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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2011/aug/17/barack-obama-second-term-republicans


Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds

Ineffective and unpopular, the president should be a sitting duck, but the Republicans are turning their fire on themselves

Let's take the day off from picking over the ruins of our own miserable riots and try to cheer ourselves up over Barack Obama's good fortune. What good fortune? I hear you ask. Surely he has just been humiliated over the US budget debacle and the decision of a cowboy credit rating agency to tweak America's triple-A credit status. His standing in the polls is sagging, now below 40%.

Well, yes, that's all true. And he has not been a particularly brave or effective president either. Democrat or Republican, I'd be pretty disappointed, too. But election campaigns are about choice of both candidate and their policies. So Obama's luck lies in the near-unbelievable fact that the Republicans look determined either to pick a loser or refuse to vote for someone who could win.

In the past few days, newspapers have been full of reports about the Republican field, as displayed at the Iowa "straw poll" – a pretty phoney beauty contest ("institutionalised bribery" – Sunday Telegraph) even more fixable than next January's Iowa caucus – and not displayed, in the sense that two wannabe presidents, Mitt Romney and Rick Perry, stayed away.

The straw poll was won by the Minnesota congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, who is this season's Sarah Palin, though not so wacky or whimsical. She who has five children, has fostered 23 more, and is an evangelical Christian conservative popular with Tea Party activists. Last winter, I argued here that ex-governor Palin was and is unelectable as president ("That's not a prediction, it's personal guarantee").

From this distance, Bachmann ("the Queen of Rage") looks a better bet, but not much better. She talks better and she knows more – hey, she's been to Washington in the day job – but she is likely to frighten independent voters, who will decide the 2012 presidential election.

The president, seeking a second term, ought to be a sitting duck. Eloquent and clever, he is too didactic – an ingrained Democratic vice, much as it is in the Labour and (yes, Nick Clegg) the Lib Dems – and fails to reach into American hearts the way a Reagan or Clinton could. He leaned to the left, then trimmed to the centre – or do I mean right? - and failed to provide decisive leadership from the White House.

It doesn't prevent knuckle-dragging congressfolk like Florida's Allen West dismissing him as "a low-level socialist agitator, which is more or less Tea Party-speak for "child molester" or "bank robber" – though, as Robin Hood types, bank robbers do have a following.

As ex-Dem-turned-Reagan-speechwriter Peggy Noonan wrote in the Wall Street Journal, Obama has also proved a hard man to like outside his core constituency. That's bad. More to the point, unemployment remains stubbornly high – over 9% is historically fatal for incumbents – and Obama's fiscal stimulus has petered out.

Clever, rich people such as George Soros, as well as mere economists and politicians, argue that the stimulus wasn't big enough and was withdrawn too soon in favour of debt fetishism – the kind of premature debt reduction that is helping squeeze the British economic recovery, too. Yes, I know the UK has (so far) avoided a market panic over its creditworthiness – excellent – but that is to replace one problem with another. We are likely to discover which is worse quite soon. Back to the 30s?

Clever, rich people such as Warren Buffett, also argue – he did it again this week – that rich people are not taxed enough in America; also that there is a class war (his class, the rich, has declared war on the poor, and is winning, he says) and needs to be taxed more. Hey, Buffett has only made £30bn or so, sitting there in Omaha – it's the Norwich of Nebraska – quietly investing and ignoring the Wall Street herd.

So what does he know? He's probably a high-level socialist agitator! That's how Tea Party thinkers think, and how their wannabe candidates encourage them to think. Fortunately, most of them are such no-hopers – remember flaky Newt Gingrich, for example? His staff quit en masse last month; they sacked their candidate! – that they're barely worth mentioning. I do have a soft spot for Ron Paul, a veteran Texan congressman (he's 75) who is a libertarian and at least consistent. For instance, he is anti-war.

Which brings us to Rick Perry, governor of Texas for a record 10 years and the latest bright star to burst on the Republican firmament. Perry sat out Iowa but announced his candidacy last weekend to steal the straw poll's thunder. OK, that's a legitimate tactic. And Perry can, and does, point to the fact that 40% of all new jobs created in the US since mid-2009 were created in the lone star state – 1m during his tenure as governor. Surprise surprise, Perry credits his business-friendly policies.

Well, we're all in favour of business-friendly policies, Indeed, we're so business-friendly around here that we fight valiantly to protect many businessmen from their own macro-economic stupidity.

Alas, it gets worse from here on. Governor Perry's version of brash Texan – admittedly, he's the real deal, not a Yale-educated counterfeit – makes George W Bush look like a Greenwich Village pinko. He's a committed Christian, which is OK, too, until you learn he recently staged a religious rally attended by 30,000 supporters. I'd say that will make a few independent voters nervous, too, even before they hear the killer Perry/Bush joke: "Bush was the smart one."

A few stats from the FT before we leave Texas. Oil and immigration may explain quite a lot of Texas's economic success. The state often thrives when other parts of the US are suffering – and vice versa. It's all tied to world oil prices. But unemployment in Texas is still 8.2% – not much below the US average. The state has very low wages, has more people on health insurance than any other, and also has 17% of its population living below the poverty line, according to the 2009 US census.

At this stage most Europeans won't need to be told that Governor Perry (61) opposes gay marriage and abortion, supports Texas's death penalty (to be fair, that's only prudent) and doesn't think much of manmade global warming as a theory. Oh yes, he has also hacked off supporters of his former patron, ex-president Bush II, by being rude about him. Bad move: ask Saddam Hussein.

So you can see why thoughtful Republicans still look to boring Mitt Romney (64), ex-governor of Massachusetts ("Burn more gas, freeze a Yankee" used to be a popular car bumper sticker in Texas; they had Massachusetts in mind), to be the moderate candidate to defeat Obama in the middle ground. Ah, but he's a Mormon (deeply mistrusted, but less than last time) and organised a state health plan that looks too much like Obama's health reform to Tea Party types.

In the old days, the party bosses would have tapped Romney or the ex-Utah governor Jon Huntsman (51) on the shoulder and the party would have fallen into line. But Huntsman is also a Morman: one who speaks Chinese and accepted the Beijing embassy from Obama – bad stuff ! Pro-gay, pro-climate change reform: no thanks.

As Andrew Hacker points out in the current edition of the New York Review of Books, "for practical purposes (US) national parties have ceased to exist". So there are no levers to pull. If the ideologues pick one of their own – it's what Labour did with Michael Foot in 1980, the Tories with William Hague in 1997 – they lose the centre ground. But if Romney, Huntsman or even Minnesota's ex-governor Tim Pawlenty (he favours cutting anything you can find on Google) – win through to become the candidate, the zealots may do what they did to John McCain in 2008 or Bob Dole in 1996: stay at home and not vote.

That's the point Hacker's article really hammers home: the sweeping Republican gains in Congress in the midterm elections of 2010 were on the usual 40% turnout; Obama was elected in 2008 on a 61% turnout. Yet it is the Republicans who think they have a mandate from the American people. Enthusiasm rather than money – Obama had plenty of that too – decides these things, a willingness to vote.

On the evidence, Obama is well placed to win again once voters have had a chance to savour what the uncompromising 2010 Congress has done for them: not much. Give 'em Hell, Harry! Truman pulled it off in similar circumstances in 1948 by attacking the record of a pro-business, low-tax Congress; this Congress, says Warren Buffett, no less, is the friend of billionaires.

Winning shouldn't be too difficult – even for Obama, even in a double-dip recession, which we hope won't blight the US – or Tottenham.


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The republican frauds need to get their act together, because Bachmann and Perry (Little Obama Clones) will not get OB out of office.

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 11:12:39 AM »
obama is gone.   Look at his polls in NY, PA, NJ, etc. 


He is going down like mondale at this rate.   

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 11:15:49 AM »
Black caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama
byByron York
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During a sometimes-raucous session of what's being called the "For the People" Jobs Initiative tour, a key member of the Congressional Black Caucus told an audience in Detroit Tuesday that the CBC doesn't put pressure on President Obama because he is loved by black voters.  But at the same time, Rep. Maxine Waters said, members of the CBC are becoming increasingly tired and frustrated by Obama's performance on the issue of jobs. Even as she expressed support for the president, Waters virtually invited the crowd to "unleash us" to pressure Obama for action.

"We don't put pressure on the president," Waters told the audience at Wayne State Community College.  "Let me tell you why. We don't put pressure on the president because ya'll love the president. You love the president. You're very proud to have a black man -- first time in the history of the United States of America. If we go after the president too hard, you're going after us."

The problem, Waters said, is that Obama is not paying enough attention to the problems of some black Americans.  The unemployment rate for African-Americans nationally is a little over 16 percent, and almost twice that in Detroit.  And yet, Waters said, the president is on a jobs-promotion trip through the Midwest that does not include any stops in black communities.  "The Congressional Black Caucus loves the president too," Waters said.  "We're supportive of the president, but we're getting tired, ya'll.  We're getting tired. And so, what we want to do is, we want to give the president every opportunity to show what he can do and what he's prepared to lead on. We want to give him every opportunity, but our people are hurting. The unemployment is unconscionable. We don't know what the strategy is. We don't know why on this trip that he's in the United States now, he's not in any black community.  We don't know that."

As she discussed her dilemma -- frustrated with the president but hesitant to criticize him lest black supporters turn on her -- Waters asked the crowd for its permission to have a "conversation" with the president.  "When you tell us it's alright and you unleash us and you tell us you're ready for us to have this conversation, we're ready to have the conversation," she said.  Some members of the crowd immediately voiced their approval.

"All I'm saying to you is, we're politicians," Waters continued.  "We're elected officials.  We are trying to do the right thing and the best thing. When you let us know it is time to let go, we'll let go."

"Let go!" some in the audience yelled.



Waters attended the meeting with fellow members of Congress Reps. John Conyers, Hansen Clarke, Emanuel Cleaver, and Gregory Meeks.  The panel discussion in Detroit was moderated by Jeff Johnson of TheGrio.com, who wrote an account of the session here.  The tour included a stop in Cleveland and will also go to Miami, Atlanta, and Los Angeles.



http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/black-caucus-tired-making-excuses-obama


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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2011, 11:16:58 AM »
obama is gone.   Look at his polls in NY, PA, NJ, etc. 


He is going down like mondale at this rate.   


Didn't you declare Obamacare wouldn't pass, too?

Are you just as sure this time, too?

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 11:18:01 AM »

Didn't you declare Obamacare wouldn't pass, too?

Are you just as sure this time, too?

Yes.   obamacare is going down at the SC and still has rating of over 53 percent wanting it ended. 



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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 11:59:19 AM »
Yes.   obamacare is going down at the SC and still has rating of over 53 percent wanting it ended. 




Didn't you claim during health care debates no less, that the majority didn't matter?  I believe you did when the polls showed a majority of Americans wanted reform and a new style of health care.  It may not be what Obama passed but they wanted reform and you said that it didn't matter if they were a majority or not. 

You lack more and more credibility every day.
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 12:02:53 PM »
Didn't you claim during health care debates no less, that the majority didn't matter?  I believe you did when the polls showed a majority of Americans wanted reform and a new style of health care.  It may not be what Obama passed but they wanted reform and you said that it didn't matter if they were a majority or not. 

You lack more and more credibility every day.

Americans wanted reform and lower costs, not lies, distortions, kick backs, and bullshit like ObamaCare. 

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 12:08:54 PM »
Americans wanted reform and lower costs, not lies, distortions, kick backs, and bullshit like ObamaCare. 

You're right, and they wanted universal coverage which you opposed.  The biggest health care 'issue' there was. 

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 12:16:56 PM »
You're right, and they wanted universal coverage which you opposed.  The biggest health care 'issue' there was. 



Really? The biggest health care issue there is that the federal government got involved in something they have no constitutional authority over.
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 12:19:26 PM »
We're all doomed anyway...
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 12:21:03 PM »
We're all doomed anyway...

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 12:23:25 PM »
Maybe you are, I'm prepared to ride out the storm

By doom, I meant that the system will collapse and no one will be able to escape it.
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 12:30:42 PM »
Really? The biggest health care issue there is that the federal government got involved in something they have no constitutional authority over.

No during and after the election.  A majority of Americans wanted universal coverage or at the very least, to not be dropped or denied coverage.  That was the issue with health care reform.  Cost was a factor but doesn't mean jack if you can't even get coverage. 
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 12:34:44 PM »
No during and after the election.  A majority of Americans wanted universal coverage or at the very least, to not be dropped or denied coverage.  That was the issue with health care reform.  Cost was a factor but doesn't mean jack if you can't even get coverage. 

That's because most Americans have an attention span of a gnat, government involvement in the health care industry is a key factor in the cost. But sure hand the rest of it over to the incompetents in DC
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 12:36:14 PM »
Health care reform? When did that every happen?

Insurance reform is what happened.

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2011, 12:48:22 PM »
The article is wrong. It doesnt matter how much the opposition shoots themselves in the foot, the incumbent usually loses when he is this unpopular. In America, when you fail so monumentally as Obama has, you lose. It doesnt matter who the opponent is. Would I feel uneasy if Bachmann were the nominee? Yes. But its too early to tell who will win. Lets have some debates with Perry first. People are looking way too far into these recent Rassmussen polls. I wouldnt be surprised if Romney becomes the frontrunner again after a couple of more debates.

Oh, and this guy's excuse about high oil prices being the reason Texas is so dominant is stupid and simplistic. Its my understanding that energy is something like 10% of Texas's GDP.
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2011, 12:49:50 PM »
Most of the country hopes so.  But the people of our country rare not represented in our government

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2011, 01:35:50 PM »
The Guardian? Of course they're saying that as they're the NY Slimes of England. You could hide the titles of the both papers and they would read exactly the same: complete shit.

Funny how the objective news sources say he's in for the fight of his life.

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2011, 01:38:08 PM »
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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 02:09:32 PM »
IF IF IF Obama wins a second term-

Who will getbiggers blame?

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 02:12:35 PM »
IF IF IF Obama wins a second term-

Who will getbiggers blame?

The 95ers, the guilt ridden whites, the dopers, the enviro marxists, lulac, la raza, govt employee unions, etc. 

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Re: Barack Obama is on course for a second term – against all the odds
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2011, 02:14:07 PM »
IF IF IF Obama wins a second term-

Who will getbiggers blame?

Only you bro, only you
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