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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 09:53:17 AM »
pretty dumb thing to claim a WIN of 98%...

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 10:10:59 AM »
pretty dumb thing to claim a WIN of 98%...

He should not have said that since it was not true - but remember how they got there you tool bag - obama theatened to veto cut cap and balance as well as the ryan plan, not to mention his ignoring Simpson Bowels. 

But  keep up the kneepadding bro - your descent into pure leftist bullshit ala blacken, benny, andre, mal, vince is almost complete.   

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 11:31:19 AM »
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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 11:34:14 AM »
He should not have said that since it was not true

So Boehnner LIED?

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 11:36:16 AM »
So Boehnner LIED?

No, he was talking in the context of obama having threatened a veto of cut cap and balance, rejecting the ryan plan, and rejecting simpson bowlesm, and the fact that he was dealing with perhaps the worst potus this country has ever had. 

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 11:50:29 AM »
No, he was talking in the context of obama having threatened a veto of cut cap and balance, rejecting the ryan plan, and rejecting simpson bowlesm, and the fact that he was dealing with perhaps the worst potus this country has ever had. 

oh.  He wasn't talking specifically about the debt deal?


WRONG.

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/08/boehner-got-98-percent-of-what-he-wanted-in-debt-deal/

He specifically said 98% of THIS AGREEMENT.

he wasn't talking generalities.  He was talking about this debt deal.

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 11:52:00 AM »
No, he was talking in the context of obama having threatened a veto of cut cap and balance, rejecting the ryan plan, and rejecting simpson bowlesm, and the fact that he was dealing with perhaps the worst potus this country has ever had. 

“When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I’m pretty happy.”


He wasn't talking about the other things you mentioned.  he was talking about this final agreement on the debt bill. 

I guess he got the win, huh?  He's claiming it.  98% is pretty damn good.

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 11:55:36 AM »
THIS WAS AFTER OBAMA REJECTED SIMPSON BOWLES, RYAN BUDGET, AND CUT CAP AND BALANCE, YOU FOOL, NOT TO MENTION NOT RELEASING HIS OWN PLAN! 

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 12:11:51 PM »
There were no other plans.

Obama didn't have one.
Reid didn't have one until the end and it was pretty much a copy and paste job of Boehners plan once it got to the Senate.

The Republicans were the only ones with any plans, with anything to be scored by the CBO and by the public.

We never saw the "Gang Of 6's" plan outside of some leaked details here and there, so where were the others peoples plans?

Answer: There weren't any.

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 02:27:21 PM »
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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 02:50:29 PM »
THIS WAS AFTER OBAMA REJECTED SIMPSON BOWLES, RYAN BUDGET, AND CUT CAP AND BALANCE, YOU FOOL, NOT TO MENTION NOT RELEASING HIS OWN PLAN! 

this was also after abe lincoln was shot.  this was also after a big rock killed all the dinos.

BUT THESE THINGS ARE SEPARATE EVENTS!

You can try to re-write what Boehnner "meant", but his own words deliver exactly what he means.    Read is again boss:

When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I’m pretty happy.”

He didn't say "When you look at all these other events".
He said "the final agreement", which was the debt deal.

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 03:06:10 PM »
No its not seperate events!   Had that commie dirtbag you love so much passed the ryan budget, cut cap and balance, or the simpson bowles recs, the downgrade would never have occurred. 


I dont care what he said.  i look at what actually happened. 

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Re: Thom Hartmann: Boehner got 98% - Americans got another Recession
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 03:29:48 PM »
Hartman is another leftist clown with nary a thought to call his own. He tries to be some big "speaking truth to power!" guy but ends up as just another liberal DNC talking point reading machine.

We've been through the numbers a thousand times on here.

800 billion dollar stimulus

U.E. Insurance to infinite

Historically high foodstamp enrollment.

3 years of 3.2+ trillion dollar budgets

3 years of 1+ trillion dollar budget deficits.

3 wars and a continued war economy

750 billion in defense spending.

ZERO % interest rates from the Fed from 2007-2013 (probably longer)

2 Rounds of QEII

Cash for Clunkers

The housing tax credit that duped so many Americans into bad housing deals

And fuck it, the Bush Tax Cut ext. didn't work and neither did the payroll tax cut (Which has got to be one of the dumbest thing to come down the pike from Obama yet) was a total failure too.

And the list goes on.....

All if it was stimulus in one way or another and all of it FAILED, FAILED, FAILED to produce anything resembling organic and sustainable economic growth. How many years has it been? How many more years does it have to be before some people realize it didn't work and never will? All of the standard Left-Right ideologue crap hasn't worked and won't work because it never addressed the root cause of what is killing us.

DEBT, an out of control and increasingly insolvent financial sector, wage growth and a tax code that doesn't punish the productive class and incentivise the off-shoring of our production capacity. There are other things, but these to me are the main reasons for our decline. This shouldn't be a surprise as it's been in the works for a loooong time right in front of us but we had easy credit and tons of access to debt to mask the fact that our real standard of living was declining.