (from Blade Runner) ;-). Anyway, I guess growth hormone may prolong the meaningful phase of life, but in the end, cell replication goes bad and you get cancer, or degenerative processes ruins your brain, vascular system and joints. Aging is programmed and as of yet, unstoppable. Only certain aging "brake" is prolonged energy deficit (shown in animal models).

But, only a randomized controlled drug trial could determine this with certainty. I volunteer ;-).

NN

Good post.

[ksa_triceps]

The problem with GH is that it gives me carpel tunnel problems (specifically around the thumb) instantly. It destroyed my first cycle and made me stop half way, I couldn't even write let alone lift weights.

[dyslexic]

There are a lot more side effects to even "moderate" dosages of Gh, especially for someone who is NOT deficient in the hormone. How can we say that GH would be a miraculous substitute for someone who only lives a "balanced" life because of an SSRI?


There is a ton of medical advice being spewn forth amongst certain "spiritual" beliefs ~ all mixed together in a concoction that gives eternal life, peace and happiness?


I think not.


The real truth is always elusive because in THIS world it is made obvious by an Enemy. A "Master Deciever" or a "Deciever of the bretheren..."


Finding "truth" is a very narrow pathway that only a few will travel. Finding a 'wonder-drug' to cure all problems is nonsense. It will never work that way regardless of scientific breakthroughs. On that, you can bank.

[gh15]

The problem with GH is that it gives me carpel tunnel problems (specifically around the thumb) instantly. It destroyed my first cycle and made me stop half way, I couldn't even write let alone lift weights.

it should go down after 3 weeks ,,and most good gh wont bloat that much for so long if at all,,if you are bloat from gh it should be downgraded within 3 weeks ...if it doesnt then something is wrong with your generic gh

generaly speaking,, how much money is it worth to not get sick at all? think about it...felas would pay their first borns for not getting sick ,,i dont thikn yuo fellas understand what im saying here,,

have you ever met fellas who havent been sick for 6 for 8 for 10 years? do you know what it mean? do you understand that fellas with hiv for example get sick lots of times...or more often due to immune system being fucked slowly ,,so think about it if body dont get sick for 10 years...what does it mean?

its mean gh create invinsible humans,, it means that gh ,,and even if nto taken consistantly ,, even if only taken for couple months here and there...create a stronger from within creature ,,and im talking here health wize! not physical in gym ...im talking HEALTH ..

does health have price on it? you are getting gh for change,, you pay nothing for it ,, in reality the fellas who been on gh know what it means ...this is why its such a big deal this is why there is so much fight over it ,,


think about it friends....if someone tell you they have nto been sick for 10 years..what do you think of those someone? you usualy see them as invinsible ...this leads to problems in relashionship because gh make you tired at times...and aas make you very letargic...yet you are healthy....so your partner think you are lazy ...so it bring lots of problem,, but ! legit gh = magic in a bottle


gh15 approved

[tbombz]

No. Immortality create a hell called boredom.
Imagine 10000yrs, what are you going to do?
Or God says "Good boy, you accomplish it.". Then you say  "From now, For what do i dedicate myself?"

no, im glad you think that though, you will be even more happy when you enter gods kingdom. life here on earth is very bored. sure, everyonce in a while we experience pleasuree, but even that we get used to very quick. nothing is certain, everything requires effort, we struggle with our egos and accepting inferiority to others as well as god.  but imagine being in complete ecstacy, the kind that never leaves, knowing the truth for certain, having gods divine presence vibrating within you at all times, the ability to do anything you can imagine, and do it with an infinite amount of other completely free souls who are also in ecsasy and able to do anything they can imagine. you now have a playground of infinite size, with infinite possibility, and an infinite amount of knowledge and pleasure to experience. that is the kingdom of god. and lets say one day you get tired of playing with the others.. go rest next to the essence of the almight and let his presence warm you like youve never been warmed.

[dyslexic]

no, im glad you think that though, you will be even more happy when you enter gods kingdom. life here on earth is very bored. sure, everyonce in a while we experience pleasuree, but even that we get used to very quick. nothing is certain, everything requires effort, we struggle with our egos and accepting inferiority to others as well as god.  but imagine being in complete ecstacy, the kind that never leaves, knowing the truth for certain, having gods divine presence vibrating within you at all times, the ability to do anything you can imagine, and do it with an infinite amount of other completely free souls who are also in ecsasy and able to do anything they can imagine. you now have a playground of infinite size, with infinite possibility, and an infinite amount of knowledge and pleasure to experience. that is the kingdom of god. and lets say one day you get tired of playing with the others.. go rest next to the essence of the almight and let his presence warm you like youve never been warmed.

I did not know that you were a Christian...


and you live so close. Amen brother.


Seems there's been a ton of "spiritual warfare" on all of my favorite forums lately. I believe it to be a "sign of the times..."

[Earl1972]

it should go down after 3 weeks ,,and most good gh wont bloat that much for so long if at all,,if you are bloat from gh it should be downgraded within 3 weeks ...if it doesnt then something is wrong with your generic gh

generaly speaking,, how much money is it worth to not get sick at all? think about it...felas would pay their first borns for not getting sick ,,i dont thikn yuo fellas understand what im saying here,,

have you ever met fellas who havent been sick for 6 for 8 for 10 years? do you know what it mean? do you understand that fellas with hiv for example get sick lots of times...or more often due to immune system being fucked slowly ,,so think about it if body dont get sick for 10 years...what does it mean?

its mean gh create invinsible humans,, it means that gh ,,and even if nto taken consistantly ,, even if only taken for couple months here and there...create a stronger from within creature ,,and im talking here health wize! not physical in gym ...im talking HEALTH ..

does health have price on it? you are getting gh for change,, you pay nothing for it ,, in reality the fellas who been on gh know what it means ...this is why its such a big deal this is why there is so much fight over it ,,


think about it friends....if someone tell you they have nto been sick for 10 years..what do you think of those someone? you usualy see them as invinsible ...this leads to problems in relashionship because gh make you tired at times...and aas make you very letargic...yet you are healthy....so your partner think you are lazy ...so it bring lots of problem,, but ! legit gh = magic in a bottle


gh15 approved

i haven't been sick for 6 years, and i think the reason i got sick was because i ate undercooked chicken

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[tbombz]

I did not know that you were a Christian...


and you live so close. Amen brother.


Seems there's been a ton of "spiritual warfare" on all of my favorite forums lately. I believe it to be a "sign of the times..."

i am a .. self taught christian.. cant say i believe in christ 100%.. more like 60ish%..  never met him, nevr seen any miracles performed, never experienced anything that would make me believe in him without question.. what makes me believe is the words he supposedly spoke, the life he supposedly lived, and the millions, nay billions of souls who have dedicated their life to preserving his name and story..   its hard for me to believe that a conspiracy the likes of which would have been necessary in order for christs life to have been fiction could have ever been so successfull.. if we cant trust our fellow man who can we trust.. and i think that is probably the lesson we are being taught be being denied 100% knowledge of his life.. as for him being the son of god and a completely perfect human being.. that part im even less sure of.. i think its posible he was just another man, but an incredibly wise man who was the first and last to be able to live a life worthy of a prophet while preaching the truth and willing to become a martyr. for that god may have blessed him and brought his soul directly into his kingdom, as if he were the "son of god".i dont think he got everything right though. christ preached about the grinding and smashing of teeth, about hell fire and destruction. these are oversatments. but maybe he misrepresented the truth on purpouse... if no one fears hell then they may not see a reason to act just here on earth and just decide to take the consequences on in the afterlife.. thinking that while it might be easier to behave morally now and avoid suffering later, it will be much easier to suffer the hard lessons they must be taught when they are absolutely certain of god and heavens existence.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

I should've kept my muthafuckin' mouth shut, Kyo. Now we have western religion as well as thought bein' brought into this thread. Oh, brother ...

[Bam-bam]

what a dormant cancer? wouldnt gh speed up the grow rate of those cancerinous cells? also is it possible for GH to cause internal organs grow? There is a doctor in my gym that is sub 7% bf but has a HUGE gut and has been taking GH for over a decade.

[tbombz]

I should've kept my muthafuckin' mouth shut, Kyo. Now we have western religion as well as thought bein' brought into this thread. Oh, brother ...

over the course of a few years i want you to keep your mind occupied on philosophy, take tons of shrooms every few months, ecstacy every few weeks, and smoke weed everyday.. dont do it for pleasure, use the time to meditate. focus on what it may be like to be god, what god must be like, and ask yourself all the very tough questions that seem to, on the surface at least, contradict the notion of a perfect diety who created the world to bring eternal happiness to us.  over time you will come to certain conclusions of what must be.


for example, one thing i repeat over and over on this site, the conept of solid material, matter itself, is completely ilogical, implausible, and impossible. knowing that, you realise the only thing that actually exists is spirit, and the energy which spirit commands.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

over the course of a few years i want you to keep your mind occupied on philosophy, take tons of shrooms every few months, ecstacy every few weeks, and smoke weed everyday.. dont do it for pleasure, use the time to meditate. focus on what it may be like to be god, what god must be like, and ask yourself all the very tough questions that seem to, on the surface at least, contradict the notion of a perfect diety who created the world to bring eternal happiness to us.  over time you will come to certain conclusions of what must be.


for example, one thing i repeat over and over on this site, the conept of solid material, matter itself, is completely ilogical, implausible, and impossible. knowing that, you realise the only thing that actually exists is spirit, and the energy which spirit commands.

LMAO !! Yes, T, all that exists IS spirit. This is true. I came to this conclusion YEARS ago as a child. And, thankfully, I didn't need to ingest any narcotics in order to do so.


Btw, I have no need for philosophy.  " Mental Masturbation " is somethin' I leave for the " intellects ".