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« Reply #150 on: September 07, 2011, 06:47:08 PM »
I this 95er thing yours....pretty good. Yet we're accused of racism because we don't like him. I like Cain, wish he was more well rounded because it would be fun to watch the MSM attack another black guy and showcase lib hypocrisy on the national level.

I like Cain.   Common sense all the way. 

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« Reply #151 on: September 07, 2011, 06:48:38 PM »
I do to...I think any short coming can be mitigated by a strong team around him.
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« Reply #152 on: September 07, 2011, 06:49:34 PM »
Cain always sounds well-spoken and he and Ron Paul are the most blunt in their responses. I like the guy. He doesn't dance around any questions.

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« Reply #153 on: September 07, 2011, 06:50:53 PM »
A debt of $14 trillion (and set to eclipse $20 trillion by the end of Obama's reign) is what changed. Out of control Dem spending approaching 25% of GDP is what happened.

"All major economists" is a completely unsubstantiated claim.



I should not have used the phrase "All"..but most economists say it was a mistake to downgrade..also I love how you conveniently ignore Bush's spending was was out of control with two unfunded wars, and the senior drug prescription program which was unfunded as well....

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/08/139080051/economists-share-thoughts-on-credit-downgrade?ft=1&f=1001

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« Reply #154 on: September 07, 2011, 06:51:17 PM »
its really weird that you would blame Obama about that when we took a minimal role in the war...why didn't you blame Britain or France, who both took the lead in the war???...your statement is truly odd....but it shows I was right about the insane comments you guys on here make with no kind of substantiation whatsover just based solely on the fact that you are anti-Obama

Also in wars, money and weapons go missing all the time..thats not unusual

Because I am not a british or French citizen.  

However I am an American citizen and I do not support needless American involvement in wars.  And do not support a president who promised he wouldn't involve us in a needless war when referring to BUSH's grand fuck up in Iraq.  And I do not support irresponsibly going to war and not being mindful of things like this.

But yeah, Andre that's insane talk.   ::)

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« Reply #155 on: September 07, 2011, 06:53:03 PM »
Yeah no big deal..sharia law along the Med..ah nothing to worry about, things will be fine. Your a fucking retard.

also..funny how you would blame Obama for the political situation in Libya when its really Gaddafi's fault for not democratizing and helping his people for 42 years.....

and I'm the retard???...you should try and find the nearest mirror

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« Reply #156 on: September 07, 2011, 06:54:11 PM »
I trust HH6 any day over you andre. 

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« Reply #157 on: September 07, 2011, 06:56:06 PM »
Ghaddafi is not even the point Here    ::)

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« Reply #158 on: September 07, 2011, 06:56:13 PM »
Andreisadouche has thrown his lot in with Al Qaeda and other Islamist murderers of Americans.


I guess you've thrown in your lot with a murdering terrorist dictator who killed many people to stay in power and committed acts of terror against Americans in the past plus tried to murder his own people when they asked him to leave....and of course you overstate again like usual..I am for self-determination by the Libyan people....if they fuck up and turn to Al Qaeda then again...thats their business..it would be a shame

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« Reply #159 on: September 07, 2011, 06:56:56 PM »
No, just a typical 95er who will do anything to prop p bam bam.


I would care about your statement if you had ANY KIND of credibility..but you don't

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« Reply #160 on: September 07, 2011, 07:01:35 PM »
Because I am not a british or French citizen.  

However I am an American citizen and I do not support needless American involvement in wars.  And do not support a president who promised he wouldn't involve us in a needless war when referring to BUSH's grand fuck up in Iraq.  And I do not support irresponsibly going to war and not being mindful of things like this.

But yeah, Andre that's insane talk.   ::)

the difference is that Obama said our involvement would be very brief which it was, and that we would not have soldiers on the ground which we did not, and it would not cost us a ton of money, which again it did not, plus Obama promised Gaddafi would be ousted which he was....

Obama came through on every single promise concerning the war....so how can you say it was reckless??..he accomplished EVERY SINGLE OBJECTIVE....

again...keep twisting your arguments to create the reality you want

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« Reply #161 on: September 07, 2011, 07:02:37 PM »
I trust HH6 any day over you andre. 

crazy people are always loyal to each other ;)

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« Reply #162 on: September 07, 2011, 07:03:23 PM »
Ghaddafi is not even the point Here    ::)

uh huh...and only Obama is???

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« Reply #163 on: September 07, 2011, 07:42:35 PM »
the difference is that Obama said our involvement would be very brief which it was, and that we would not have soldiers on the ground which we did not, and it would not cost us a ton of money, which again it did not, plus Obama promised Gaddafi would be ousted which he was....

Obama came through on every single promise concerning the war....so how can you say it was reckless??..he accomplished EVERY SINGLE OBJECTIVE....

again...keep twisting your arguments to create the reality you want

So 20,000 missing SAM's was all part of the objective?  And "not a ton of money" is what exactly?

It was a no-brainer that allowing a unstable element in Libya would be a breeding ground for terrorists and now they have little things to shoot at planes with. 

"Objective Accomplished"


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« Reply #164 on: September 07, 2011, 09:48:22 PM »
So 20,000 missing SAM's was all part of the objective?  And "not a ton of money" is what exactly?

It was a no-brainer that allowing a unstable element in Libya would be a breeding ground for terrorists and now they have little things to shoot at planes with. 

"Objective Accomplished"



thanks for saying it.....Objective has been accomplished...and what makes you think that those SAM's weren't missing a long time ago???.....and why is Obama responsible for weapons SOLD TO LIBYA BY THE RUSSIANS???....and you sure have a lot of faith in the accuracy of the Libyan inventory takers......

WWWWOOOOWWWWWW.........c ome back to reality man!

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« Reply #165 on: September 07, 2011, 10:02:27 PM »
We don't even know who the rebels are for gods sake.  Some are al quadea , some are rag tag idealists, etc. 

They are also being armed by Iran. Way to go Obama Administration, have really done your work in vetting the next government in Libya. This Administration doesn't have a clue at what they are doing. Case in Point Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood is the majority force in Egypt. Backing a group that has not been vetted is elementary.

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« Reply #166 on: September 07, 2011, 10:08:29 PM »
thanks for saying it.....Objective has been accomplished...and what makes you think that those SAM's weren't missing a long time ago???.....and why is Obama responsible for weapons SOLD TO LIBYA BY THE RUSSIANS???....and you sure have a lot of faith in the accuracy of the Libyan inventory takers......

WWWWOOOOWWWWWW.........c ome back to reality man!

Oh wow, how do you know that those SAM's weren't planted by aliens?   ::)  Which is about as stupid as what you just said.  

Look if you are going to be a fucking moron with stupid arguments like that save it for the kiddy forum.  Geez

Osama is responsible for getting involved in a war we shouldn't have been involved in and in turn has made this country less safe.  He's a hypocrite.  I would have been far more secure with Ghadafi holding those weapons instead of possibly and or likely terrorist elements.   Because doing anything with them means the end of his power.  

And show me where i said OB is responsible of those SAM's sold by the Russians.  

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« Reply #167 on: September 07, 2011, 10:11:25 PM »
They are also being armed by Iran. Way to go Obama Administration, have really done your work in vetting the next government in Libya. This Administration doesn't have a clue at what they are doing. Case in Point Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood is the majority force in Egypt. Backing a group that has not been vetted is elementary.

Neither did the last administration. 

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« Reply #168 on: September 07, 2011, 10:36:00 PM »
I should not have used the phrase "All"..but most economists say it was a mistake to downgrade..also I love how you conveniently ignore Bush's spending was was out of control with two unfunded wars, and the senior drug prescription program which was unfunded as well....

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/08/139080051/economists-share-thoughts-on-credit-downgrade?ft=1&f=1001

again/....keep trying

The "unfunded prescription drug program"  is better known as Medicare part D. The individual monthly premium one pays for this in addition to the premium they pay for Medicare starts at about $40 a month and goes up, depending on the plan and the provider you choose. Medicare premiums are currently right at $100. per month. So together Medicare with part prescription part D runs $140 or more per month per person.

My wife and I purchase an Enhanced Medicare Advantage plan at a current cost of $127. a month each. So in other words we pay about $227. each for Medicare with an added drug plan. Our co-pays for prescriptions are currently $5. for each generic drug and more for non-generic drugs or drugs not on the Medicare formulary.

I am not sure how, given the combined cost of premiums and co-pays, Medicare part D can be considered unfunded. What is there to fund? We are paying for the coverage we get. It would be interesting to know what, if anything, government pays for this coverage. Like any insurance plan, some folks are heavy users and thus expensive to insure. Others, like me, pay out much more in premiums then we can ever recoup in medical expense savings. Essentially, I pay for some other high users medical costs to the insurer....in my case Medicare and Regence Blue Cross. This model is the same as it is with private medical insurance.

Another thing that is interesting about Medicare part D is that should one decide to opt out and later change their mind and sign up for it, they must pay a penalty for not having signed up when they were first eligible, thus insuring that low users like me are going to be in the plan, paying some of the cost of the high users.

This may be more than you wanted to know. It is easier just to believe the rhetoric spewed out by various political extremist then it is to actually research and know the facts.

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« Reply #169 on: September 08, 2011, 06:20:13 AM »
Nice try, terrorist. Not supporting this war =/= supporting Gadhafi. You, on the other hand, are applauding Obama's financing, training and delivery of weapons to Al Qaeda and other murderers of your fellow American citizens. Talk about a real piece of shit.

How do you know Al-CIA-da are present among the rebels?? Did you see in CNN/SKY news..............

When you base your arguments on spurious intel.
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« Reply #170 on: September 08, 2011, 09:51:29 AM »
Oh wow, how do you know that those SAM's weren't planted by aliens?   ::)  Which is about as stupid as what you just said.  

Look if you are going to be a fucking moron with stupid arguments like that save it for the kiddy forum.  Geez

Osama is responsible for getting involved in a war we shouldn't have been involved in and in turn has made this country less safe.  He's a hypocrite.  I would have been far more secure with Ghadafi holding those weapons instead of possibly and or likely terrorist elements.   Because doing anything with them means the end of his power.  

And show me where i said OB is responsible of those SAM's sold by the Russians.  

wow....and you are supposed to be a moderator???....you have basically outed yourself and shown how biased you truly are.....calling me a "fucking moron" because I have an opinion?....wow...I simply stated my case....which is plausible.,,...in war time, weapons and money go missing all the time...it is easy to lose track of equipment during the chaos of war...so how is that Obama's fault???..I guess he was over there on the ground guarding the equipment???.....I was in the military (although I never served during wartime), so I have seen equipment get "lost"....

 look at Afghanistan....and look at Iraq...its been reported that countless millions of gov't money has gone unaccounted for....theft and misplacement happens all the time during wartime..thats my point.....I simply chastised you for twisting something that is normal for wartime into being Obama's fault...

Glad I outed you by making you meltdown...sorry

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« Reply #171 on: September 08, 2011, 09:58:00 AM »
Laughable.

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« Reply #172 on: September 08, 2011, 09:58:39 AM »
The "unfunded prescription drug program"  is better known as Medicare part D. The individual monthly premium one pays for this in addition to the premium they pay for Medicare starts at about $40 a month and goes up, depending on the plan and the provider you choose. Medicare premiums are currently right at $100. per month. So together Medicare with part prescription part D runs $140 or more per month per person.

My wife and I purchase an Enhanced Medicare Advantage plan at a current cost of $127. a month each. So in other words we pay about $227. each for Medicare with an added drug plan. Our co-pays for prescriptions are currently $5. for each generic drug and more for non-generic drugs or drugs not on the Medicare formulary.

I am not sure how, given the combined cost of premiums and co-pays, Medicare part D can be considered unfunded. What is there to fund? We are paying for the coverage we get. It would be interesting to know what, if anything, government pays for this coverage. Like any insurance plan, some folks are heavy users and thus expensive to insure. Others, like me, pay out much more in premiums then we can ever recoup in medical expense savings. Essentially, I pay for some other high users medical costs to the insurer....in my case Medicare and Regence Blue Cross. This model is the same as it is with private medical insurance.

Another thing that is interesting about Medicare part D is that should one decide to opt out and later change their mind and sign up for it, they must pay a penalty for not having signed up when they were first eligible, thus insuring that low users like me are going to be in the plan, paying some of the cost of the high users.

This may be more than you wanted to know. It is easier just to believe the rhetoric spewed out by various political extremist then it is to actually research and know the facts.

Thanks for your awesome post..very nice explanation and I learned  a lot from it...but the truth is that what you and others pay for your premiums in no way comes close to what the medicines actually cost....for example I use medicine for a condition that I have as well....I pay my insurance premium plus the co-pay for my meds which is about $25.00 or so..but the actual cost of the medication I use is $365.00....so who pays for the other $345.00???..the insurance company does since I have private insurance...but in terms of medicaid who pays for the extra cost??..the government.....

this is no knock on you at all...you deserve what you are getting...but the difference in the money you pay and what the drug actually costs gets made up from somewhere (the government)

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« Reply #173 on: September 08, 2011, 10:00:36 AM »
Laughable.

thats what I usually think when I read your posts/threads

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« Reply #174 on: September 08, 2011, 10:20:42 AM »
Thanks for your awesome post..very nice explanation and I learned  a lot from it...but the truth is that what you and others pay for your premiums in no way comes close to what the medicines actually cost....for example I use medicine for a condition that I have as well....I pay my insurance premium plus the co-pay for my meds which is about $25.00 or so..but the actual cost of the medication I use is $365.00....so who pays for the other $345.00???..the insurance company does since I have private insurance...but in terms of medicaid who pays for the extra cost??..the government.....

this is no knock on you at all...you deserve what you are getting...but the difference in the money you pay and what the drug actually costs gets made up from somewhere (the government)

In some cases. like yours, this is true. But, this is not always the case. With the Regence Enhanced Medicare supplemental insurance my wife and I have, we get monthly updates on what the insurance has paid for prescriptions. In my case the total cost for prescriptions for a year amounts to less than $500. My premiums amount to over $2,700. I see my doctor maybe three times a year. I co-pay $25. for a specialist and $10. for my GP. Clearly, Regence is making a profit off me. My wife, on the overhand suffers from diabetes and has a raft of other complications as a result. She takes about nine different prescriptions everyday. Even so, she has never even come close to the Medicare prescription "gap". Of course, Regence contracts with pharmacies for drug costs. It is amazing how little generic drugs actually cost them. I am always surprised when I see the printout.