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Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« on: August 09, 2011, 06:57:51 PM »
Obama plan: Destroy Romney

By BEN SMITH & JONATHAN MARTIN | 8/9/11 4:29 AM EDT Updated: 8/9/11 11:26 AM EDT

Barack Obama’s aides and advisers are preparing to center the president’s reelection campaign on a ferocious personal assault on Mitt Romney’s character and business background, a strategy grounded in the early-stage expectation that the former Massachusetts governor is the likely GOP nominee.

The dramatic and unabashedly negative turn is the product of political reality. Obama remains personally popular, but pluralities in recent polling disapprove of his handling of his job, and Americans fear the country is on the wrong track. His aides are increasingly resigned to running for reelection in a glum nation. And so the candidate who ran on “hope” in 2008 has little choice four years later but to run a slashing, personal campaign aimed at disqualifying his likeliest opponent.

In a move that will make some Democrats shudder, Obama’s high command has even studied former President George W. Bush’s 2004 takedown of Sen. John Kerry, a senior campaign adviser told POLITICO, for clues on how a president with middling approval ratings can defeat a challenger.

“Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney,” said a prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White House.

The onslaught would have two aspects. The first is personal: Obama’s reelection campaign will portray the public Romney as inauthentic, unprincipled and, in a word used repeatedly by Obama’s advisers in about a dozen interviews, “weird.”

“First, they’ve got to like you, and there’s not a lot to like about Mitt Romney,” said Chicago Democratic consultant Pete Giangreco, who worked on Obama’s 2008 campaign. “There’s no way to hide this guy and hide his innate phoniness.”

A senior Obama adviser was even more cutting, suggesting that the Republican’s personal awkwardness will turn off voters.

“There’s a weirdness factor with Romney, and it remains to be seen how he wears with the public,” the adviser said, noting that the contrasts they’d drive between the president and the former Massachusetts governor would be “based on character to a great extent.”

The second aspect of the campaign to define Romney is his record as CEO of Bain Capital, a venture capital firm that was responsible for both creating and eliminating jobs. Obama officials intend to frame Romney as the very picture of greed in the great recession — a sort of political Gordon Gekko.

“He was very, very good at making a profit for himself and his partners but not nearly as good [at] saving jobs for communities,” said David Axelrod, the president’s chief strategist. “His is very much the profile of what we’ve seen in the last decade on Wall Street. He was about making money. And that’s fine. But often times, he made it at the expense of jobs in communities.”

Romney officials shrug off the tough talk, arguing that there’s nothing Obama can do that will turn the campaign away from functioning as a referendum on his stewardship of the economy.

“There’s so many wonderful ironies here: Obama spent his whole political career perfecting the best argument against Bush 43, and now he’s going to run as 43?” said Romney strategist Stuart Stevens, who also worked for Bush. “They can try anything they want — but this race is going to be about the economy.”

The Democrats laying the groundwork for this strategy are well aware of its echoes. In 2004, the polarizing incumbent and his allies successfully raised doubts about the character and fitness of another stiff, wealthy patrician politician from Massachusetts with attacks on his alleged “flip-flopping” and even his war record.

“If you were to write the history of his political career, it would be called ‘Extreme Makeover,’” Axelrod said of Romney.

“What made the Bush people successful and made theirs a very smart strategy was that they pitted something deeply ingrained about Bush against something that they were trying to convince people of regarding Kerry,” said another top Obama adviser. “Specifically, they knew Bush was seen as stubborn but very firm in his beliefs. The opposite of that, of course, is not firm in your beliefs, and that’s how they portrayed Kerry from early on. It was a nice, sharp contrast.”

Obama’s team won’t portray the incumbent as stubborn but principled. Voters can expect to see a portrait of a president making the difficult decisions in tough times set against an opponent they’ll claim has bent, like the windsurfing Kerry, with the breeze. And they may do it before Romney has even formally wrapped up the nomination in the event he ends up on a glide path to the GOP nomination.

“When it’s clear we have an opponent in our eyes and in the eyes of public, we’re going to be in that discussion,” the Obama adviser said.

They don’t have a choice. Even Obama’s top aides don’t expect unemployment to be below eight percent when next November rolls around.

“When you have these difficult economic circumstances, everybody is going to have to make a choice,” said the Obama adviser. “We’re going to have to color both sides of that choice.”

Romney, currently the front-runner for the Republican nomination, isn’t the candidate Democrats would most like to face. That honor goes to former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin or Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, vocal conservatives who may not be able to reach swing voters. Romney’s moderate record as the one-term governor of a liberal state — the target of conservative rivals’ criticism — could also make him a strong general election candidate.

Obama officials, however, believe they’ll have more grist for their flip-flop line of attack after the primary because Romney will eventually have to veer right to convince the GOP base he can be trusted with the nomination.

“He’s going to take some unpopular, right-wing stands,” said an adviser. “That was one of the main things that hung McCain up — how he had to go through the nominating process.”

Democrats say it’s Romney’s decade-plus of political maneuvering to win a Massachusetts Senate seat, the governorship and the White House that collectively will be his undoing.

“There’s a question of public character,” said Axelrod. “Are you principled, consistent — are you who you say you are? Can you be counted on?”

The character attacks on Romney will focus on what critics view as a makeover, both personal (skinny jeans) and political (abortion).

“People already knew that he’s a political opportunist of the highest order — changing his positions to suit the day’s polling,” said Bill Burton, Obama’s former White House deputy press secretary who now heads Priorities USA, an independent group expected to lead Democratic attacks on the Republican nominee. “But the last couple weeks, this lack of principles has translated into a total lack of leadership on issues like the debt ceiling.”

Burton said his group has begun conducting polling and focus groups on perceptions of the Republican candidates and has found doubts about Romney’s character.
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Democrats also plan to amplify what Obama strategists described as the “weirdness” quotient, the sum of awkward public encounters and famous off-kilter anecdotes, first among them the tale of Romney having strapped his dog to the roof of his car.

None of the Obama advisers interviewed made any suggestion that Romney's personal qualities would be connected to his minority Mormon faith, but the step from casting Romney as a bit off to raising questions about religion may not be a large step for some of the incumbent's supporters.

And Obama officials have made “weirdness” an epithet for Romney the way they tagged John McCain “erratic” in the fall of 2008 after the Arizona senator suddenly left the campaign trail and nearly backed out of the first debate as part of an attempt to get a deal on the bailout

“Presidential campaigns are like MRIs of the soul,” said Axelrod. “When he makes jokes about being unemployed or a waitress pinching him on the butt, it does snap your head back, and you say, ‘What’s he talking about?’”

“It’s not just a matter of dodging the debate, not just a matter of flip-flopping and putting his finger to the wind — it is that he’s not comfortable in his own skin, and that gives people a sense of unease,” added a Democratic consultant expected to be involved in the reelection campaign.

An aide to Obama’s reelection campaign who declined to discuss the campaign’s strategy framed Romney’s careful positioning on the debt ceiling debate as more than a matter of policy.

“He took six different positions — and I can send you bullet points — during the debt debate and then ended up opposing an agreement that was critical to our economy,” said the aide, who followed up with a set of bullet points. “That’s certainly not the kind of economic leadership the American people are looking for.”

The attack on Romney is, to the Massachusetts Republican, nothing new. Sen. Ted Kennedy used elements of it against him in the 1994 Senate race, and his former adviser, Bob Shrum, summarized the current case this way: “You don’t know what he really believes; he’s been on both sides of issues, and by the way, he didn’t create jobs — he destroyed jobs while getting rich.”

The Democrats who are planning the assault on Romney believe they can avoid a referendum on Obama’s handling of the economy, in part, because both political parties are in such poor public favor.

Romney’s campaign is “making the assumption that the American people trust the Republicans on the economy,” said Giangreco. “People are so frustrated with the economy and so frustrated with both parties, so it’s a wash.”

“And so there’s only one thing left,” he said: “Who do I trust to do the right thing? And that’s the president.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60921_Page3.html




They're going to be pretty blindsided when Ron Paul wins the nom.

And Bain Capital is a PE firm, not VC. Not that I'd expect Politico to do anything remotely close to basic research.




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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 07:04:24 PM »
They're going to be pretty blindsided when Ron Paul wins the nom.
WHOA :o  Do you think it can happen?  I'm use to people liking him but so many saying he doesn't have a chance in hell.  I really believe he does but I'm use to others saying not.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 07:07:53 PM »
WHOA :o  Do you think it can happen?  I'm use to people liking him but so many saying he doesn't have a chance in hell.  I really believe he does but I'm use to others saying not.

Wishful thinking. Everywhere I read now I see people talking about the guy, though. And everything he's been preaching has been validated over the last few days. It's now or never for him. If he finishes 2nd or higher in Iowa I think that will get people paying attention.

He needs to be out there more, however. The Romney money machine is pretty formidable. And with Perry probably entering, Paul will need to step it up. His charisma sucks.

I don't think Romney will win the nom over Perry, regardless.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 07:16:40 PM »
Wait - bama is not going to run on his record? 

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 07:18:12 PM »
Wishful thinking. Everywhere I read now I see people talking about the guy, though. And everything he's been preaching has been validated over the last few days. It's now or never for him. If he finishes 2nd or higher in Iowa I think that will get people paying attention.

He needs to be out there more, however. The Romney money machine is pretty formidable. And with Perry probably entering, Paul will need to step it up. His charisma sucks.

I don't think Romney will win the nom over Perry, regardless.
good analysis, thanks... I don't think Paul's charisma sucks but maybe it's just because I've been listening to him so long.  I like the way he comes across calm and always talks to people and not down to people.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 07:21:07 PM »
good analysis, thanks... I don't think Paul's charisma sucks but maybe it's just because I've been listening to him so long.  I like the way he comes across calm and always talks to people and not down to people.

I agree about his charisma. I'm looking at it from the average citizen's viewpoint of an Obama or Romney or Perry, though. Deserved or not (definitely not), they have that star quality to them, which seems to matter more than anything in politics today. They're more apt to remember Obama getting up there and running off his list of lies laced with colorful rhetoric as opposed to Paul's calm and collected intellectual explanations.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 07:26:08 PM »
ron pauls problem is you actually have to pay attention to what he says. He isnt the best speaker, he reminds me of my grandpa where he knows what he wants to say just not exactly how to say it but if you listen to him he makes alot of sense.

as opposed to obama who sounds great but if you listen to him he makes absolutely no sense...LOL


sadly enough the majority of ppl in this country dont pay attention to what their saying

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 07:34:27 PM »
ron pauls problem is you actually have to pay attention to what he says. He isnt the best speaker, he reminds me of my grandpa where he knows what he wants to say just not exactly how to say it but if you listen to him he makes alot of sense.

as opposed to obama who sounds great but if you listen to him he makes absolutely no sense...LOL


sadly enough the majority of ppl in this country dont pay attention to what their saying
I'm actually going to call you on this...

Please pick one of Ron Pauls talks and tell us where he went wrong.  Pick a 5 minute or so talk and give us your points of exactly where he fucked up and why.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »
ron pauls problem is you actually have to pay attention to what he says. He isnt the best speaker, he reminds me of my grandpa where he knows what he wants to say just not exactly how to say it but if you listen to him he makes alot of sense.

as opposed to obama who sounds great but if you listen to him he makes absolutely no sense...LOL


sadly enough the majority of ppl in this country dont pay attention to what their saying
I actually thought he lays out things in a very clear and easy to understand way and without sounding like he's talking down to people like some politicians do.  I'm really going to call you out on this, please take me up on my challenge and pick any spot with Paul and pick it apart.  I want to see exactly what you're talking about because I don't see it.

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 08:04:05 PM »
I actually thought he lays out things in a very clear and easy to understand way and without sounding like he's talking down to people like some politicians do.  I'm really going to call you out on this, please take me up on my challenge and pick any spot with Paul and pick it apart.  I want to see exactly what you're talking about because I don't see it.


Here is the problem, the average dolt is not discerning or interested enough to listen to a long winded response.     Especially when we are dealing with Obama.   

To beat obama you have to attack him like a blitzkrieg against his horrific policies and results. 

Rp needs to come out like a banshee. 

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 09:17:14 PM »
This has been OBVIOUS for the last week.

Lots of left pundits with the same talking points - romney is weird.  not mormon - weird.

One liberal guest on hardball has "casually" mentioned viewers should google the "who let the dogs out" video where romney looked very awkward.

They want to make it an election of "cool", since Obama is smooth and cocky, and Romney is about as stiff as they come.  Remember - swing voters often ignore issues and vote for the guy they'd rather have a beer with.....

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »
This has been OBVIOUS for the last week.

Lots of left pundits with the same talking points - romney is weird.  not mormon - weird.

One liberal guest on hardball has "casually" mentioned viewers should google the "who let the dogs out" video where romney looked very awkward.

They want to make it an election of "cool", since Obama is smooth and cocky, and Romney is about as stiff as they come.  Remember - swing voters often ignore issues and vote for the guy they'd rather have a beer with.....


Won't work in 2012 for the messiah. 

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 09:20:11 PM »

Won't work in 2012 for the messiah. 

he can't run on issues.  so he can run on being a better cheerleader, a better guy you wanna hang out with.

you can't deny some ppl vote for the cooler person.  we saw it in 2008.

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 09:24:34 PM »
he can't run on issues.  so he can run on being a better cheerleader, a better guy you wanna hang out with.

you can't deny some ppl vote for the cooler person.  we saw it in 2008.

Yes, but many have the bitter taste of betrayal in their mouth with MaoBama.

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 10:10:13 PM »
I actually thought he lays out things in a very clear and easy to understand way and without sounding like he's talking down to people like some politicians do.  I'm really going to call you out on this, please take me up on my challenge and pick any spot with Paul and pick it apart.  I want to see exactly what you're talking about because I don't see it.


Ron does much better on tv interviews then he does on debates for some reason. If he could convey his message as well as he does in some interviews it bolster his chances big time.

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 10:59:17 PM »

Ron does much better on tv interviews then he does on debates for some reason. If he could convey his message as well as he does in some interviews it bolster his chances big time.
I don't think he does bad in debates, rather he gets railroaded in debates.  They ask questions that require background that they know he can't provide in the time alloted.  In the interview he has a little more time to give some background.  They design the questions in debates to make Paul look bad.  And yet he still gets cheered on.  There's something very right about Ron Paul that cannot be dennied and the media has sure tried their asses off to bury this guy.

Considering how they've tried to screw him in debates, he hasn't done that bad.

seriously, go back and watch the questions they give to the other candidates.  They're questions that don't need a background to understand and the candidate can just spit out their pre planned shit.  Now listen to the questions given to Ron Paul and ask if they're the same level of easy answer.  They hardball Ron Paul and give the stuff in the current national debate to the others.  That is if they even let him in the debate lol...

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 05:59:44 AM »
The messiah Obama doesn't sound good at all in his speeches.  It is so obvious he just reads a teleprompter that the puppetmasters write for him.  His voice is boring and monotone and he has no emotion when he speaks. 

Ron Paul is much better speaker and actually makes sense when he talks.  He doesn't use doublespeak like the rest of the politicians out there.
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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 06:00:06 AM »
Romney is going to have a very hard time getting the Bible Belt to vote for him which is the Red States.  Obama's campaign isn't going to attack him directly about it but those 502 groups are going to rip him a new asshole on him being a Mormon.

It would be better if Ron Paul or Rick Perry to win the nomination for the GOP because they would not have that problem.  People have seen past electing a black president but electing a non-Christian is another thing.  The GOP has been waving the Christian flag for decades and at rallies and if Romney wins the nomination, they are going to have to do a complete 360.
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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 06:06:32 AM »
Romney is going to have a very hard time getting the Bible Belt to vote for him which is the Red States.  Obama's campaign isn't going to attack him directly about it but those 502 groups are going to rip him a new asshole on him being a Mormon.

It would be better if Ron Paul or Rick Perry to win the nomination for the GOP because they would not have that problem.  People have seen past electing a black president but electing a non-Christian is another thing.  The GOP has been waving the Christian flag for decades and at rallies and if Romney wins the nomination, they are going to have to do a complete 360.
that's true, the bible belt will have a problem with romney, but they will vote for him over Obama so I'm not sure that matters much.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 06:12:08 AM »
that's true, the bible belt will have a problem with romney, but they will vote for him over Obama so I'm not sure that matters much.


Most people in 2012 are going to walk over broken to glass to oust obama.   

Other than blacks, a few guilt ridden whites, a few dope addicts in college, some college professors and govt workers, he has no one left.   

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2011, 06:40:37 AM »
I actually thought he lays out things in a very clear and easy to understand way and without sounding like he's talking down to people like some politicians do.  I'm really going to call you out on this, please take me up on my challenge and pick any spot with Paul and pick it apart.  I want to see exactly what you're talking about because I don't see it.
i either didnt explain myself well enough or you misunderstood. Pauls points are spot on for the most part, I do believe he is a little niave in terms of foreign policy though...I like his viewpoint but it just isnt very realistic.

my point is the tone and flow of his answers and speechs arent up to par with other orators like obama, romney, perry etc...

by far the best answers just not the best delivery, and most ppl sadly arent listening to the answers just the delivery.

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Re: Obama's 2012 campaign plan: Destroy Romney
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 06:55:05 AM »
i either didnt explain myself well enough or you misunderstood. Pauls points are spot on for the most part, I do believe he is a little niave in terms of foreign policy though...I like his viewpoint but it just isnt very realistic.

my point is the tone and flow of his answers and speechs arent up to par with other orators like obama, romney, perry etc...

by far the best answers just not the best delivery, and most ppl sadly arent listening to the answers just the delivery.
good enough recovery..  I won't hold your feet to the fire lol...