A Texans's Answer to Welfare (must read)

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

agree 100%. There are a lot  of Americans who desperately want a job. This guy is an idiot.

The majority of unemployed people are there because their job is obsolete and no longer needed due to technology along with increased dropout rates from high schools.  

I would simply recommend that the unemployed need to be re-educated to learn a new trade that keeps up with advances in technology, parents need to be punished for their kids dropping out of school.  Food stamps cards can be programmed to disallow the purchase of junk food just like it does with cigarettes and alcohol.  

We also need to reduce our dependence on resources.  Wind Turbines are now very inexpensive to purchase and install and use and could cut electric bills a great deal plus the newer ones are rated at 130mph winds.  I'm installing 3 of them on my home next year for about 2,500 dollars which will pay for themselves in less than a years time.  In fact, I'll actually get paid from the electric company on top of that.  Gardening should also be utilized as well so that we can stay healthier and reduce grocery bills.  During the summer, if I'm wanting a snack, I go out to the garden and pick a cucumber, cut it into slices and add a sprinkle of Celtic sea salt for a delicious snack along with some walnuts from the trees for a good source of protein and healthy fats.    

Most important, budgeting and money management should be taught in school along with home economics for everyone.  Learning to cook from scratch is healthier and cheaper than buying some processed frozen pizza or going out to eat.  There are some things you simply can't get from a store like my Thomas Jefferson sweet potato biscuits or my Spicy Grilled Catfish Stew.

We need to move forward in advancing our job skills and backwards into working the land and harassing earth's resources.    

[Roger Bacon]

There are some things you simply can't get from a store like my Thomas Jefferson sweet potato biscuits or my Spicy Grilled Catfish Stew.

Okay True Adonis... 










 

[supernick]

Well, we definitely have some ding-dong lovers who are notorious pole smokers.  If "supernick" was in charge, he'd have them on treadmills to create electricity for the getbig server.

Ha ,, u bet ur ass i would!!!

[RagingBull]

What does getting a tattoo or a piercing have to do with "Medicaid"?

I think he's trying to say that if you have money to get tattoos and piercings you shouldn't be on Medicaid.  Also, the risk associated with unsanitary piercings and tattoos (hepatitis etc) will coast taxpayers. 

[tu_holmes]

I think he's trying to say that if you have money to get tattoos and piercings you shouldn't be on Medicaid.  Also, the risk associated with unsanitary piercings and tattoos (hepatitis etc) will coast taxpayers. 

Well, tattoo shops and the like, in my experience are very sanitary, however, do you mean that if some woman has her ears pierced when she's a kid, or if the person has a tattoo when they were making good money, but now make none, that their tattoos negate them being able to get Medicaid?

Seems like a lot of "government intervention" that will cost more to police than it would to just say, medicaid will not pay for X, Y, or Z.

[supernick]

they saying that u should not be spending money on anything unnessary untill u get a job

[The RedMeatKid]

I've always thought work camps would be perfect for the scum who collect welfare.

[bradistani]

A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge.....
 

rather draconian don't you think ?  sounds like some shit that communist china would dream up.. only those girls would eat your babies and pets 

[Howard]

A Texan’s Answer to Welfare

Submitted by Trevor on June 11, 2011

Reportedly from the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, Texas, Nov 18, 2010.
 



Put me in charge
 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”

Love it!
Hmmm, I wonder how many getbiggers would lose out if this was put into law worldwide AND their mom's kicked them out of the basement.

[The Grim Lifter]

The majority of unemployed people are there because their job is obsolete and no longer needed due to technology along with increased dropout rates from high schools.  
    

Some people yes, but most are fucking lazy

[#1 Klaus fan]

If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?

[Howard]

If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?

I honestly don't think they should be punished.
BUT< I don't see why "we" give them food stamps and free health care ( medicaid in the USA).

For example, as a working man or woman you actually PAY into Medicare and UNemployemnt Ins.
That is why I think getting Medicare after 65 and UNemployment bennefits for a few weeks is EARNED by those who work.

Medicaid , foodstamps and welfare checks and simply given to those who don't have it or don't work.
They didn't have to earn it, so they we don't need to give it to them via our tax dallars.

[Agnostic007]

If the society can't provide job for everyone then in what position is it to punish those who don't have a job?

Why would you consider NOT giving away my money to them as punishment? Your thought process is weird

[tu_holmes]

Why would you consider NOT giving away my money to them as punishment? Your thought process is weird

Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?

[mcfinn70]

As a liberal, I have to say I agree with most of what you outlined.  I want people to have a safety-net not a free ride. The only issue I have is voting.  If we are going to deny people the right to vote based on receiving government assistance then we would need to deny the vote to military contractors, builders, veterans, anyone who receives benefits from the government.  

[#1 Klaus fan]

By punishment I meant all these suggestions of work camps and the sorts, like people should work 8 hours a day to earn their 3 dollars worth of food stamps, sorry but I deem that ridiculous.

Why should we offer jobless and poor people money from the tax money? I don't think person needs any better arguments than that it is a decent thing to do. Yes, tax payers suffer a little. What is the result if tax payers don't have to suffer? People without welfare suffer -> possible crimes -> everybody suffers -> jail time and other government involvement -> total costs rise to obscene numbers.

[Reeves]

Let 'em pick produce in the fields.  In all seriousness this will ultimately reduce the illegal immigrant population, result in these "captive" employees paying their way.

Additionally I think this should be societal de rigueur for all nonviolent prisoners.  They could pick produce while earning their keep.  Chain gangs  are what's needed here.  Keep the highways clean of trash.  Pick lettuce, tomatoes, etc. 

Prison time should not be free time. Just because you did a crime doesn't mean its TV and weight lifting time.  Earn your keep. And should Convenient Niggah  Benny-Boy (a Filipinoish play on words  )  whine about how there are more of his "people", his "brothas", in the Pinstripe Crib, well, suffice to say that means we need to arrest more caucasionals and other peeps of color to make it all better for him.

And feed the lot of 'em salt peter.  That should keep them calm and easily controlled. 

All violent prisoners should be put into tiny cells and left there.  They can handle it.  Just look at domestic pets such as birds.  They live in cages just fine and they're a shitload smarter than any criminal human you can name.

[w8m8]

Let 'em pick produce in the fields.  In all seriousness this will ultimately reduce the illegal immigrant population, result in these "captive" employees paying their way.

Additionally I think this should be societal de rigueur for all nonviolent prisoners.  They could pick produce while earning their keep.  Chain gangs  are what's needed here.  Keep the highways clean of trash.  Pick lettuce, tomatoes, etc. 

Prison time should not be free time. Just because you did a crime doesn't mean its TV and weight lifting time.  Earn your keep. And should Convenient Niggah  Benny-Boy (a Filipinoish play on words  )  whine about how there are more of his "people", his "brothas", in the Pinstripe Crib, well, suffice to say that means we need to arrest more caucasionals and other peeps of color to make it all better for him.

And feed the lot of 'em salt peter.  That should keep them calm and easily controlled. 

All violent prisoners should be put into tiny cells and left there.  They can handle it.  Just look at domestic pets such as birds.  They live in cages just fine and they're a shitload smarter than any criminal human you can name.

nice post .. now try and convince a majority to agree

[Agnostic007]

Dude... You're part of the tax system!

Your job is paid 100 percent by the tax payers!

Maybe if we got rid of  your job and made you get a job that produced a good, then maybe our GDP would be higher.

Who takes WHO'S money?

Oh that's right... you advocate no police...nuff said

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Some people yes, but most are fucking lazy

The amount of people actually mooching off welfare is pretty minimal actually.  The Welfare Reform Act of 1996 pretty much made it very hard to get.  Even those who get it only get it for a very limited amount of time.

However, you can only collect unemployment if you were fired or laid off from a job that you worked.  People do stay on it longer due to the fact that they are looking for a job that pays close to what they made to continue to pay their bills and they are simply not finding those jobs.  I was in the same situation where I was laid off of Alltel and tried to find another telecommunications job which just wasn't there.  I ultimately had to take a part time job unloading trucks for a year until I built my fitness business up to where I could  pay my bills solely from it.  


Fact is that if there's no-one's hiring, then no-one is hiring.  Jobs are being shipped overseas including mine which is now done by someone in India.  That's not my fault and neither is it for other folks that are in the same situation.  Its unfair to punish people because a corporation decides to ship your job overseas to make more money.  




BTW, just to end this stupid argument, the monthly benefit of welfare is only about 150 dollars a month if you qualify for it.  Implanting a Norplant birth control device  into one person would run about 5k-10k dollars not even including check-ups and supplying equipment, transportation and supervisory personnel for people to clean up roads and picking up garbage would cost even more.  

Sounds good when you read it....implementing it however is where you fuck up.  Its cheaper the way it is now.

[tbombz]

 
Put me in charge of food stamps. I’ll get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese, and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke, or get tattoos and piercings, then get a job.
 
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.
 
In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”
 
Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above are voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.
 
If we taxpayers are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.
 
And finally, while you are on Government subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will lose your voting privileges while you are receiving a Government welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job!”

i think all of that is great and i could support it except for  not giving the medicaid part and the part forcing people to work. everyone should get all necessary medical treatments regardless of tattoos and peircings, eating hbaits smoking habits what have you..  what we can do is prohibit all cosmetic treatments. that makes sense.  forcing people to work.. ok, if they dont have children to support. but you cant do that to a single parent with young children. not because the parent deserves their kids but because a kid needs its parent.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Fine - take out the chain gang - but mandatory PT at 5:30 am muster is a must.   
 

You really are a complete sack of shit aren't you, especially for someone who has never done any PT before 

[Yev33]

The opening post has a lot of simple minded ideas by a simple minded person who had never lived outside their own state and bases beliefs on experiences from their own bubble and what they see on TV.
Like a true sheep lower middle class republican, the individual does not see that the problems are caused by corporations and government policies that cater to them. The idiot does not  realize that he is much closer to the unemployed "leeches" than the government and corporate elites that lead him by the nose and motivate him to write articles that only support their agenda.

How about this instead. For every job a company outsources, they should pay the individual the unemployement benefits as well as pay for that person's education necessary to get re-trained in a new field which will bring him the same or slightly better income than the position he was laid off from.

[calfzilla]

At one time I would have agreed with this but now I see it as classist, violates civil rights, without compassion, and just plain dangerous. Oh how opinions change as we get older and better educated.

[tu_holmes]

Oh that's right... you advocate no police...nuff said

Ah... Ah...

Don't go lying (Typical cop).

I advocate police protecting and serving the public and not doing bullshit things like giving citations just to fill a localities coffers.

I advocate Police being held to a higher standard and actually "helping" the public.

I am anti-police because MOST police do not do anything but write tickets and cost the tax payers money.