1996 Arnold-Kev, Flex, Dillett, Vince, Ray

[bigbobs]

FAAAAAAAAAAWK paul is a monster 

Until he has to stand next to Nasser

[Kulutues]

^ odd you post that pic paul looks much bigger to me

[bigbobs]

^ odd you post that pic paul looks much bigger to me

Paul is taller yes but Nasser is much thicker and more muscular.  Dillet's pecs and lats look almost non-existent next to Nasser's

[Parker]

Until he has to stand next to Nasser

Again, why do you ALWAYS include Nasser in almost every thread that doesn't have him? Look stop Pimpin' him.

[Kulutues]

Nasser more muscular than Paul haha so are you Nasser's son? Thicker = meaningless in bodybuilding, Franco Columbo was thicker than Arnold, but was 10x worse bodybuilder.  Branch Warren = thick, again it means nothing.  Nasser = huge gut and torso, narrow, shitty overall structure and muscle shape

[Nirvana]

Nasser more muscular than Paul haha so are you Nasser's son? Thicker = meaningless in bodybuilding, Franco Columbo was thicker than Arnold, but was 10x worse bodybuilder.  Branch Warren = thick, again it means nothing.  Nasser = huge gut and torso, narrow, shitty overall structure and muscle shape

you're kidding right?

[Kulutues]

Nasser's structure is just inferior, can't hold enough mass that isn't insulin or oil

[Kulutues]

you're kidding right?

What happened to Nasser's back/rear delts?  Disappeared in comparison to his hams/gut

[bigbobs]

Nasser more muscular than Paul haha so are you Nasser's son? Thicker = meaningless in bodybuilding, Franco Columbo was thicker than Arnold, but was 10x worse bodybuilder.  Branch Warren = thick, again it means nothing.  Nasser = huge gut and torso, narrow, shitty overall structure and muscle shape

wtf Nasser worse structure and shape than Dillet?  Nasser consistently beat Paul during his prime in tons of shows, wasn't even close.

[bigbobs]

Nasser's structure is just inferior, can't hold enough mass that isn't insulin or oil

Desperation = "conveniently" choosing a picture from 94 before Nasser blew up.  94 Nasser vs. 95 - 99 = night and day difference.

[Kulutues]

wtf Nasser worse structure and shape than Dillet?  Nasser consistently beat Paul during his prime in tons of shows, wasn't even close.

yeh lets take IFBB judging as gospel they havent been wrong tons of times before..

[Kulutues]

Desperation = "conveniently" choosing a picture from 94 before Nasser blew up.  94 Nasser vs. 95 - 99 = night and day difference.

It's not like all the oil or insulin made him look better

[bigbobs]

It's not like all the oil or insulin made him look better

It's obvious you're just trolling now.  You had me going for a few posts though as I did take you seroiusly enough to reply to lol.

[Kulutues]

Ok man just tell urself im trolling i dont care.  Also, someone with arms as inferior as Nassers should never have been able to win a BBing competition in the 90s with how many complete physiques were out there

[Kulutues]

try to follow this logic bigbobs

know how much better kevin levrone and flex wheeler in 1996 were than any Nasser physique?  Well this is how much bigger and wider Paul was than them both in 1996.  Ergo, Pauls best was much, much better than anything Nasser could ever hope for

1996 AC

[Figo]

paul dillet had a much better "stage presence" than nasser, nasser may have had him on some bodyparts, but overall, paul's look was superior

[Parker]

Desperation = "conveniently" choosing a picture from 94 before Nasser blew up.  94 Nasser vs. 95 - 99 = night and day difference.

And it was also before Dillett blew up...and stop making this a Nasser vs____ thread.
Nasser, this, Nasser that. Everybody know that you have a hardon for him, even your wife. Just come out of the closet already

[G_Thang]

And it was also before Dillett blew up...and stop making this a Nasser vs____ thread.
Nasser, this, Nasser that. Everybody know that you have a hardon for him, even your wife. Just come out of the closet already

Hahaha.

[bigbobs]

try to follow this logic bigbobs

know how much better kevin levrone and flex wheeler in 1996 were than any Nasser physique?  Well this is how much bigger and wider Paul was than them both in 1996.  Ergo, Pauls best was much, much better than anything Nasser could ever hope for

logic is showing a screencap of Paul vs. other bodybuilders (who were also smaller next to Nasser) and then saying therefore Paul must look bigger than Nasser too?  All that despite the fact that I've posted a comparison above and here's another of the two standing together?  I was actually giving you benefit of the doubt by concluding that you were just trolling



And btw both Kevin and Flex lost to Nasser just months later at the Olympia the same year (Paul too I believe or did he skip that show?) yet you're stating it as fact that their 96 look was better than any year of Nasser.  Reasons like that are why I find it hard to believe you're not trolling.

[bigbobs]

paul dillet had a much better "stage presence" than nasser, nasser may have had him on some bodyparts, but overall, paul's look was superior

 

[Palpatine Q]

Bigger isn't always better...Nasser had a decided mass advantage on Flex, Shawn and Kevin....yet was routinely owned by them because they had vastly superior physiques.

Also they didn't make FOOLS out of themselves by going onstage with horridly obvious synthol enhancements like bighead did

[bigbobs]

Bigger isn't always better...Nasser had a decided mass advantage on Flex, Shawn and Kevin....yet was routinely owned by them because they had vastly superior physiques.

Also they didn't make FOOLS out of themselves by going onstage with horridly obvious synthol enhancements like bighead did

From 95 to 99 (during Nasser's prime years) he actually routinely owned Shawn and Kevin - beat them more times than he lost to them.  With Wheeler, Nasser placed higher in 96/97, then they placed wheeler higher in 97/98.  

One can argue that contest placings are not the end all (I often argue this too), but then I support my opinions with comparison pics.  The guys in this thread however are going against both comparison picture evidence and contest results to say Dillet was better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

From 95 to 99 (during Nasser's prime years) he actually routinely owned Shawn and Kevin - beat them more times than he lost to them.  With Wheeler, Nasser placed higher in 96/97, then they placed wheeler higher in 97/98.  

One can argue that contest placings are not the end all (I often argue this too), but then I support my opinions with comparison pics.  The guys in this thread however are going against both comparison picture evidence and contest results to say Dillet was better.

From 95 to 99 (during Nasser's prime years) he actually routinely owned Shawn and Kevin - beat them more times than he lost to them.

Wrong as usual ( think before you type. ) from 1995-1999 when directly competing against Nasser , Kevin beat him 17 times to Nasser's 10 returning the favor

1995 Kevin beat Nasser 5 times
1996 Nasser beat Kevin 6 times
1997 Kevin beat Nasser 7 times and Nasser beat him 2
1998 Kevin beat Nasser 2 times and Nasser beat him 1
1999 Kevin beat Nasser 3 times and Nasser beat him 1

You didn't learn your lesson the last time you tried to compare Kevin to Nasser? Over the course of both their ENTIRE careers directly comparing Nasser to Kevin it gets worse for Nasser


Now Shawn is another story because Shawn rarely ventured out of the Olympia however

1995 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1996 Nasser failed the diuretics test however lets entertain he didn't lose his spot he competed and lost to Shawn
1997 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1998 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1999 Shawn beat Nasser 1 time

So sticking to your limited time-line ( which you only used to try and serve your slanted purposes ) Nasser only beat Shawn one time more than Shawn beat him in his ' prime years '

Now contest placements are the end-be-all in deciding who is the better WHEN THEY ARE DIRECTLY COMPARED TO EACH OTHER this is just another case of you trying to turn Nasser into something more than what he was and some feeble attempt at bending their careers to fit your point of view ( lame )

How many times did Shawn beat Nasser through out their careers when directly compared to each other?

From 1994 to 2001 Shawn faced Nasser 8 times and Shawn beat him 5 of those 8 with Nasser winning just 3 times , so Shawn is a better bodybuilder than Nasser , and not in some ' prime years ' nonsense , as a whole when all things are considered


Now Nasser compared to Dillett , there really is no room to play with , Nasser was just better competitive bodybuilder when directly compared to him , no one can really say other wise , they can harp on aesthetics , structure but facts are facts and the fact is while Nasser was better than Paul , he wasn't in Shawn's , Flex's or Kevin's league no matter how you try and slant it so.

[bigbobs]

From 95 to 99 (during Nasser's prime years) he actually routinely owned Shawn and Kevin - beat them more times than he lost to them.

Wrong as usual ( think before you type. ) from 1995-1999 when directly competing against Nasser , Kevin beat him 17 times to Nasser's 10 returning the favor

1995 Kevin beat Nasser 5 times
1996 Nasser beat Kevin 6 times
1997 Kevin beat Nasser 7 times and Nasser beat him 2
1998 Kevin beat Nasser 2 times and Nasser beat him 1
1999 Kevin beat Nasser 3 times and Nasser beat him 1

You didn't learn your lesson the last time you tried to compare Kevin to Nasser? Over the course of both their ENTIRE careers directly comparing Nasser to Kevin it gets worse for Nasser


Now Shawn is another story because Shawn rarely ventured out of the Olympia however

1995 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1996 Nasser failed the diuretics test however lets entertain he didn't lose his spot he competed and lost to Shawn
1997 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1998 Nasser beat Shawn 1 time
1999 Shawn beat Nasser 1 time

So sticking to your limited time-line ( which you only used to try and serve your slanted purposes ) Nasser only beat Shawn one time more than Shawn beat him in his ' prime years '

Now contest placements are the end-be-all in deciding who is the better WHEN THEY ARE DIRECTLY COMPARED TO EACH OTHER this is just another case of you trying to turn Nasser into something more than what he was and some feeble attempt at bending their careers to fit your point of view ( lame )

How many times did Shawn beat Nasser through out their careers when directly compared to each other?

From 1994 to 2001 Shawn faced Nasser 8 times and Shawn beat him 5 of those 8 with Nasser winning just 3 times , so Shawn is a better bodybuilder than Nasser , and not in some ' prime years ' nonsense , as a whole when all things are considered


Now Nasser compared to Dillett , there really is no room to play with , Nasser was just better competitive bodybuilder when directly compared to him , no one can really say other wise , they can harp on aesthetics , structure but facts are facts and the fact is while Nasser was better than Paul , he wasn't in Shawn's , Flex's or Kevin's league no matter how you try and slant it so.

LOL not going to argue in detail with you on all of your aboe because we have over the years in various threads and there's nothing new to be said, but I'll summarize some of your flaws here:

You selective pick certain statistics and leave out qualititative factors.  For example ignoring the fact that in several of the shows during which the names above lost to Nasser the discrepency in placings was huge (ex. Shawn, Kevin and Flex each had placings well out of the top 5 whereas Nasser did not from 95 to the 99 AC).  

Your stats also give equal weighting to shows at the end of one's career, so if one continues to compete past their prime your stats make them into a worse bodybuilder when in actuality that does not change anything (for example Ronnie can continue competing until he's 60 and never place well but that doesn't take anything away from him).

Also not too long ago you did post that Nasser was more sucessful than Shawn since Shawn only had (two?) pro victories vs. Nasser's 6.  Now in this post you're saying nasser is not in Shawn's league lol - so a more succesful bodybuilder is not in the less succesful bodybuilder's league lol.

So sometimes your measure is # of pro victories, other times it's who beat who how often (while ignoring the gap between placings so a 2nd vs. 3rd placing counts the same as a 3rd vs. 8th).

Also above you're completely ignoring Nasser's 96 Olympia placing over Kevin while still mentioning Nasser's 96 placing against Shawn.  Like I said numerous biases and selective statistics.  

I know you'll send another lengthy meltdown reply (you have the time and energy to do so almost daily for years with Hulkster lol)

[bigbobs]

^^^ Another example that just came to mind is how when trying to argue for Mike Francois you conveniently use the statistic of # of wins / number of shows competed in - since he did not compete in many shows before his injury, while ignoring stats such as # of pro wins in total, # of 2nd or 3rd placings, etc.  The latter stats you use if/when it helps support the "athlete" you are biased towards.