Obama at fault for the 20 U.S. Navy Seals' deaths in Afghanistan? ? ? ?

[Soul Crusher]

All of the people who credit Obama's "gutsy move" on getting Osama Bin Laden and his leadership, blah blah blah, have been awfully silent on the increasing deaths in the war over there.   

So if Bama gets credit for Osama do we also credit Obama with the Seals' deaths? 

 

[Deicide]

All of the people who credit Obama's "gutsy move" on getting Osama Bin Laden and his leadership, blah blah blah, have been awfully silent on the increasing deaths in the war over there.   

So if Bama gets credit for Osama do we also credit Obama with the Seals' deaths? 

 

Obama and Bush's fault, both.

[Kazan]

33 I like you but please don't turn the sacrifice of those men into a political pissing match

[Soul Crusher]

33 I like you but please don't turn the sacrifice of those men into a political pissing match

Not trying to do that at all.     

[Deicide]

33 I like you but please don't turn the sacrifice of those men into a political pissing match

Lives wasted on a pointless war, sent to their deaths by the likes of Bush and Obama; what were they fighting for? Nation building? democracy....it is time to bring the troops home, 10 years are long enough.

[Kazan]

Lives wasted on a pointless war, sent to their deaths by the likes of Bush and Obama; what were they fighting for? Nation building? democracy....it is time to bring the troops home, 10 years are long enough.

I'm not going to start blaming anyone, these guys were SEAL's they were professionals, they volunteered to go into harms way.
Now as far as nation building winning the hearts and minds bullshit, I'm for total war you kill the enemy until they loose the will to fight.

[Deicide]

I'm not going to start blaming anyone, these guys were SEAL's they were professionals, they volunteered to go into harms way.
Now as far as nation building winning the hearts and minds bullshit, I'm for total war you kill the enemy until they loose the will to fight.

The Afghans have more will than most, for thousands of years they have repelled invasions since Alexander. When do the troops go home then? We can't stay there forever, if only for financial reasons. We're not doing anything useful over there.

[Soul Crusher]

The Afghans have more will than most, for thousands of years they have repelled invasions since Alexander. When do the troops go home then? We can't stay there forever, if only for financial reasons. We're not doing anything useful over there.

They have nothing else to do!  They love to fight since that is all they know and have to do to pass the time by. 

[blacken700]

All of the people who credit Obama's "gutsy move" on getting Osama Bin Laden and his leadership, blah blah blah, have been awfully silent on the increasing deaths in the war over there.   

So if Bama gets credit for Osama do we also credit Obama with the Seals' deaths? 

 

man your stooping very low,in fact your in bottom feeder territory

[Kazan]

The Afghans have more will than most, for thousands of years they have repelled invasions since Alexander. When do the troops go home then? We can't stay there forever, if only for financial reasons. We're not doing anything useful over there.

During WWII no one cared that we would send 300 B-17 and bomb this shit our of a city in Germany. No one gave a shit that we sent B-29's and Nuked to Japanese cities. Why? Because it ended the war that much faster.

[Deicide]

During WWII no one cared that we would send 300 B-17 and bomb this shit our of a city in Germany. No one gave a shit that we sent B-29's and Nuked to Japanese cities. Why? Because it ended the war that much faster.

We actually had defineable goals in WWII, in fact, it was the last legal war, inasmuch as there was a declaration. What is the goal in Afghanistan? to root out the Taliban? to stop Al Quaida, build schools? It only seems like we are fighting...just to fight. Total war, if you favour that, can only occur with definite war goals but there aren't really any in Afghanistan.

[blacken700]

During WWII no one cared that we would send 300 B-17 and bomb this shit our of a city in Germany. No one gave a shit that we sent B-29's and Nuked to Japanese cities. Why? Because it ended the war that much faster.

different times, now your not fighting armies that fight for a country your fighting rebels and i think they don't give a shit if you went and bombed cities

[Kazan]

different times, now your not fighting armies that fight for a country your fighting rebels and i think they don't give a shit if you went and bombed cities

They might not but I bet the people in the cities would. And some point they would 2 and 2 together and realize why they were getting bombed was because of AQ and the Taliban. The Afghan's loyalty goes to the highest bidder, when dealing with a populace like that total war is the only answer

[Soul Crusher]

This is a waste of time and money over there. 

We are not fighting to win since winning is meaningless in any real sense.  Win what? 

I dont think one more american life is worth 2,000,000 of those savages in dirty night shirts. 

[blacken700]

they got him now get the hell out of there

[OzmO]

 

Did Obama personally issue the order for the helicopter to fly from one location to the other before it got shot down?


Dumb thread and poor taste in politicizing the death of 30 heroes.

[blacken700]

Did Obama personally issue the order for the helicopter to fly from one location to the other before it got shot down?


Dumb thread and poor taste in politicizing the death of 30 heroes.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
right on the money

[Soul Crusher]

Did Obama personally issue the order for the helicopter to fly from one location to the other before it got shot down?


Dumb thread and poor taste in politicizing the death of 30 heroes.

Really?  Funny how that same thought process was never used while Bush was potus. 

And please - obama did not order anything with Bin Laden.  That is another bogus lie they put out to make him look like he actually is doing something.     

[OzmO]

Really?  Funny how that same thought process was never used while Bush was potus.  

And please - obama did not order anything with Bin Laden.  That is another bogus lie they put out to make him look like he actually is doing something.    

What thought process?

Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq.  What are you talking about?

And yeah, OB had the final call to go or not to go on the raid.  It was a big risk for his administration and the public faith in our SoF.

[Soul Crusher]

What thought process?

Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq.  What are you talking about?

And yeah, OB had the final call to go or not to go on the raid.  It was a big risk for his administration and the public faith in our SoF.

Yeah - like he was going to say no? 

Fucking please - he would have been ousted from office in a week if he said no to that. 

[OzmO]

Yeah - like he was going to say no? 

Fucking please - he would have been ousted from office in a week if he said no to that. 

We would have never known about it.  It was a classified opp

[Soul Crusher]

We would have never known about it.  It was a classified opp

Yeah, ok, this admn leaks like a siv and you think if he said no to that no one would have found out?    LMAO. 

We found about Clinton giving up chances to get obl too remember? 

[OzmO]

Yeah, ok, this admn leaks like a siv and you think if he said no to that no one would have found out?    LMAO. 

We found about Clinton giving up chances to get obl too remember? 

 

Really?  so there is no classified information in the military and in this administration?

we know everything?   there are no secrets?

Its a stupid assertion of yours and a disrespectful thread to American heroes who lost their lives defending our country all because you are obsessed with OB.

[Dos Equis]

No, not Obama's fault.  Those mean volunteered to put themselves in harm's way.  I agree with Kazan that we shouldn't turn their deaths into a political issue. 

[Soul Crusher]

No, not Obama's fault.  Those mean volunteered to put themselves in harm's way.  I agree with Kazan that we shouldn't turn their deaths into a political issue. 

Well - i guess the obama admn doesnt see if that way with their little hollywood gambit for the movie to be released two weeks before the election.