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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2011, 11:18:15 PM »
Maybe do some bloodwork?

6 months is a long time..

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2011, 11:52:06 PM »
i'm curious, do you think this is really the problem?  do you think that, if i injected hormones, my muscles would come to life instead of remaining these cold, lifeless lumps?  i'm curious because i believe my problem is abnormal.  i don't think most people need injections just to feel basic pumps and be able to exert themselves on the same level they could three years ago (when i had pretty much just entered my 20s).  am i wrong about this?

thanks everyone for the advice so far.  i liked okami's post particularly.



Go to your GP and ask for Lab work. Ask to have total Testosterone and HGH levels checked (along with EVERYTHING else) ~ this will help you determine what the problem is. It may be a thryroid shutdown, depression, low test, all of the above... who knows?

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2011, 02:06:15 AM »
How's your libido?

Low testosterone makes you feel depressed, have crappy workouts, sore joints, always tired and get sick easily.

Maybe you're working so hard that you're suppressing your natural hormonal rhythms. I'm a victim of that also.

Try working out 3 days per week. Like Mon, Wed, Fri. Stay away from the gym the other days. And when you do workout aim for a pump and don't focus on how much weight you're lifting at all. After a few weeks of that you might be okay to start ramping up the intensity again.


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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2011, 08:28:17 AM »
Maybe you just feel a natural need to become smarter, feed your brain, spirituality, instead of your body in vain hoping to obtain things that never materialize... or evaporate quickly once you get them.

Maybe you should just read more. We re not just bodies. A starved mind that has been fed with crap for months, years, needs healthy food, too. Good , balanced food.

Lol at the morons saying "huh..eeer... you not like lifting weights anymore? huhh...eeeeeer... take testosterone HUH" ...

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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2011, 08:37:51 AM »
I've totally crashed.  I have no idea why.  Maybe from 8 years of abusive, bodybuilding style workouts?  I've tried everything over the last two or three years, but the workouts have only gotten worse and worse.  Every once in a while I'll have one halfway decent workout, and then another two weeks or a month of utter failure -- no pump, no muscle sensation at all, no soreness.  I no longer feel like I'm even exercising in the gym.  I can understand a lack of progress in terms of increasing lean mass or decreasing bodyfat -- that's to be expected. But when you set foot in the gym and walk out an hour later without even breaking a sweat or pumping any blood into the muscle, no matter how hard you try, and nothing to show for it but a creeping ache in your joints, what's the point?  I don't even feel healthy.

Last night i went for a jog, nothing serious, about 30 minutes at a nice, even pace.  It felt atrocious on my hip flexors (never had that problem before), and i just got the impression my body was broken and worn down.  But it did allow me to feel good about myself, a little bit.  It DID feel like i was exercising, like i was working to maintaining some semblance of health.

So, I got to thinking, should I just put down the weights for a while, and jog a little to satisfy my instinct for exercise?  I never wanted it to come to this, but I truly feel as if I've exhausted every other option short of loading up on hormones (which I'm not going to do).  I finally feel as if I've tried everything.  I've looked into form, posture, stretching, volume/intensity/exercise selection, different diets, mobility work, everything I can think of, and none of it seems to help.  The only remaining option I can see is to take time completely off, and seeing if my body heals on its own.

I'm a little scared to do this, because as miserable as I am now, I do at least have a decent physique, which I don't want to lose completely.  But as it is, I'm just grinding through three utterly sad and ineffective workouts a week, which don't even stimulate me.  I suppose at this point I think it's worth the risk to see if time off can help me; if it can't, then I'm just in for a slow, sad slide into shit-physique-ville anyway.

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone else?  Has anyone else had a similar experience at some point?

You need to give more info.

Did you meet a new girl around the same time?  new Job?  Anything in your life change?
How about hormones? Were you on anything?  The fact is that men don't have a gradual decline of testosterone.  You go from high to low pretty fast and that crash sucks and it comes with age.  Try TRT.  You don't need a gram of test a week to feel normal again.  200 mg a week of Test Cyp can put a bounce back in your step.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2011, 08:48:38 AM »
You need to give more info.

Did you meet a new girl around the same time?  new Job?  Anything in your life change?
How about hormones? Were you on anything?  The fact is that men don't have a gradual decline of testosterone.  You go from high to low pretty fast and that crash sucks and it comes with age.  Try TRT.  You don't need a gram of test a week to feel normal again.  200 mg a week of Test Cyp can put a bounce back in your step.



Holy shit.


So you re aging, that's not normal... take hormones. To stay the top dog, to stay in the competition, to stay young...forever...

typical of the materialist and hedonist mentality of most occidentals nowadays who lost faith , spirituality. They re devolving into animals and dont want to grow up the hard , normal way.
While you morons inject steroids and stay immature, dont want to face existential questions and flee them in addictions, cutting yourself progressively from significant people in the process over time, how do other people manage to survive without drugs, illusions,  and accept life as it is ?


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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2011, 08:54:33 AM »


Holy shit.


So you re aging, that's not normal... take hormones. To stay the top dog, to stay in the competition, to stay young...forever...

typical of the materialist and hedonist mentality of most occidentals nowadays who lost faith , spirituality. They re devolving into animals and dont want to grow up the hard , normal way.
While you morons inject steroids and stay immature, dont want to face existential questions and flee them in addictions, cutting yourself progressively from significant people in the process over time, how do other people manage to survive without drugs, illusions,  and accept life as it is ?



uberman, did you ever read Yukio Mishima, in particular his "bodybuilding book", Sun and Steel?
I'd be interested in hearing you do a psychological profile on him, based on that book.  ;D

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2011, 08:56:48 AM »
3 days a week, 1-1+1/2 hours a week: all you need, naturally at least
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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2011, 09:00:20 AM »
Solution for cephissus: 500mg test a week with 20mg dbol day for 2 weeks before going back to the gym.
No training but the best diet possible. Would be back bigger, leaner, stronger than ever... feeling like a million bucks.  :D

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2011, 09:01:56 AM »

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone else?  Has anyone else had a similar experience at some point?

try some mma

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2011, 07:43:32 AM »
For the last 3 years (after a two year lay off) I start training from the end of March until the middle of August with strict diet and very little test. Then come September until March (about 7 months) I take it off completely, I don't touch a weight and eat as much as I want and enjoy life. My body responds so well to this system and I have the muscle maturity to get all the gains back and my body has never looked better. It takes me 16 weeks every year too look like this and my strength is always great.

The answer: It's all about genetics and that's it.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2011, 05:25:55 PM »
You need to give more info.

Did you meet a new girl around the same time?  new Job?  Anything in your life change?
How about hormones? Were you on anything?  The fact is that men don't have a gradual decline of testosterone.  You go from high to low pretty fast and that crash sucks and it comes with age.  Try TRT.  You don't need a gram of test a week to feel normal again.  200 mg a week of Test Cyp can put a bounce back in your step.

interesting about the crash, i haven't heard about that before.  sounds like it could be the cause of my troubles, but again this really only kicked in once i was 22 or so. i'm a little busy right now but will respond to this thread later.  thanks everyone for the advice!

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2011, 05:34:50 PM »
I've totally crashed.  I have no idea why.  Maybe from 8 years of abusive, bodybuilding style workouts?  I've tried everything over the last two or three years, but the workouts have only gotten worse and worse.  Every once in a while I'll have one halfway decent workout, and then another two weeks or a month of utter failure -- no pump, no muscle sensation at all, no soreness.  I no longer feel like I'm even exercising in the gym.  I can understand a lack of progress in terms of increasing lean mass or decreasing bodyfat -- that's to be expected. But when you set foot in the gym and walk out an hour later without even breaking a sweat or pumping any blood into the muscle, no matter how hard you try, and nothing to show for it but a creeping ache in your joints, what's the point?  I don't even feel healthy.

Last night i went for a jog, nothing serious, about 30 minutes at a nice, even pace.  It felt atrocious on my hip flexors (never had that problem before), and i just got the impression my body was broken and worn down.  But it did allow me to feel good about myself, a little bit.  It DID feel like i was exercising, like i was working to maintaining some semblance of health.

So, I got to thinking, should I just put down the weights for a while, and jog a little to satisfy my instinct for exercise?  I never wanted it to come to this, but I truly feel as if I've exhausted every other option short of loading up on hormones (which I'm not going to do).  I finally feel as if I've tried everything.  I've looked into form, posture, stretching, volume/intensity/exercise selection, different diets, mobility work, everything I can think of, and none of it seems to help.  The only remaining option I can see is to take time completely off, and seeing if my body heals on its own.

I'm a little scared to do this, because as miserable as I am now, I do at least have a decent physique, which I don't want to lose completely.  But as it is, I'm just grinding through three utterly sad and ineffective workouts a week, which don't even stimulate me.  I suppose at this point I think it's worth the risk to see if time off can help me; if it can't, then I'm just in for a slow, sad slide into shit-physique-ville anyway.

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone else?  Has anyone else had a similar experience at some point?

dont listen to any other responses except mine...

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2011, 05:47:54 PM »
For the last 3 years (after a two year lay off) I start training from the end of March until the middle of August with strict diet and very little test. Then come September until March (about 7 months) I take it off completely, I don't touch a weight and eat as much as I want and enjoy life. My body responds so well to this system and I have the muscle maturity to get all the gains back and my body has never looked better. It takes me 16 weeks every year too look like this and my strength is always great.

The answer: It's all about genetics and that's it.

2010 results




2011





Have you ever thought about moving up from pilates?

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2011, 05:52:58 PM »
interesting about the crash, i haven't heard about that before.  sounds like it could be the cause of my troubles, but again this really only kicked in once i was 22 or so. i'm a little busy right now but will respond to this thread later.  thanks everyone for the advice!
sounds like you need to do some falcon experimentation

where every moment you have the opportunity to expend energy matters, because you either have it in your or you dont

like everyone you deserve the wisdom of the falcon but you gotta break out the math tables and document what you think works

however i have already done that for you and can tell you nothing really works, just consume alot of calories be happy with being bulky

you can starve with caffiene and be shredded but that only leads to caffiene addiction


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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2011, 05:55:39 PM »


Holy shit.


So you re aging, that's not normal... take hormones. To stay the top dog, to stay in the competition, to stay young...forever...

typical of the materialist and hedonist mentality of most occidentals nowadays who lost faith , spirituality. They re devolving into animals and dont want to grow up the hard , normal way.
While you morons inject steroids and stay immature, dont want to face existential questions and flee them in addictions, cutting yourself progressively from significant people in the process over time, how do other people manage to survive without drugs, illusions,  and accept life as it is ?



x1000

lots of morons will tell Cephissius to juice up

dude would be better off  learning science or a new way to engage lipolysis through technology. break out the math tables and science books IMMEDIATLEY
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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2011, 06:25:03 PM »
like chris rock say

"doctors cant even cure athletes foots, what makes you think they can help you"
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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 06:29:36 PM »
Quit it all if you want but at 24 you are not over the hill. You're just burnt out and demotivated. Try spending a few months doing lots more cardio and sticking with bodyweight exercises. Then see if you want to hit the big weights again.  Inability to get a pump, lack of motivation, lack of progress...these aren't exactly unknown and they point in one direction.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 06:38:13 PM »
Sound overtrained. A good 3-4 months rest will do you a world of good.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2011, 06:57:39 PM »
haha thanks for your replies falcon, they always brighten my day!

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2011, 06:58:57 PM »
Quit it all if you want but at 24 you are not over the hill. You're just burnt out and demotivated. Try spending a few months doing lots more cardio and sticking with bodyweight exercises. Then see if you want to hit the big weights again.  Inability to get a pump, lack of motivation, lack of progress...these aren't exactly unknown and they point in one direction.



which direction is that?  steroids?  is this why everyone jumps on?  i mean, i would have been satisfied with where i was at, if only my workouts didn't completely suck and make me feel like shit, instead of healthy and lively like they used to.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2011, 07:19:23 PM »
Maybe you just feel a natural need to become smarter, feed your brain, spirituality, instead of your body in vain hoping to obtain things that never materialize... or evaporate quickly once you get them.

Maybe you should just read more. We re not just bodies. A starved mind that has been fed with crap for months, years, needs healthy food, too. Good , balanced food.

Lol at the morons saying "huh..eeer... you not like lifting weights anymore? huhh...eeeeeer... take testosterone HUH" ...

i would agree, but i feel a similar frustration mentally.  it's like nothing ever sticks in my head anymore, and i'm getting stupider every day haha.  whenever i had a great workout i would feel very smart and quick witted until the next one.

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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2011, 08:11:17 PM »
Take a month off, quit "bodybuilding" and start lifting weights.
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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2011, 10:58:07 PM »
thanks  ???  ;D

 post a picture of your face and if it is even comparable to mine ill quit getbig forever  :) btw, im bisexual cuz the society i grew up in didnt make man-on man sex a negative thing in my eyes, and i was heavily influenced by my mother and sister in my behavior and attitude, leading me to appreciate male qualities as a female does and only seeing positives associated with gay sex i came to desire it. your attempts of psychoanalysis are so futile and unsophisticated and that is why i always berate you. my girlfriend has big fat ass and a tiny little waist and the face of an african princess.  :-* suck it

 ::)this is complete bullshit Tbombz and you know it. Lots of us grew up around sisters and sisters friends etc. So yes, I see what your saying in that with time you can learn to appreciate male qualities but that does not mean you become gay. I love women always have always will. Does that mean I cant admit another dude is handsome? no. does it mean i cant admire another guys physique? no. Hell I even made a thread saying Kevin Levrone is a beautifulman, remember ;D? . Blaming your sexual behavior years down the road, on the people who raised you is pathetic.  Really its almost similar to a lack of willpower. Your binge eating, your lack of ability to stick to a diet, etc.

 your one of the few really good dudes on here,   but you need some help. Maybe you should listen to someone once in your life instead of coming across as a knowitall...you may suprise yourself.
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Re: No weightlifting for 6 months... good idea?
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2011, 11:45:40 PM »
I've totally crashed.  I have no idea why.  Maybe from 8 years of abusive, bodybuilding style workouts?  I've tried everything over the last two or three years, but the workouts have only gotten worse and worse.  Every once in a while I'll have one halfway decent workout, and then another two weeks or a month of utter failure -- no pump, no muscle sensation at all, no soreness.  I no longer feel like I'm even exercising in the gym.  I can understand a lack of progress in terms of increasing lean mass or decreasing bodyfat -- that's to be expected. But when you set foot in the gym and walk out an hour later without even breaking a sweat or pumping any blood into the muscle, no matter how hard you try, and nothing to show for it but a creeping ache in your joints, what's the point?  I don't even feel healthy.

Last night i went for a jog, nothing serious, about 30 minutes at a nice, even pace.  It felt atrocious on my hip flexors (never had that problem before), and i just got the impression my body was broken and worn down.  But it did allow me to feel good about myself, a little bit.  It DID feel like i was exercising, like i was working to maintaining some semblance of health.

So, I got to thinking, should I just put down the weights for a while, and jog a little to satisfy my instinct for exercise?  I never wanted it to come to this, but I truly feel as if I've exhausted every other option short of loading up on hormones (which I'm not going to do).  I finally feel as if I've tried everything.  I've looked into form, posture, stretching, volume/intensity/exercise selection, different diets, mobility work, everything I can think of, and none of it seems to help.  The only remaining option I can see is to take time completely off, and seeing if my body heals on its own.

I'm a little scared to do this, because as miserable as I am now, I do at least have a decent physique, which I don't want to lose completely.  But as it is, I'm just grinding through three utterly sad and ineffective workouts a week, which don't even stimulate me.  I suppose at this point I think it's worth the risk to see if time off can help me; if it can't, then I'm just in for a slow, sad slide into shit-physique-ville anyway.

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone else?  Has anyone else had a similar experience at some point?

Open Google, search for "over training". Forget these stupid assholes, they are just children, you can't get good advice from these idiots. Long rest is best cure for this, but searching information helps you decide what more you can do.

When I hit the same wall, it take whole year to get back in to business, meaning the point where I was before the crash. You must take it easy, no hurry and you will be good. You will feel when you are ready to go back to gym, and meanwhile you have good time to think your training all over again. I was doing four split with heavy duty type- training without any light weeks, and it put me on my knees. While resting, I study other ways to do it, and I find out that with three split I can go as heavy as I want to week by week without any problems. Four years training before the crash +10 after it tells me that I find right answer for me. Another point is that earlier I was going straight by the program, when I start over I concentrate for the body part, and choose exercises in the moment. I don't really plan my training, I play by the ear, I am feeling good and my PB's are steadily rising.