What is Ron Paul's view on

[Deicide]

Thanks for the vid, article, info etc.  I saw him on some show last night and like him more and more.

No, end times stuff wasn't why I was asking...more Gen 12:3 and I agree w/loco's post re: Israel.

I had heard, as loco said that RP was anti-Israel.  In looking into it, that does seem like misinfo.   Why would Repubs do that

Why, what part of Christians believing that Christ will return is scary and dangerous

Some right wing Christians believe in actively bringing about the end by pushing for war between Israel, the USA and Iran. They support Israel only because of theological reasons. That is dangerous. Apart from that, many people think if you don't unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Israel or an anti-semite...

[The True Adonis]

You are both jumping all over the place.  Ron Paul does not want to start a war with Iran.  And the "attack Iran" propaganda has nothing to do with Christianity.

This thread is about Ron Paul's view on Israel.

Poop Paul likes it when the Middle Eastern countries have Nukes.

[Deicide]

And you were responding to my question as to why it's scary to Hugo that Christians in general believe Israel will play an important role in the end times.  Why is that dangerous?  Christians, unlike Muslims, do not believe that there is anything that we can or need to do to assist God in bringing about the end times, or to accelerate the end times.  We believe that it is all in God's hands and that there is nothing we can or need to do about it.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx

[loco]

Poop Paul likes it when the Middle Eastern countries have Nukes.

I see that you and right-wing, neo-con republicans have this in common, twisting Ron Paul's words and spreading misinformation about him.

[loco]

Some right wing Christians believe in actively bringing about the end by pushing for war between Israel, the USA and Iran. They support Israel only because of theological reasons. That is dangerous. Apart from that, many people think if you don't unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Israel or an anti-semite...

I haven't met any that believe that.

[loco]

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx

Cliff notes? 

[Deicide]

Cliff notes? 

It just cites some evangelicals who do think taking an active hand in prophecy is important.

[The True Adonis]

Poopy Paul likes Nukes and he doesn`t care who knows.

[loco]

It just cites some evangelicals who do think taking an active hand in prophecy is important.

Cool!  I know lots of evangelicals.  I've never heard one say anything like that before.  So relax!

[Butterbean]

Thanks for the added info.

Cool!  I know lots of evangelicals.  I've never heard one say anything like that before.  So relax!

Seems like the only thing I've seen that could be taken as "taking an active hand in prophecy" is the spreading of the Gospel.

[loco]

Thanks for the added info.

Seems like the only thing I've seen that could be taken as "taking an active hand in prophecy" is the spreading of the Gospel.

Yup, that would be the only thing, and it has nothing to do with Israel or politics!    

[The True Adonis]

Why does Poop Paul not care if Iran has Nuclear Weapons? 

[loco]

Why does Poop Paul not care if Iran has Nuclear Weapons? 

Why do you care?  Why is your country not threatening to go to war with Russia, N. Korea, Pakistan, China and India?  They already have Nuclear Weapons.  You wanna go to war with Iran because they might some day have one Nuclear Weapon?

Ron Paul is Right on Iran

Ron Paul is the only candidate that has pointed out that the last time America went to war with a supposed major threat in the Middle East over the possibility it was harboring terrorists and might have WMDs—every justification for that war turned out to be absolutely false.

Still, Paul is the only candidate tonight that hasn’t unilaterally declared war on Iran, (or if you’re Rick Santorum, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria) for the same vague and likely unfounded reasons as the last war.

Most importantly—and this is key—Paul is the only candidate who has mentioned that we can no longer afford trillions of dollars to fight wars that don’t make sense.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/08/11/ron-paul-is-right-on-iran/

[The True Adonis]

Why do you care?  Why is your country not threatening to go to war with Russia, N. Korea, Pakistan, China and India?  They already have Nuclear Weapons.  You wanna go to war with Iran because they might some day have one Nuclear Weapon?

Ron Paul is Right on Iran

Ron Paul is the only candidate that has pointed out that the last time America went to war with a supposed major threat in the Middle East over the possibility it was harboring terrorists and might have WMDs—every justification for that war turned out to be absolutely false.

Still, Paul is the only candidate tonight that hasn’t unilaterally declared war on Iran, (or if you’re Rick Santorum, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria) for the same vague and likely unfounded reasons as the last war.

Most importantly—and this is key—Paul is the only candidate who has mentioned that we can no longer afford trillions of dollars to fight wars that don’t make sense.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/08/11/ron-paul-is-right-on-iran/

Yes because all Batshit Muslim Nations deserve to have Nuclear Weapons so they can use them as they see fit if they so decide or if Allah proclaims its a good idea to use them.

[Soul Crusher]

Ron Paul is not right on Iran.  This like him saying he was fine with baby rand playing with a loaded gun or with metal objects near the electrical outlet. 

[The True Adonis]

Ron Paul is not right on Iran.  This like him saying he was fine with baby rand playing with a loaded gun or with metal objects near the electrical outlet.  

This is where you and I agree my friend.  This is reason enough to NEVER vote for Ron Poop.  The world DOES not need another Nuclear Power, especially when the entire country is filled with moronic Shit-Brains.

[Deicide]

Ron Paul is not right on Iran.  This like him saying he was fine with baby rand playing with a loaded gun or with metal objects near the electrical outlet. 

We should invade Russia and China then as well; they have tons of nukes.

[Soul Crusher]

We should invade Russia and China then as well; they have tons of nukes.

They have shown themselves otherwise responsible with their nukes, even at the height of tensions.

Iran is a rogue nation that sponsors terrorim around the globe and has said it wants to wipe Israel off the map.   Additionally, the Saudis and many others in the region who we rely on for oil are terrified at the proposition that Iran gets a nuke since it would collapse the region almost overnight and put us into standstill if they were able to close of the straights of hormuz or commit some other heinous act with a nuke. 

I'm not saying we invade them, but a strike at their facilities like israel did to Iraq in 1982 I believe it was would not meet any objections by me.   

[The True Adonis]

We should invade Russia and China then as well; they have tons of nukes.

Russia and China are not filled with Shit-Brain Muslims governed under Sharia Law looking to establish the Caliphate.

You do realize that Iran is governed by Religious fanatics who have no interest in preserving Democracy or respecting it?

Fucking Ron Paul`s foreign policy would be a COMPLETE DISASTER, a boot-licking, ass bending over kowtow to the Muslim World.  Hell to the entire world.

Obama on foreign policy makes Ron Paul look like a little bitch which he is.

[240 is Back]

I love Ron paul's position of "Let ISR do what they want".

IMO, part of the problem - the ongoing mideast violence for decades - is that the US has prevented one side from winning.  Granted, the world knows it'll be israel that wins, but why stop them?  Do we go into the jungle and tell the lion to stop killing antelopes?  Of course not.

In 2 years, israel would have the bad guys killed/moved outta there, they'd have the remaining civilians in check, and everyone on both sides would live safer.  Why not let them handle their own business?  If Mexico was sending suicide bombers into the US, and some country in europe tried to prevent us from bombing Tijuana back to the stone ages, we'd laugh in their faces.

[The True Adonis]

I love Ron paul's position of "Let ISR do what they want".

IMO, part of the problem - the ongoing mideast violence for decades - is that the US has prevented one side from winning.  Granted, the world knows it'll be israel that wins, but why stop them?  Do we go into the jungle and tell the lion to stop killing antelopes?  Of course not.

In 2 years, israel would have the bad guys killed/moved outta there, they'd have the remaining civilians in check, and everyone on both sides would live safer.  Why not let them handle their own business?  If Mexico was sending suicide bombers into the US, and some country in europe tried to prevent us from bombing Tijuana back to the stone ages, we'd laugh in their faces.

Give Iran a Nuke, Elect Ron Paul.

ROFLMAO, that would be a great poster for someone to make.

[loco]

This is where you and I agree my friend.  This is reason enough to NEVER vote for Ron Poop.  The world DOES not need another Nuclear Power, especially when the entire country is filled with moronic Shit-Brains.

I did mention Pakistan too, didn't I?  Very convenient how you and 333386 left out Pakistan, a Muslim country with nukes, full of Muslim extremists and a country that just proved was harboring none other than Osama Bin Laden.

Why isn't USA threatening to attack Pakistan for its nukes, but instead threatens to attack Iran because it may create a nuke some time in the future?  At least Ron Paul is honest and consistent.

[Soul Crusher]

I did mention Pakistan too, didn't I?  Very convenient how you and 333386 left out Pakistan, a country with nukes, full of Muslim extremists and a country that just proved was harboring none other than Osama Bin Laden.

Why isn't USA threatening to attack Pakistan for its nukes, but instead threatens to attack Iran because it may create a nuke some time in the future?  At least Ron Paul is honest and consistent.

Maybe not repeating the same mistake twice?  Plus, Pakistan is very unstable and we already have plans to secure their nukes because those crazies are not responsible at all. 

[loco]

Maybe not repeating the same mistake twice?  Plus, Pakistan is very unstable and we already have plans to secure their nukes because those crazies are not responsible at all.  

I don't hear the other republican candidates say this.  All they talk about is attacking Iran.

[The True Adonis]

I did mention Pakistan too, didn't I?  Very convenient how you and 333386 left out Pakistan, a country with nukes, full of Muslim extremists and a country that just proved was harboring none other than Osama Bin Laden.

Why isn't USA threatening to attack Pakistan for its nukes, but instead threatens to attack Iran because it may create a nuke some time in the future?  At least Ron Paul is honest and consistent.

Why do we have to attack nations that already have Nukes?  I want to prevent any more nations from getting them so we don`t have to attack anybody.  Furthermore, It was a failure of policy between China and the United States for allowing the Indo-Paki war to take place. Nixons greatest Failure other than failing the entire office of the Presidency itself.

This is what Pakistan`s Leader said about acquiring Nukes: If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass and leaves for a thousand years, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own. The Christians have the bomb, the Jews have the bomb and now the Hindus have the bomb. Why not the Muslims too have the bomb?[25][26]

Iran is even more batshit than that.  Why should we let it happen?  At least under Obama, he knows they are fucking nuts and has stated that he would NEVER let them have a Nuclear weapon. EVER.

Iran has no business with a Nuclear Weapon.  None.  Are you really going to argue for the development of Nuclear Weapons for Iran?

Fucking Paultards are crazy.  Pretzels I tell ya.  Pretzels.