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[The_Iron_Disciple]

* I'll try and sum this up quickly *

Started my first cycle roughly two months ago ( Test E / D-Bol ). First vial of Test dosed at 250 mg was painless every shot. Sometimes I'd even wonder the next day if I even shot myself. Lol. Btw, I was shootin' 1cc e5d.


Now onto the second vial dosed at 300 mg. EVERY shot gave me some significant pain for 3-4 days, however, after the 3-4 days, I was back to normal ... except for this last time. Did 2cc's this last Friday ( 600 mg's ) and felt fine. Woke up Sat. with my left ass cheek inflammed to high hell. Was hard as a rock and very hot as well as very painful to touch. Not only that, but I was runnin' a fever from hell. Sooo ... I apply cold compresses Sat. and attempt to sleep it off. Sunday comes, the " hard painful cheek " is still there and the fever is slowly dissapaitin'. Monday comes and the fever is gone. The swelling goes down, too, due to the heat pad I had used Sunday night. Hopefully, you guys are still followin' me here ??


So after ALL this BULLSHIT, I go to the hospital. With NO INSURANCE, mind you. This was yesterday, btw. Hospital draws blood from me, gives me a Cat Scan, draws some more blood, gives me some anti-biotics, etc. etc. Doc comes in and says, " We're not sure what it is. CS shows a small ball of fluid inside the inflammed area that may or may not be an abscess. So, we are going to give you some medicine, have you back in 24 hrs., and decide what to do next. We may have to put you on the cutting table. "


THIS FUCKIN' SUCKS ! My FIRST cycle, too. I've followed ALL injection protocols to the T. I don't understand how this could've happened, bro's. Which is why I'm here. The thing that sucks the most is I had went from 248 to 270 in that time and it was VERY noticeable. Now I'm just depressed and afraid to inject again. Could really use some help here. Thoughts, opinions, etc.


Btw, told Doc, when he asked, that I injected B12. After that I received a lecture from BOTH the Doc and RN about injections. Told me I got get a staph infec. from one and die instantly. So, yeah ... I'm thoroughly fuckin' depressed. I inject myself the SAME way EVERY time. Never had an issues. *

[nosleep]

IT'S WHAT THE TESTOSTERONE OIL IS BREWED IN. ITS NOT UR LACK OF INJECTIN PROTOCOLS, ITS THE BASE OF THE TEST. GET A BETTER  BRAND WORTH OR GO FOR HG IF IT'S TESTOSTERONA.

[Rearden Metal]

ASPIRATE

Had a friend recently with good gear who failed to aspirate, then shot a bolus into and around a vein that ended up being 5 cc's of blood and bolus that needed draining. Wasn't an abcess yet because he went right to the ER.

[lesaucer]

whats the brand of your gear and what type of oil is used?  probably got bad non sterile gear bro

[The_Iron_Disciple]

@ NoSleep - Interesting post. Had never looked at it that way before. Have been told to use HG, however, very hard for ME to find one. May just have to bite the bullet, go online, and buy. I don't know. :/


@ RM - Thing is, I do aspirate. Each and EVERY time. I always pull back on the plunger before I inject. And every time that I've done so, I've got nothin' but tiny little bubbles comin' back into the syringe. No blood.

[nosleep]

WHY DO YOU BUY IN PERSON AND WHY IS IT CONSIDERED SAFER?

ONLINE U CAN BUY..IF UR CAUGHT, U LIE AND SAY MISTAKE.

IF U BUY IN PERSON, U CANT LIE...UR DEALER PHYSICALLY KNOWS U.

PLUS IT MAY CHEAPER.

[Overload]

You could be having a reaction to the oil or the BA content if it is UG.

I had something similar happen with a delt shot many years ago and it went away on its own. I couldn't even lift my arm over my head for a week.

You did the right thing by going to a Doctor. The staph infection bullshit they fed you was just something to scare you away from using needles on yourself again. Most doctors use scare tactics to keep people from injecting themselves for obvious reasons.

You either have really bad luck or got some shit gear. Either way take your meds and try to relax about it.

[kevcat]

You weigh 270lbs? Pics? 

[The_Iron_Disciple]

** Update **


Got out of the hospital yesterday. You should've seen the look on the doctor's faces when I told them I injected B12. LOLOLOL !!! And, of course, I was asked 6-7 times if I used steroids. And each and every time I, obviously, said no. Anyways, they threw me on a bunch of anti-biotics ( Kefleen ( sp. ? ) and Bactrin ( sp. ? ) ) and shit. The swelling has went down and the abcess doesn't hurt as much. I was also told to NOT inject in my left glute for the next 3 months.


GODDAMNIT MOTHERFUCK !!! I say that because I have no insurance and GOD ONLY KNOWS how much i'm going to be fucked for. * sigh * Oh, well. You gots to pay to play .....




@ Lesaucer - Cottonseed oil. The 250 mg bottle had the same type oil and EVERY inject was pain-free.


@ NoSleep - I'm going to buy online from now on. Until I find a SOLID source, anyways.


@ Overload - That's what I'm thinkin', too. A reaction to the oil. Is it because of the vial being 300 mg per shot instead of 250 ?? More BA for the 300 ?? And, yes, the Docs were rather pissed at me. LOL.


@ Kevcat - I don't do pics. LOL. Sorry. Besides, that's 270 at around 14 % bodyfat. I'm not ripped by any means. But not fat either.

[Jack T. Cross]

Iron_Disciple...I thought you were once a mod on this board (?)

[Van_Bilderass]

That sucks. That's not how a first cycle should be. Try to look at it positively, it could have been worse. 


I've been lucky that I haven't had an abscess so far. And I only know one guy who did; he said he shot some IP gear into his arm. Now he has a nasty scar there... they sliced it up and kept packing it with gauze until it healed.
A couple of months ago my delt swelled up and felt hard as a rock.
I was a bit freaked but since the delt wasn't hot or red I tried to calm myself down, to wait and see. It went away in a few days, luckily. Yes it was UG gear... I figured it wasn't infection due to bacteria so I used up the rest of the bottle without problems, though I put less of it in one place. Cut it with HG test too.

gh15 knows a lot about abscesses, maybe he could chime in. I know he thinks some docs like to slice up people unnesessarily.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

@ Jack - Ummm, no. I was a Mod of the Positive Bb'ing board. But then I got tired of being positive and de-moted myself. Lol.


@ VanB - Yeah, Van, the docs seemed pretty damn excited about cuttin' in to me. And I'm being serious. They just kept grillin' and grillin' me about the 'roids. Oh, and they gave me a Tetanus shot, too ! Can't even lift my left arm ! LOL ! Sick bastards !

[Jack T. Cross]

@ Jack - Ummm, no. I was a Mod of the Positive Bb'ing board. But then I got tired of being positive and de-moted myself. Lol.

Haha..Yes, I remember now.

[Arnold jr]

It could've been a reaction to the oil itself but it's highly unlikely. Cottonseed oil is generally a very safe oil to use. It's more than likely just the brand you're using and by more than likely I'd say the odds are near 100%. You have two bottles and if they're from the same UG line yet different batches, which they obviously were you could easily have problems with one and not the other. I also doubt high BA content was the culprit...this was simply dirty gear IMO. Even if only slightly impure some guys will simply have a bad reaction while others won't.

On another note, next time you go to the doctor or ER for something like this you should tell them exactly what you've been taking. It's not against the law and they can't arrest you if you tell them you've been taking steroids but they need to know what's in your body if they're going to treat it correctly.

Anyway, I've had the exact same thing happen to me on my right glute many years ago and it was miserable! As a younger and dumber individual at the time I "self-drained" it every day for 2wks 2 per day. I stuck it 3x each draining with an 18g needle and drained out 3cc of the nastiest yellow puss you've ever seen and then stood in the shower and let the 3 holes bleed out to relieve pressure. It hurt like nothing else each time I did this but did provide relief in the end. Anyway, I call this "stupid" now in retrospect because I could have easily made things worse with a more serious infection.

Long and short, I've had some painful injections post injection, the glute one just mentioned was the worst ever but I've had some like Overload talked about in my shoulders and each and every time it was from crappy UG product. I've never, not once had a problem from one single injection of human grade gear of any oil based nature.

[nosleep]

THERE ARE A TON OF GREAT SOURCES FOR HG TEST.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Thanks for the replies, guys. A lot of good info there, Arnold. It really does seem like dirty gear since EVERY damn shot hurt to high hell. Oh well. :/

Yeah, Jack, it totally sucks regardin' the bill. But what can you do ?? I'm close to goin' full-time at my job, anyways. I just hope it's within the next 90 days ! LOLOL !!!


Anyways, I know I what I MUST do now. And that's find HG gear !!!! Or find myself, as Gh15 would say, a good cook !! FUCK UG unless it get's reviews that make it sound like it's the next comin' of christ !

[tbombz]

it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle. 

[lesaucer]

it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle. 

yea it happens sometime, big red bump and hot, it hurts too and when that happen i take my multi, vit-c overload and sleep alot, after 3-4days its gone

[tbag]

stick to HG test man.you will have little bother with it.when you can get it take it.    although in saying that my online source closed and now looking at getting some shitty UGL stuff localy which i hear is good but id rather HG every time .

[makaveli25]

Dude why did you go to the hopspital so quick. Take advil and let it go away on it's own! If It doesn't in a week then worry. To late now.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle. 

Sooo ... hypothetical. If I shot 600 mg. of HG instead of UG I STILL would've had the same issue

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Dude why did you go to the hopspital so quick. Take advil and let it go away on it's own! If It doesn't in a week then worry. To late now.

Dude, I took a SHITLOAD of Ibuprofen and still felt like shit. On top of that, I was runnin' a high ass fever followed with cold chills and tremendous pain. I HAD to go to the hospital, man. I couldn't even sit down or even lie down comfortably due to the inflammation.

[Jack T. Cross]

it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle. 

Damn, that sounds pretty sensible.  I don't know enough to say whether it could be true, lol, but it's good diagnostic thinking as far as the mechanics go.

[Jack T. Cross]

Yeah, Jack, it totally sucks regardin' the bill. But what can you do ?? I'm close to goin' full-time at my job, anyways. I just hope it's within the next 90 days ! LOLOL !!!

I know you were in pain and needed immediate relief, but it may have been worth it to find a so-called "free clinic".  These are places that will ask you to sign a form stating that you're uninsured, and will treat an uninsured person without charge.  When it comes to lower level emergency care like infections, etc., they're the best bet.

Anyways, I know I what I MUST do now. And that's find HG gear !!!! Or find myself, as Gh15 would say, a good cook !! FUCK UG unless it get's reviews that make it sound like it's the next comin' of christ !

That's a good idea.  But you'll be having to fend against counterfeit shit like never before.  You will be going crazy trying to verify whether you got legitimate product.  lol 

No one said it would be easy, I guess.

[outby43]

it was the fact that you put 600mg of steroid into your ass cheek on your first cycle. that little bolus of liquid is your 2'cc's of gear, not an abcess. your muscle became inflamed around the area because of crystallization of the hormone into the muscle.  

x2 happened to me.  Hurts bad for a few days.

Shoot the quads.