Can low dosed test (200mg a week) be used simply to improve quality of life?

[dyslexic]

Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.

If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.

Bad move.

You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.

In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.


Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.


Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.

[tbombz]

Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.

If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.

Bad move.

You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.

In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.


Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.


Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.

nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.

[Coach is Back!]

not 200mg, but 400mg-500mg is perfect for this.  When it comes to finding a wifey, 400mg testo is the sweetspot for whores to  thinking you are a contruction worker with wide shoulders and a thick  forearms.

. now.. you still wont look like you workout  at that shit dose:D but your wife will think you eat lots of steak and potatoes and you will feel on top of the world in terms of mood.

as of 8/20/2011 I no longer call 500mg testo crusing ..it is now to be called the "handy man who fucks your wife"

Ridiculous, to maintain a good quality of life (depending on age) 200mg every OTHER week is plenty.

[DroppingPlates]

I feel the same way; we cannot choose where we are born...

Yes, so why should we think something like: "our" culture is better than "that" culture? When you study a random culture (history, social behaviour, laws, etc..) you will always find "good" and "bad" aspects.

Regarding your avatar, liberalism is an interesting way of thinking, regarding individual and collective freedom. I don't know much about it's philosophy yet, a good reason to dig in.

[Deicide]

Yes, so why should we think something like: "our" culture is better than "that" culture? When you study a random culture (history, social behaviour, laws, etc..) you will always find "good" and "bad" aspects.

Regarding your avatar, liberalism is an interesting way of thinking, regarding individual and collective freedom. I don't know much about it's philosophy yet, a good reason to dig in.

Classical liberalism that is...

[dyslexic]

nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.

Tbombz, are you serious? I have lab done every 3 months (for other reasons) ~ I am gonna be 49 this year. My test levels are at 500 nanograms per decilitre.

If I was to start inj. 200 mg of exogenous test, my hypothalmus would shut down (eventually) and be reliant on the 200 mg.

Are you saying that exogenous/synthetic test is more powerful than what a human makes? I mean, it has carboxylic acid (esther for time release) and benzo alcohol for purity sake... basically, it's diluted.


I mean correct me if I'm wrong. What do you know that I don't on this matter?

[tbombz]

Tbombz, are you serious? I have lab done every 3 months (for other reasons) ~ I am gonna be 49 this year. My test levels are at 500 nanograms per decilitre.

If I was to start inj. 200 mg of exogenous test, my hypothalmus would shut down (eventually) and be reliant on the 200 mg.

Are you saying that exogenous/synthetic test is more powerful than what a human makes? I mean, it has carboxylic acid (esther for time release) and benzo alcohol for purity sake... basically, it's diluted.


I mean correct me if I'm wrong. What do you know that I don't on this matter?

i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml...      which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 1000ng/decileter.  if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.

thats a conservative estimate though as some guys have said that one hr of 200mg per week their levels are about 2000ng/dl..   

[Coach is Back!]

200mg every other is plenty.

[Van_Bilderass]

i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml...      which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 800-1000ng/decileter.  if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.

Just 100mg might put one at 800-1000ng or even more when it peaks.

That retard Palumbo is one example of a guy who says 200mg is equivalent to natural production. 

My brother did just 5 or 6 amps of test recently, one per week, and decided to stop due to sides. Heavy edema in ankles, watch didn't fit, scale moved up 10lbs almost immediately. He is also over 30 years old. Hardly equal to normal production.

[flinstones1]

Ridiculous, to maintain a good quality of life (depending on age) 200mg every OTHER week is plenty.

listen here motherfuck, do not come and tell me about your fake trt from that stupid clinic you bend over for from Big Dick Bob. Trust me I know american market better than you and physicians are  allowed to prescribe up to 600mg week without breaking the law. Not this 150mg shit you hear. Now 200mg every other  week in the asscheek will have you feeling like shit by day 10. I know causse I put 60 year old father on it year ago and made him get scryp! Moment he talk to doctor and he go to 200mg weekly he is back! 200mg every week is very very good dose for 50 year old who's biggest task is going to farmers market on Sunday morning and getting newspaper. But that does not change the fact that without 500mg a little dwarfe like you would not be able to bench 225, even with those shorts arrms you  leprichaun.

[flinstones1]

i think your equating ng per decileter with mg per ml...      which is wrong. a single shot of 250mg test per week usually puts most guys at about 1000ng/decileter.  if you have 500ng naturally thats pretty damn good but its about half of what youd have on hrt.

thats a conservative estimate though as some guys have said that one hr of 200mg per week their levels are about 2000ng/dl..  

 depends on how you metabolize ester. Last time I called father back home  he was on 200mg a week and his levels were around 800ng/dl and feels great with no sides but that puts alot of guys at 1500ng/dl and I dont think there is fake Watson in American pharmacies lol.  

[Van_Bilderass]

depends on how you metabolize ester. Last time I called father back home  he was on 200mg a week and his levels were around 800ng/dl and feels great with no sides but that puts alot of guys at 1500ng/dl and I dont think there is fake Watson in American pharmacies lol.  

Depends on when you get tested relative to the shot too. Peak is at about day 2 IIRC.

[nosleep]

not 200mg, but 400mg-500mg is perfect for this.  When it comes to finding a wifey, 400mg testo is the sweetspot for whores to  thinking you are a contruction worker with wide shoulders and a thick  forearms.

. now.. you still wont look like you workout  at that shit dose:D but your wife will think you eat lots of steak and potatoes and you will feel on top of the world in terms of mood.

as of 8/20/2011 I no longer call 500mg testo crusing ..it is now to be called the "handy man who fucks your wife"

WRONG. I TAKE LESS AND AM LIVING PROOF 250-37MG OF TOP QUALITY HUMAN GRADE TEST CAN BUILD GOOD MUSCLE.

[flinstones1]

Depends on when you get tested relative to the shot too. Peak is at about day 2 IIRC.

Yeah true, also  what I find funny is these docs putting these guys on 400mg once a month lol

[Coach is Back!]

I didn't say I took 200mg everyother week did I? I said that 200mg every other week is plenty to maintain an and in most cases improve quality of life. I personally take 150mg per week. Now just on a side note....the only doctor that should be prescribing ANY homone is an endocrinologist.....not a GP, not a chrio. No one BUT an endocrinologist. You sir (or child) are an idiot.

[flinstones1]

I didn't say I took 200mg everyother week did I? I said that 200mg every other week is plenty to maintain an and in most cases improve quality of life. I personally take 150mg per week. Now just on a side note....the only doctor that should be prescribing ANY homone is an endocrinologist.....not a GP, not a chrio. No one BUT an endocrinologist. You sir (or child) are an idiot.

[nosleep]

Seems to me the most intelligent thing to do would be to go to your doctor, tell him that your energy levels and sex drive are low, and then ask for complete lab.

If all you are going to ad is 200mg., you might be going backwards. If at this time you are "naturally" making 400 ng. per dl., you would shut down your own testosterone manufacturing system, and your body would adjust to a lesser amount of exogenous.

Bad move.

You might possibly be making much more than 200 ng per dl a week.

In essence, you would need 500 to 750 mg to get that "pep" you are looking for, and then you will stay "on" forever.


Do your research. This sounds like something a teenager would do just b/c it's "steroids" ~ without realizing the science behind it.


Not to mention the unnecessary loss of cash.

NO.

DO YOUR RESEARCH.

NOBODY PRODUCES 200MG/TEST NATURALLY.....NOBODY.TRY LESS THAN 5% OF THAT.

[WillGrant]

When I spoke with my endo her REF guide stated that Testo should be injected every 21 days - now that is the starting area for this med - blood work will show if this is doing the right thing for yourself - if not then doses will be changed to get you back into the normal ranges.

When I first started Test I used 250mg a week and felt fantastic - just had a buzz of feel good all the time - didn't really notice "much" in the gym so have moved to BB doses that suit myself and my goals, but on 250mg a week you will notice a huge increase in feeling good and more energy.  

[Arnold jr]

I mean, even if they are normal, would one 'feel better'? you know, have more bounce in your step and feel more positive?

Absolutely.

Biologically speaking, no. I am 34. Optimal hormone production ceases after 25 as you well know.

If you're over 30 it's always worth looking into. A lot of the garbage you read says a normal man's test levels won't really drop until he's in his 40's but that's just the anti-steroid crowd talking out of the side of their mouth. Plenty of guys start dropping in their 30's, even early 30's. I'd be willing to bet a lot of guys in their 30's have lower testosterone than they think.

nobody makes enough natty test to compare to 200mg per week. maybe a teen with great genetics comes close, but that amount puts you in the very high end range of where your levels should be. true hrt is like 100-150mg per week i think? plus, your body responds to the amount of androgens you put in. if you didnt put in more than what you already have you wont be getting completely shut down, youll still produce enough to make up the gap.

Agree with the milligram stuff....200mg per wk is going to send most any average man far beyond natural production. As far as the shutdown though of natural test, this one is a little more ifffy....suppression with exogenous testosterone is obviously going to be 100% with high long-term doses but these lower end doses can vary in-terms of total shut down. You start adding in exogenous testosterone even at small amounts a lot of guys will shut down 100% while others won't....it's impossible to predict.

[Viking11]

I realise that that dose is nothing for building muscle but as a mood and energy pick-me-up, would anyone recommend it?

Over 40- heck yes.  Maybe over 35 in some cases.  HGH if it ever gets cheap enough 2 ius a day (no I have not been able to do that yet.) Eat well, train and you're golden with the above.  No you wont win shows, but you would look and feel better (and you can get VERY strong on that amount too, I have done it.)

[StanZoLOL]

Just 100mg might put one at 800-1000ng or even more when it peaks.

That retard Palumbo is one example of a guy who says 200mg is equivalent to natural production. 

My brother did just 5 or 6 amps of test recently, one per week, and decided to stop due to sides. Heavy edema in ankles, watch didn't fit, scale moved up 10lbs almost immediately. He is also over 30 years old. Hardly equal to normal production.

I get that (swollen ankles/feet especially) just from 250mg Test E. A lot more Test P doesn't do that at all, though. No sides in fact. Far fucking better gains too. Any idea why that might be?