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Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« on: August 14, 2011, 01:17:07 PM »

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 01:19:15 PM »

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 01:20:48 PM »

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 01:29:35 PM »
Who won the fight?

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 03:21:01 PM »
Courtesy of Wikipedia:

Tyson, who was the No.1 contender, faced No.2 contender Donovan "Razor" Ruddock on March 18, 1991, in Las Vegas. Ruddock at the time was seen as the most dangerous heavyweight around and was thought of as one of the hardest punching heavyweights. Tyson and Ruddock went back and forth for most of the fight, until referee Richard Steele controversially stopped the fight during the seventh round in favor of Tyson. This decision infuriated the fans in attendance, sparking a post-fight melee in the audience and the referee had to be escorted from the ring.[40]
 
Tyson and Ruddock met again on June 28 that year, with Tyson knocking down Ruddock twice and winning a 12 round unanimous decision.[41] A fight between Tyson and Holyfield for the undisputed championship was arranged for the autumn of 1991.


It didn't happen though - Tyson was arrested for rape in the summer and stood trial early the following year.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 02:13:47 AM »

Thanks for that havnt seen that build up before, That right hand that knocked Tilman out was Fucking Awesome, and how bout his Sparring partner @ 9.07.... ;D ;D ;D No Mercy back then and that poor bastard Earned his Money Sparring that night with Mike ;D

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 03:36:09 AM »
tyson was a beast
best fighter ever IMO
choice is an illusion

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 03:58:01 AM »
tyson was a beast
best fighter ever IMO

Ali would have exposed him.  Alot of Mike's one shot knockouts are against Tomatoes of his era.  Ali wouldn't go down on one shot.  Plus Ali would pick a venue in extreme heat like he did against Foreman in Africa and push the fight into later rounds.

Lennox could have defeated Mike earlier, had better tools Douglas.

Mike would have had hell against a young George Foreman, a true one shot and you are out puncher.

I'm not sure Mike would have survived a clubbing match with Joe Frazier, who was a short, compact puncher like Tyson.

    

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 04:06:32 AM »
Ali would have exposed him.  Alot of Mike's one shot knockouts are against Tomatoes of his era.  Ali wouldn't go down on one shot.  Plus Ali would pick a venue in extreme heat like he did against Foreman in Africa and push the fight into later rounds.

Lennox could have defeated Mike earlier, had better tools Douglas.

Mike would have had hell against a young George Foreman, a true one shot and you are out puncher.

I'm not sure Mike would have survived a clubbing match with Joe Frazier, who was a short, compact puncher like Tyson.

    

dont agree....
lewis coundnt defeat a peak tyson....

and i think tyson would destroy ali....
just hits too hard... and he hits with purpose... unlike foreman who was a big puncher who was just punching for punching sake when he fault ali..
watch that tyson v rudduck fight and watch how tyson smashes him with body shots
douglas caught a lazy complacent tyson thats all....
tysin = most feroicious... ruthless champ ever
greatest IMO
choice is an illusion

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 04:19:25 AM »
dont agree....
lewis coundnt defeat a peak tyson....

and i think tyson would destroy ali....
just hits too hard... and he hits with purpose... unlike foreman who was a big puncher who was just punching for punching sake when he fault ali..
watch that tyson v rudduck fight and watch how tyson smashes him with body shots
douglas caught a lazy complacent tyson thats all....
tysin = most feroicious... ruthless champ ever
greatest IMO

Don't get confused.  Tyson's career path was Cherry Picked by Cus D'amato and handlers.  They pocketed 50% of his purses earlier in his career.  Even at Mike's peak, he wouldn't have taken Holyfield out, would have had to resort to elbows and biting when Holyfield walked thru his punches.

Lennox would have kept him at bay and tagged him with rights, was just too big and skilled.

Like Holyfield, Foreman could take an accumulation of punches.  Mike would not have been able to knock him out in the first 4-5 rounds.  Foreman catches him late, just like he beat the snot out of Frazier.

Ali just too good.

Against those 3, Mike probably goes 1-2. No way he beats a prime Ali, Lennox and Foreman.
I like Mike but he seriously isn't the best ever.    

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 08:01:56 AM »
Ali would have exposed him.  Alot of Mike's one shot knockouts are against Tomatoes of his era.  Ali wouldn't go down on one shot.  Plus Ali would pick a venue in extreme heat like he did against Foreman in Africa and push the fight into later rounds.

Lennox could have defeated Mike earlier, had better tools Douglas.

Mike would have had hell against a young George Foreman, a true one shot and you are out puncher.

I'm not sure Mike would have survived a clubbing match with Joe Frazier, who was a short, compact puncher like Tyson.

    

since when was mike a one shot boxer, he hit in bunches, ferocious bunches at that!!!


how anyone could even argue that he'd struggle with frazier shows a total lack of boxing knowledge, frazier was one of the smallest heavyweights in the 70's, and never fared well against a strong puncher, i cant recall any heavyweight being as violent and as aggressive as tyson.


all we can have is oppinions, but mine is a prime tyson would find a way to beat anyone!

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 09:19:28 AM »



A prime Tyson would destroy Lewis ... See the haseem rackman fight with Lewis glass chin
Prime Tyson would never give Lewis a chance to settle .. Too fast coming forward  moving is headless is a big clumsy guy prime Tyson would destroy him... As for Tyson v Holyfield IMO the second fight Tyson was slightly ahead.... Holyfield is known for intentionally using his head and continually head butted Tyson and the rf ignored Thelma complaints this is why Tyson snapped
choice is an illusion

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 09:35:09 AM »
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000474&cat=boxer

Look at Mike's career up to Holyfield.  Outside of an aging Holmes he fought tomatoes.  none of those guys are hall of famers, and all of them would get destroyed by ali, frazer, norton, foreman, and sunny in their primes.  tim weatherspoon would clown 90% of them and he was making title defenses for FREE under don king ::). it's no different than the BS argument about FMW who would get killed by a prime leonard, duran or hearns.  Mike can't do anything about his generation of fighters and Cus cherry picking.  The same thing goes for the 2 russians now.  mike is not the best HW ever, not even close.  

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 09:36:49 AM »
Tyson had such tremendous aggression and power during his prime. Ferocious. Even without a "ground game", Mike would knock 90 percent of UFC warriors right the fuck out within the first two minutes of a MMA fight. Guys wouldn't even be able to attempt to "take it to the ground".  

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 09:40:13 AM »
Tyson had such tremendous aggression and power during his prime. Ferocious. Even without a "ground game", Mike would knock 90 percent of UFC warriors right the fuck out within the first two minutes of a MMA fight. Guys wouldn't even be able to attempt to "take it to the ground".  

we've gone over this already.  boxers without some sort of a wrestling background have failed at the top level in MMA.  mike's youth street fights don't count.  when they go down, they can't figure out away to get back up.  short term ground training has proven to be a failure.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2011, 09:43:27 AM »
Cormier would've done him in.  ;)
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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2011, 09:47:14 AM »
haha G_String getting ripped to shreds on his lack of knowledge.. tyson a 'one shot' fighter, indeed  ::)

plus a prime tyson would have annihilated 100% of mma fighters within seconds  :)

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2011, 11:12:19 AM »
a prime tyson would have annihilated 100% of mma fighters within seconds  :)

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2011, 11:24:16 AM »
Nothing beats a fight at the good ol' Mirage.........

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2011, 11:31:51 AM »
The last few mins of te last vid really show Mike's insecurities...

Also, next to Chuck Norris it looks like his co-star from Walker, Texas Ranger.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 12:01:27 PM »
Baddest dude on the planet in his prime

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 12:24:23 PM »
haha G_String getting ripped to shreds on his lack of knowledge.. tyson a 'one shot' fighter, indeed  ::)

plus a prime tyson would have annihilated 100% of mma fighters within seconds  :)

you're clueless if you think mike tyson would defeat foreman, ali, frazer, norton, and lennox.

hype sells but that's bullshit.

he couldn't get past hollyfield in 2 fights.

sorry, i'm not white, so i don't quite understand the meaning of "owned" on getdumb.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2011, 12:27:04 PM »
Technically speaking prime Tyson ie 85-88 version had all the tools to defeat anyone in the ring of any era.Even if some say Tyson had problems with taller opponents thats because no fighter fought him in the inside  or even if they try to jab him and keep him their arms length he would still make his way in.Prime Evander holyfield couldnt take out hasbeen champions larry holmes and George Foreman while Mike tyson ko`d Larry holmes in 4 rounds.This early 90s of Mike tyson still has an edge to win but the way he fought ruddock clearly shows how his head movement faded away but still he had some raw power to put down a 6`3 guy.Lewis being a skilled fighter would succcumb to the pressure what Mike tyson of this era showed.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2011, 12:33:38 PM »
gthang clearly your not a fan of tyson...
in his prime do you really think lewis could hide behind that jab ... youre crazy....
tyson was super fast and ferocious... soon as the bell rang he was coming forward head moving left right....
he would have smashed lewis like the times of old.... no chance...
and like i said watch the secnd fight with holifield imo he was ahead... until holyfield kept headbutting him
holyfield is one of my fave boxers too...
tyson fought the heavy world champ and took his title ... are you calling the heavy weight champ at that time a tomato  :-\
cmon dude spinks berbic ruddock.... tomatoes....
choice is an illusion

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2011, 12:37:08 PM »
Technically speaking prime Tyson ie 85-88 version had all the tools to defeat anyone in the ring of any era.Even if some say Tyson had problems with taller opponents thats because no fighter fought him in the inside  or even if they try to jab him and keep him their arms length he would still make his way in.Prime Evander holyfield couldnt take out hasbeen champions larry holmes and George Foreman while Mike tyson ko`d Larry holmes in 4 rounds.This early 90s of Mike tyson still has an edge to win but the way he fought ruddock clearly shows how his head movement faded away but still he had some raw power to put down a 6`3 guy.Lewis being a skilled fighter would succcumb to the pressure what Mike tyson of this era showed.

precisley...
i noticed that head movent diminished in that fight...
he smashed ruddock hard with those bodyshots
tyson was the most ferocious heavyweight boxer ever....
greatest in his prime imo
choice is an illusion