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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2011, 01:22:05 AM »
Tyson Dodged Foreman, he told Don King there was no way he would fight him.  Tyson knew that his style was very similar to Frazier and he would meet the same fate if he fought Foreman.  

People who say that Tyson could beat Ali are just plain ignorant to the sport of boxing and have spent way too much time watching Mike's knockout clips on inferior opponents.  Ali was by far a better fighter, and Tyson doesn't come close to hitting as hard as foreman did.  

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While we were eating, Benton said, "Bobby, what's up with Foreman and Tyson, how come they're not fighting each other on the 16th? Isn't that the fight that King was trying to make?" He said, " Georgie,You'll never believe this but, Fuckin' Tyson is scared shitless of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fightin' that Fuckin' animal, if you love the #### so much, you fight him!'"



your full of fucking shit, tyson was never afraid of anyone, ever, he was to afraid of himself, to ever fear anyone more than himself. only tyson beat tyson, and we know why, but another man fighting a prime tyson? get the fuck out of here.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2011, 01:26:56 AM »
tyson is the biggest fraud outside pac

1. he fought larry holmes when holmes had a 2 year layoff and 6 weeks training camp

he dropped holmes because he was out of shape. shit he took shavers biggest bombs and got up.

does that mean tyson is a harder hitter than shavers HELL NO.

2. a prime frasier who fought chuvalo would have eaten tyson up.

3. an old or young foreman would have licked him in the first round. dont forget NO ONE bangs with foreman toe to toe and wins. (unless your liston)

what about tysons power, one clean shot and he is down? guess what foreman doesnt have to block because he gets away with it and he has got

alot of heart to get up if he gets dropped

4. clay and ali would of played with tyson.  but tyson trained against longer reach!  well guess what he has never fought a fantastic runner

like ali or clay.

and the only way an inside fighter beats ali if you have UNLIMITED cardio to bop and weave, have a FANTASTIC CHIN and lastly enough reach to get to him.

and only 1 person had those abilities at heavyweight and you know who that is

SMOKIN JOE FRAZIER


ali would look at films of tyson and take the fight past the 5th round.

tyson vs frazier is a pick em.  who hurts who first?

lennox lost to cans because of over confidence.  he wouldn't sleep walk his way into the ring with tyson, even in their primes.

foreman got out boxed by ali, but demolished a slugger like frazier.  which one is tyson?

tyson's boxrec is up.  who did he fight before holyfield, in terms of their place in boxing history?  i see an aging holmes.  that's it.

tyson beats someone in this bunch but no way in hell all of them.   

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2011, 03:05:02 AM »
your full of fucking shit, tyson was never afraid of anyone, ever, he was to afraid of himself, to ever fear anyone more than himself. only tyson beat tyson, and we know why, but another man fighting a prime tyson? get the fuck out of here.

brb - watching youtube videos of Tyson wiping the floor with a bunch of tomato cans and then thinking he is the greatest.. lol

Stick to oiling up your body and wearing thongs in front of gays for money, because it's very clear that you are brain dead.  Luckily it doesn't take brains to "lift things up and put dem down"


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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2011, 03:16:28 AM »
Tyson had such tremendous aggression and power during his prime. Ferocious. Even without a "ground game", Mike would knock 90 percent of UFC warriors right the fuck out within the first two minutes of a MMA fight. Guys wouldn't even be able to attempt to "take it to the ground".  

Maybe they "attempt" to misinterpret the word octagon for queen sized bed?
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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2011, 03:31:41 AM »
Young, prime, hungry Tyson is up there with the best heavyweights of all time.  Ruthless.

Saddens me that some guys seem to be beleive that Lennox Lewis deserves a similar position amongst the heavyweighty Gods.

Klitchko, both of them in fact, are average boxers in possibly the weakest HW era of all time. I don't think i've watched a HW fight this century.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2011, 04:05:33 AM »
Young, prime, hungry Tyson is up there with the best heavyweights of all time.  Ruthless.

Saddens me that some guys seem to be beleive that Lennox Lewis deserves a similar position amongst the heavyweighty Gods.

Klitchko, both of them in fact, are average boxers in possibly the weakest HW era of all time. I don't think i've watched a HW fight this century.
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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2011, 04:07:10 AM »
Young, prime, hungry Tyson is up there with the best heavyweights of all time.  Ruthless.

Saddens me that some guys seem to be beleive that Lennox Lewis deserves a similar position amongst the heavyweighty Gods.

Klitchko, both of them in fact, are average boxers in possibly the weakest HW era of all time. I don't think i've watched a HW fight this century.

You're an idiot.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2011, 07:28:05 AM »
Only G thang knows what the fuck he is talking about in this thread.

Holyfield schooled Tyson with physical strength on the inside, the same would be he case with Ali, Foreman and Lewis. Mikes biggest weakness was the ease that he could be pushed back, that and will in the face of adversity.

Exceptional offensive fighter though, best all round heavyweight puncher along with Joe Louis.
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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2011, 09:09:46 AM »
are any of you seriously even discussing frazier v tyson?,,,,, if you are , your telling me your a moron!

i can see the view of ali the the talented boxer with the good chin, or georgie with the big punch, but fuck off with frazier n nortan..

might as well dig joe lewis up to beat him too!, fucking unreal!!!!!

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2011, 09:22:35 AM »
are any of you seriously even discussing frazier v tyson?,,,,, if you are , your telling me your a moron!

i can see the view of ali the the talented boxer with the good chin, or georgie with the big punch, but fuck off with frazier n nortan..

might as well dig joe lewis up to beat him too!, fucking unreal!!!!!


He would fuck Joe up early most likely but if it goes past 6 then Frazier would break Tyson down badly, my money would be on Tyson early. Norton? Kenny was a very good awkward boxer but he couldn't deal with punchers.

Ali is all wrong for Mike as is Lewis, Foreman is a pick em fight, Georges strength and clubbing power against Mikes speed and accuracy, it would probably depend on the referee, he lets George push off hten Mike is at a real dissadvantage.

All styles have weaknesses its just the way it is, people go to far with the worship and criticism.
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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2011, 11:04:09 AM »

He would fuck Joe up early most likely but if it goes past 6 then Frazier would break Tyson down badly, my money would be on Tyson early. Norton? Kenny was a very good awkward boxer but he couldn't deal with punchers.

Ali is all wrong for Mike as is Lewis, Foreman is a pick em fight, Georges strength and clubbing power against Mikes speed and accuracy, it would probably depend on the referee, he lets George push off hten Mike is at a real dissadvantage.

All styles have weaknesses its just the way it is, people go to far with the worship and criticism.

Some of the greats had granite chins like Holyfield.  Also, look at the ounces of their gloves.  They were basically fighting with tape on their fists vs pillows the guys use today.   I'm not buying Tyson putting all of them down in the 1st 5 rounds, in which he be fucked after that.  And god forbid he'd have to fight 15 rounds like those guys did.

Tyson was undersized, dynamic and fast but was most of all a money bag for Cus and Don King, so they kept the right opponent in front of him early in his career.  I don't know what to say about the post Robin Givens and Buster Tyson.     

I say he can't get Foreman, Ali and Lennox out early enough, esp Ali, given he would BS, absorb punches like he did against Foreman  and drag the fight into later rounds.

I've got pick em with Frazier.  Tyson didn't punch as hard as Foremen, damn sure wouldn't be lifting Frazier off the canvas.  Could he get rid of Frazier in the 1st couple of rounds, because old school cardio and endurance would favor Frazier.

Tyson was good but not even close to the best.  At least beat Holyfield once which he couldn't even do.   

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2011, 11:06:19 AM »
Exactly...

brb - watching youtube videos of Tyson wiping the floor with a bunch of no name tomato cans and thinking he could beat Ali... lol

yeah, Leon Spinx was an "all-time" great..... ::)

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2011, 11:52:03 AM »
Not this thread again ! LOL ! Hell, I'll give my two cents. Tyson was a GOD in his prime. An absolute ruthless, unstoppable, bloodthirsty GOD. NO ONE, other than Ali and Foreman, could even remotely hang out in his realm. The man was omnipotent !!! I'm surprised with some of the hate goin' on in this thread. Not the majority, but there seems to be a few people in this thread who never had the HONOR and PRIVELAGE of watchin' Tyson's earlier fights. I still get goosebumps to this day watchin' some of his earlier fights. Just goosebumps. :/

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2011, 11:57:25 AM »
Not this thread again ! LOL ! Hell, I'll give my two cents. Tyson was a GOD in his prime. An absolute ruthless, unstoppable, bloodthirsty GOD. NO ONE, other than Ali and Foreman, could even remotely hang out in his realm. The man was omnipotent !!! I'm surprised with some of the hate goin' on in this thread. Not the majority, but there seems to be a few people in this thread who never had the HONOR and PRIVELAGE of watchin' Tyson's earlier fights. I still get goosebumps to this day watchin' some of his earlier fights. Just goosebumps. :/

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2011, 01:54:16 PM »
Ali would have exposed him.  Alot of Mike's one shot knockouts are against Tomatoes of his era.  Ali wouldn't go down on one shot.  Plus Ali would pick a venue in extreme heat like he did against Foreman in Africa and push the fight into later rounds.

Lennox could have defeated Mike earlier, had better tools Douglas.

Mike would have had hell against a young George Foreman, a true one shot and you are out puncher.

I'm not sure Mike would have survived a clubbing match with Joe Frazier, who was a short, compact puncher like Tyson.

    

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2011, 11:25:59 PM »
are any of you seriously even discussing frazier v tyson?,,,,, if you are , your telling me your a moron!

i can see the view of ali the the talented boxer with the good chin, or georgie with the big punch, but fuck off with frazier n nortan..

might as well dig joe lewis up to beat him too!, fucking unreal!!!!!

you are a drop kick to even think tyson could hang with frazier or norton.

fraziers chin is one of the best and even if he did go toe to toe with tyson he would spank him because you cannot break frazier mentally
or physically unless your foreman.

norton would just run and you know what tyson doesnt throw a punch if the opponent is moving back. (watch holmes in the first couple of rounds)
he was fuked couldnt do nothing when holmes gassed then tyson demolished him.


lennox lewis and the bitchko sisters are cut from the same cloth (style wise) they stand and shoot because of their reach and height. they dont run. tyson could beat them if he had cus nad only cus beause thats what he trained for his whole life. fighting against tall lanky fighters with no cardio and couldnt run if their life depended on it.


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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2011, 11:29:46 PM »
your full of fucking shit, tyson was never afraid of anyone, ever, he was to afraid of himself, to ever fear anyone more than himself. only tyson beat tyson, and we know why, but another man fighting a prime tyson? get the fuck out of here.

tyson was a student of boxing. and ANYONE WHO KNOWS BOXING knows you never walk in against foreman unless you have the chin and body conditioning and TREMENDOUS POWER. and tyson has nothing of the sort except great punch that he couldnt knock out holyfield when he was standing right infront of him.

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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2011, 06:26:20 PM »
tyson was a student of boxing. and ANYONE WHO KNOWS BOXING knows you never walk in against foreman unless you have the chin and body conditioning and TREMENDOUS POWER. and tyson has nothing of the sort except great punch that he couldnt knock out holyfield when he was standing right infront of him.

Well said...


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Re: Mike Tyson Vs Razor Ruddock Prefight
« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2011, 12:47:23 PM »
i'll tell you what.....marciano had a murderous punch.....as did tyson.....but foreman was just viscious with his punches.....joe frazier was a tad lighter than most of the other heavyweights.....but he kicked the tar out of ali.....which not too many other fighters ever did.

imho