Author Topic: ROMNEY: "Corporations are People, My Friends" Video LOLOLOL (Read 10777 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:31:56 PM »

While techincally true, he really flubbed that.

MM2K · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:05:52 PM »

What was so wrong about what he said? Its true. How did he fuck it up? Hey, I liked Romney here. And those of you conservatives criticising him for being "wish washy" and "flip flopping" should have been proud of him in this clip.

Romney right now is my pick for the nominee. He has all the tools. He states the truth where it is most important to state it, and he backs off from making full fledged statements when it becomes politically necessary.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:46:49 PM »

He's right. Corporate profits go to shareholders.

240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:49:45 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 11, 2011, 02:31:56 PM

I'd rather have unprotected anal sex with the Top 6 from the Mr O lineup than vote Obama in 2012.

GigantorX · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:05:46 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 11, 2011, 03:49:45 PM

blacken700 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:29:44 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 11, 2011, 03:49:45 PM

I'd rather have unprotected anal sex with the Top 6 from the Mr O lineup than vote Obama in 2012

OzmO · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:40:22 PM »

Corporations are not people.

If shareholders want to contribute they can do it individually.

Allowing corporations to unlimitedly contribute to campaigns will end up being one of the many things contribute to the downfall of the middle-class and this country.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:41:26 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on August 11, 2011, 04:40:22 PM

Corporations are not people.

If shareholders want to contribute they can do it individually.

Allowing corporations to unlimitedly contribute to campaigns will end up being one of the many things contribute to the downfall of the middle-class and this country.

Not true - legally corporations are considered people for many legal purposes.

OzmO · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:50:13 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 11, 2011, 04:41:26 PM

Not true - legally corporations are considered people for many legal purposes.

Legally Obama is POTuS. BF-fucking-D

Legally you are allow to shave camels on Sunday in Alabama BF-fucking-D

Whether a coporation is considered a person for legal purposes in other matters has little to do with the absolute fact that a coporation is not a person. And therefore should not have the power to fund campaigns.

But it's all good if outfits like Goldman and Sachs force the issues with money during election right?

Or it's good and personable when corporations fund candidates that will never ever vote for bills to penalize corporations from out sourcing right?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:53:35 PM »

Nice rant. But you are still wrong.

OzmO · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:55:01 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 11, 2011, 04:53:35 PM

Nice rant. But you are still wrong.

Wrong about what? That a corporation doesn't have a heart and brain and born of a woman?

OzmO · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:56:24 PM »

Basically what Romney is saying is that he'll bend over for any corporation that gives him money.

You might as well call him Obama jr.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:58:43 PM »

He was restating what is existing law that law students learn in 2l

OzmO · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:03:50 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 11, 2011, 04:58:43 PM

He was restating what is existing law that law students learn in 2l

Well that's nice and dandy. So what? I am glad you are demonstrating your schooling here.

For the purpose of some areas of law and legal issues I understand why corporations are condsidered people.

But for the purposes of representative government they should not be at all. ZERO

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:07:17 PM »

Why?

Skip8282 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:09:17 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on August 11, 2011, 04:50:13 PM

Legally Obama is POTuS. BF-fucking-D

Legally you are allow to shave camels on Sunday in Alabama BF-fucking-D

Whether a coporation is considered a person for legal purposes in other matters has little to do with the absolute fact that a coporation is not a person. And therefore should not have the power to fund campaigns.

But it's all good if outfits like Goldman and Sachs force the issues with money during election right?

Or it's good and personable when corporations fund candidates that will never ever vote for bills to penalize corporations from out sourcing right?

Well, I don't know where Romney stands on the Citizens United decision, but this has fuck all to do with it. He was talking about the impact to shareholders when answering a question about raising corporate taxes to increase revenue.

OzmO · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:14:38 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on August 11, 2011, 05:09:17 PM

Well, I don't know where Romney stands on the Citizens United decision, but this has fuck all to do with it. He was talking about the impact to shareholders when answering a question about raising corporate taxes to increase revenue.

Ok.

What do you think about it? Do you think corporations should be able to contribute to campaigns as much as they want?

OzmO · « **Reply #18 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:17:37 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on August 11, 2011, 05:07:17 PM

Why?

Because, in the near future when millions dollars comes from corporations to fund a campaign that politician will not have the "voters" interest at heart but instead have the corporation's interest at heart. We have already seen what 600 million can do in a presidential campaign.

Skip8282 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:18:49 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on August 11, 2011, 05:14:38 PM

Ok.

What do you think about it? Do you think corporations should be able to contribute to campaigns as much as they want?

Must admit, I'm a waffle on the issue, paralyzed by both arguments.

I don't want corporations to buy our elections.

But, I don't want the government to be able to go in a search offices without a warrant, confiscate telephone records, etc. of the corporation. So they have to have some degree of personhood.

How do you balance that legally and constitutionally? I really don't know.

OzmO · « **Reply #20 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:22:32 PM »

Quote from: Skip8282 on August 11, 2011, 05:18:49 PM

But, I don't want the government to be able to go in a search offices without a warrant, confiscate telephone records, etc. of the corporation. So they have to have some degree of personhood.

Seems like a few protective laws for the rights of corporations should be able to fix that. Are there more issues on that side of it that weigh on your view of this?

OzmO · « **Reply #21 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:24:20 PM »

"as a result of the war, corporations have become enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

Skip8282 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 11, 2011, 05:39:24 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on August 11, 2011, 05:22:32 PM

Seems like a few protective laws for the rights of corporations should be able to fix that. Are there more issues on that side of it that weigh on your view of this?

Well, you would think, but it's really venturing beyond my knowledge. At best, I'm playing arm-chair lawyer, but at some point you have to differentiate from say an IBM versus a group of like minded people who want to assoiciate and voice their opinion in a corporate form. It then becomes hard to make such a distinction and apply the Constitution uniformly to everyone.

jaejonna · « **Reply #23 on:** August 11, 2011, 06:56:17 PM »

hahhaa Romney getting own3d by some do-nothing hicks in Iowa hahaha

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #24 on:** August 11, 2011, 06:56:48 PM »

newt is kicking ass tonight. Totally on fire.