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Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« on: August 13, 2011, 01:13:48 PM »
Rick Perry: Red-State Warrior
Rick Perry and Barack Obama disagree about policy. But as Michael Tomasky argues, a race between them would end up as the biggest battle yet in the culture war.
by Michael Tomasky | August 13, 2011

So in comes Rick Perry.  He will surely be an instant co-frontrunner along with Mitt Romney. In fact I would argue, and will one paragraph down, that he’s basically the instant frontrunner. So for the sake of argument, let’s go ahead and think about a Perry-Obama race. Such a race would be about, yes, the economy first and foremost, and deficits and health care and all the rest. But an Obama-Perry race would be something else, too: a war between the two Americas, each side represented by its respective cultural standard-bearer, each side’s foot soldiers absolutely smoldering with contempt for everything the other guy stands for and indeed the way he looks. We’ve never quite had that before, not in this way, so it’s worth thinking about.

First, I think Perry becomes the frontrunner, even ahead of Mitt Romney, for three main reasons. No. 1, he fires up large chunks of the base in a way Romney does not. Romney has “default candidate” written all over him, but evangelicals and other hard-shell conservatives are never going to love a Massachusetts Mormon. They’ll love Perry. No. 2, Perry can quickly become the “establishment” candidate because the establishment of today’s GOP is not based on Wall Street or the heartland but in Texas—Karl Rove, the oilmen, the various billionaires who prime those GOP pumps. No. 3 is speculation rather than fact, but I believe Perry will demonstrate pretty quickly that he’s a better campaigner than Romney. It won’t be hard.

It will take some time, probably, for the polls to reflect all this, but they will. Republicans don’t want a posh, well-spoken Yankee who works at a place with a name like Bain Capital. In their deepest souls, they want a Texas governor. They want a shit-kicker. And here, we circle back to culture.

When my friends and I looked at George W. Bush in 1999, we shuddered like people who’d turned a street corner and stumbled across a dog’s corpse. We knew and had contempt for his beliefs, but it had nothing to do with them, really. It was just the way he presented himself. That puffed-out chest. That self-satisfied smirk. All that Jesus talk—even in the event that it was sincere, which we never quite bought, it was to a liberal deeply inappropriate to haul it into the public square like that. He represented Southern country clubs and Dodge Durangos and Browning bolt-actions and homes with no books in them (putting Laura to the side, since she wasn’t the candidate). He was the kind of man who, if I ran into him at a hospitality tent at a tailgate party, I’d make an effort to avoid. Liberals just couldn’t stand the sight of the guy. And that was before he ruined the country.

I understand that conservatives feel similarly about Obama. They look at him and see wine-and-cheese parties where people have jazz playing in the background and where talk turns to the merits and demerits of Jonathan Franzen, who drive Priuses (or is it Prii?) and buy espresso machines and live in homes with far too many books in them. And worse than that: for much of Red America, Dr. Frankenstein himself could not have stitched together a more perfect Other: urban, urbane, sophisticated, intellectual. “Black,” of course, may no longer be a deal breaker in this day and age, but it doesn’t help. Many conservatives clearly can’t stand the sight of him.

Perry, on this scale, is chillingly Bush-like. I saw a clip the other day of him saluting—an off-screen soldier, perhaps, or a flag. It was a small thing. But he looked exactly like Bush. The chest pumped up with self-regard. The overly aggressive way he thrust his saluting hand out from his forehead. He even, I swear, was smirking. I shuddered all over again.

    The other day I saw a clip of Perry saluting. He looked exactly like George W. Bush. I shuddered all over again.

During an Obama-Perry contest, millions of Americans on both sides would be shuddering constantly for four months. We’ve never had quite this kind of showdown culturally. Our present Kulturkampf dates only to the 1980s. There’s never been a cultural showdown of the sort Obama v. Perry would represent. Yes, Republicans hated Clinton, but he was Southern and enough of a good old boy that he cut across those lines to some extent. Gore was painted as an egghead, and was, but again Southern-ness diluted the cocktail a bit. Bush versus John Kerry is probably as close as we’ve come, but Kerry was never really quite threatening enough to Bush America to merit serious hatred. And John McCain, mostly because he was not Southern and partly because he was so old, was not nearly as perfect a foil for Obama as Perry would be.

I don’t relish this. We’re divided enough, thanks. To invoke one of Bush’s most degrading moments of smirky chest-puffery, I say don’t bring it on.


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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2011, 01:17:42 PM »
They re all the same, as in every democracy; big businesses , allied with medias, run the show, politics are just their puppets. We re just here to buy, make these people richer and vote indirectly fro them. This is democracy, this is occident, this is the animal kingdom of men, this is life on earth.

People should just stop voting. What would it change anyway.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 01:19:49 PM »
haha it was funny when they announced on the radio "RICK PERRY IS THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE" then perry says "I AM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT" with echoes of george bush and the old guard....seriously who the fuck they think they are kiddin

i really hope ron paul wins but he wont have a chance because all the media downplays big pual niggas.
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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 01:22:14 PM »
Libs running scared, the Repub landslide over Obama is underway and it is going to be so sweet.

I have house plants that are 10X smarter and more effect at leading the country than Obama.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 01:24:07 PM »
Libs running scared, the Repub landslide over Obama is underway and it is going to be so sweet.

I have house plants that are 10X smarter and more effect at leading the country than Obama.
Are you really this limited in mental capacity?  Really?

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 01:36:55 PM »
Call him Dumber, but the Smart Obama has to explain why Texas has created 51% jobs  the last 2 years. bye,bye enjoy your permanent vacation in Hawaii

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 01:39:52 PM »
Call him Dumber, but the Smart Obama has to explain why Texas has created 51% jobs  the last 2 years. bye,bye enjoy your permanent vacation in Hawaii
Texas=Government Handouts Supreme=Job Creation.



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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2011, 03:09:05 PM »
Call him Dumber, but the Smart Obama has to explain why Texas has created 51% jobs  the last 2 years. bye,bye enjoy your permanent vacation in Hawaii

While the Texas Education Agency had massive layoffs... It's not all roses in Texas my friends

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2011, 04:31:18 PM »
Call him Dumber, but the Smart Obama has to explain why Texas has created 51% jobs  the last 2 years. bye,bye enjoy your permanent vacation in Hawaii

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2011, 05:23:27 PM »
Obama is going to win.  Its not going to be close.  It doesn't matter who the Republicans put up against him.  One out of six Americans are receiving food stamps.  Over half the population receive some sort of government benefit(handout).  The media, outside of Fox News, backs the president and nearly every Democrat in office unconditionally. 

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2011, 06:09:54 PM »
Obama is going to win.  Its not going to be close.  It doesn't matter who the Republicans put up against him.  One out of six Americans are receiving food stamps.  Over half the population receive some sort of government benefit(handout).  The media, outside of Fox News, backs the president and nearly every Democrat in office unconditionally. 
Im starting to get scared of this. I hate the fact that Obama is basically touted as a god by every media outlet except Fox.
If we dont pay attention to whats going on in Europe, with the immigrants moving in and taking over using the countries own laws to force others to adapt to their way of life, were gonna have the same shit happen here, cause its obvious the politicians here dont give 2 fucks about the country or public, just about getting reelected and pandering to whatever group (racial, gender, etc) has the biggest pool to get votes from.

Sad really. It still gets me that people think that a different president is would have cared more about them (the public). I hate Obama and he is a giant piece of shit, but really people need to wake the fuck up and realize that NO politician from either of the major 2 parties has their best interest in mind.

If you really want CHANGE people, its time to make a CHANGE, and stop voting for the same 2 parties that make sure shit doesnt change, and makes sure that the money keeps flowing the way they want it too. (Which is out of anyones pockets they can get it from, and into theirs and the people theyre in league with.)

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2011, 10:23:59 PM »
Im starting to get scared of this.  I hate the fact that Obama is basically touted as a god by every media outlet except Fox.If we dont pay attention to whats going on in Europe, with the immigrants moving in and taking over using the countries own laws to force others to adapt to their way of life, were gonna have the same shit happen here, cause its obvious the politicians here dont give 2 fucks about the country or public, just about getting reelected and pandering to whatever group (racial, gender, etc) has the biggest pool to get votes from.

Sad really. It still gets me that people think that a different president is would have cared more about them (the public). I hate Obama and he is a giant piece of shit, but really people need to wake the fuck up and realize that NO politician from either of the major 2 parties has their best interest in mind.

If you really want CHANGE people, its time to make a CHANGE, and stop voting for the same 2 parties that make sure shit doesnt change, and makes sure that the money keeps flowing the way they want it too. (Which is out of anyones pockets they can get it from, and into theirs and the people theyre in league with.)

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is that what they told you on fox and friends?

what exactly are you so scared about?

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 11:08:46 PM »

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 11:43:30 PM »
texas delivered a lot of jobs in the last 2 years - but they have a HUGE deficit as a result, don't they?  Billions in new debt? 

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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 11:47:22 PM »
texas delivered a lot of jobs in the last 2 years - but they have a HUGE deficit as a result, don't they?  Billions in new debt? 

Yes, but oddly enough, currently their budget is running at a surplus, so their debt is in fact, on the way down.

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 11:53:40 AM »
Yes, but oddly enough, currently their budget is running at a surplus, so their debt is in fact, on the way down.

Because we save money building roads by creating more toll roads..

Not only do we create more toll roads, we screw up the original roads and make them so inconvenient to use that it tries to force people to use the tolls..

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 07:00:07 PM »
Benny B...Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush ...

I have to admit you are perspicacious on this point.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 07:37:44 PM »


hahha this was awesome yet this doesnt mean he wont vote black obama back in fo nutha try
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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 07:41:58 PM »
perry took 14.4 billion of stimulus money in 2009.

Also, he increased texas debt from 13 to 35 billion.

oh, and he used to work as Al Gore's campaign manager.

THIS is the best repubs can do these days!


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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 07:44:11 PM »
perry took 14.4 billion of stimulus money in 2009.

Also, he increased texas debt from 13 to 35 billion.

oh, and he used to work as Al Gore's campaign manager.

THIS is the best repubs can do these days!



Where is that link again?

BTW, I wouldn't vote for him. Too many liberal contacts.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2011, 07:48:37 PM »
Where is that link again?

BTW, I wouldn't vote for him. Too many liberal contacts.

Which info did you need linked?

i don't think he's the best republican.  I will vote for wahtever repub makes it out of the pack.  I'm hoping it's Bachmann or Paul, but if Perry makes it, I'll vote for him to stop the insane spending.

many on the politics board feel the need to defend Perry's spending and liberal associations.  That's not necessary.  It's okay to say "he ain't the best repub in the field and I hope others win, but he'll get my vote if it's down to him and obama".




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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2011, 08:00:46 PM »
Vote for bachman? You're serious?


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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2011, 08:06:22 PM »
This thread is really a below mediocre troll job by the OP and True Adonis. Really fucking lame.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2011, 07:50:52 AM »
Benny clearly concerned about his government assistance.

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Re: Rick Perry - Dumber Version Of George Bush
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2011, 07:53:00 AM »
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