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2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« on: August 14, 2011, 06:11:09 AM »
Now, for starters, we all know I don't have a lot of muscles but those times I have eaten less than 2g per kg of bodyweight for weeks on end I did not notice a loss of the muscles I do have or in strength. I was wondering if others have had this experience? I personally think it is a fabrication for marketing purposes that you have you consume 2g of protein per kg or since protein synthesis is so much better with juice, for juicers this might be applicable? What do you guys think?
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 06:25:08 AM »
Yes absolutely, total lie!

I used to eat like crazy in the begin years i trained, ate tons of protein from several sources. lots of shakes and supps, also because flex magazine told me that was required!! flex can you read this, pieces of shit.
Now that i dont anymore. not even shakes. eating like a normal person does. having lost zero muscle and even gained more muscle and became more trimmed.
I also think that when you dont eat a lot of protein that your body tends to use it more proper as well. but again, its all fabricated lies in these mags, really.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 06:29:15 AM »
The less protein sparing nutrients, the less protein is going to be used for muscle building purposes. You can not override the body's energy needs and tilt it more towards muscle building, simply by eating more protein. That would be TOO easy.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 06:30:34 AM »
Yes absolutely, total lie!

I used to eat like crazy in the begin years i trained, ate tons of protein from several sources. lots of shakes and supps, also because flex magazine told me that was required!! flex can you read this, pieces of shit.
Now that i dont anymore. not even shakes. eating like a normal person does. having lost zero muscle and even gained more muscle and became more trimmed.
I also think that when you dont eat a lot of protein that your body tends to use it more proper as well. but again, its all fabricated lies in these mags, really.

Yeah, I try to get in about 100g, give or take and never notice a difference. Weird. Even on a diet I don't notice a difference, even weirder.
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 06:50:18 AM »
I eat around 80-120 grams a day on average.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 06:51:32 AM »
Complete and utter horse shit.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 06:52:12 AM »
Agreed. The whole 1.5-2g of protein per pound of bodyweight is just ridiculous. I am not sure what Flex magazines (or any of the other magazine) gains by stating this.  :-\ :-\

However, Branch Warren did state that his food bill is close to $400 a week  ::) ::)
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 06:53:36 AM »
Agreed. The whole 1.5-2g of protein per pound of bodyweight is just ridiculous. I am not sure what Flex magazines (or any of the other magazine) gains by stating this.  :-\ :-\

However, Branch Warren did state that his food bill is close to $400 a week  ::) ::)

If one is on massive drugs, I can see how this might work...otherwise....hmm.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 07:02:24 AM »
If one is on massive drugs, I can see how this might work...otherwise....hmm.

Even so! I think Branch stated that his food bill was close to $2,000 a month  :-\ :-\  Sounds suspicious. Then again, he is 'hardcore'  ::) ::)
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 07:04:39 AM »
imagine how terrible branch his genes are. even with that amount of food and drugs he cant break the 16 inch arm department

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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2011, 07:06:19 AM »
imagine how terrible branch his genes are. even with that amount of food and drugs he cant break the 16 inch arm department

 :D :D I was just going to say something like that. With that amount of food bill + drugs, he should have won the Mr. O at least 10 times (or however long he's been competing)  :D :D
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2011, 09:07:26 AM »
I eat around 80-120 grams a day on average.

Wow, that's not a lot - do you actually gain on that?

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 09:11:46 AM »
Now, for starters, we all know I don't have a lot of muscles but those times I have eaten less than 2g per kg of bodyweight for weeks on end I did not notice a loss of the muscles I do have or in strength. I was wondering if others have had this experience? I personally think it is a fabrication for marketing purposes that you have you consume 2g of protein per kg or since protein synthesis is so much better with juice, for juicers this might be applicable? What do you guys think?

I always heard that the ratio was 1gram of protein per every kg of muscle mass.  I never heard it being 2grams/kg.

Either way, it's not that important.  I've found that with just 1 gram of protein per kg of mass, I am able to maintain all strength, while building muscle mass.  I typically consume between 90-110 grams of protein per day.

I guess it comes down to personal preference and what your body dictates.
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 09:15:03 AM »
Now, for starters, we all know I don't have a lot of muscles but those times I have eaten less than 2g per kg of bodyweight for weeks on end I did not notice a loss of the muscles I do have or in strength. I was wondering if others have had this experience? I personally think it is a fabrication for marketing purposes that you have you consume 2g of protein per kg or since protein synthesis is so much better with juice, for juicers this might be applicable? What do you guys think?
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 09:16:37 AM »
Yeah, I try to get in about 100g, give or take and never notice a difference. Weird. Even on a diet I don't notice a difference, even weirder.
You can eat less than that even.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 09:17:06 AM »
I eat around 80-120 grams a day on average.

same here, feel much better than when I was trying to get 200+

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 09:20:05 AM »
I just try and eat as healthy as I can without counting grams of protein/carbs etc.
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 09:23:20 AM »
A total lie hence why most of these giant lugs can't even bend and touch their feet and are dying faster than ever.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 09:25:09 AM »
When dieting 2gr/kg could be right. When not dieting 100gr is enough and you get that easily on a normal diet.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 09:25:29 AM »
You can eat less than that even.

2k is too much but in maybe a few of you (such as TA) should quit going by what Flex or Muscle and Fitness say and actually pick up clinical sports nutrition book and have a glance. Unless you think you're smarter and know better than the phd's who actually wrote the book. My guess is that people like TA who would actually take the time to get tested (bod pod) would actually find out in reality (if he or anyone else says their taking in what they really state on here) is that he is skinny/fat and isn't holding as much muscle as they think they are.

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2011, 09:41:14 AM »
2g / kg is minimal, it's even lower than 1g / lb :-\

Minumum intake is 1g /lb (2.25g/kg)
Recommended intake is 1.25-1.5g / lb (2.75-3.25g/kg)

i get around 220-250g per day
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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2011, 09:47:01 AM »
Nasser Interview:

"I increased my protein to 600gr daily. This is the way i gained 30 pounds (up to 280lbs) of lean muscle between the 1994 and 1995 Mr Olympia"

so i guess protein is the key to big muscles


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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2011, 10:03:36 AM »
Nasser Interview:

"I increased my protein to 600gr daily. This is the way i gained 30 pounds (up to 280lbs) of lean muscle between the 1994 and 1995 Mr Olympia"

so i guess protein plus juicing till it comes out of your ears is the key to big muscles


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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 10:06:48 AM »
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No shit. With his 10g/week of shit, Nasser would grow in spite of nutrition.   

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Re: 2g protein per kg? Mythology or reality?
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2011, 10:13:01 AM »
2g / kg is minimal, it's even lower than 1g / lb :-\

Minumum intake is 1g /lb (2.25g/kg)
Recommended intake is 1.25-1.5g / lb (2.75-3.25g/kg)

i get around 220-250g per day
This..

Although you can get away with a bit less than that..