oh stop it..you're being silly.....how do you know when the SAM's were lost??...I don't know either, I'm just saying they could have been missing a long time ago or yesterday...its anyone's guess.
No Andre, 20,000 SAM's don't go missing as a matter of chance or a "natural occurrence in a military" as you used to support your asinine retort. (example #1)
.why blame Obama for that?....also in Libya, the armories were looted by insurgents, citizens, and rebels so who knows what was taken by whom...this wasn't the case in the other wars...
Exactly, as i explained earlier, in other wars we were involved in we were more responsible. And the man responsible for us being responsible is OB. And what he has done is help a unstable element, with no clear leadership or accountability take over a country in the middle east that has 20,000 SAMS and now those SAMs might be missing. (example #2)
I didn't say I was right..I said my argument was plausible.....why you insist on blaming Obama for this shows your complete bias and lack of common sense on this issue
No your argument is not plausible save to the extent that it compares to the possibility of aliens planting the SAMs. Any military, especially one in Libya with terrorist elements near by, would not be without accountability (to Ghadafi) of its weapons such as SAMs especially considering the times we live in and the fear of Ghadafi losing power because he lost said SAMs. (example #3) Nothing personal Andre, its just a stupid thing to say and you did it solely to argue your point. I would have respected you more if you said, "Yeah that's not good but i believe getting Ghadafi out outweighs this mistake", but no, you had to use dumb logic and claim it as plausible. Or the whole: "I was in the military and saw things get lost all the time" lol, like 20,000 SAM's go missing in the US army. lol.
as for you "smacking me around" ..please...I can more than go toe to toe with you any time...
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Refer to the above examples. You are tedious at best. Nothing brought home the point more than "They could have been missing a long time before that." Seriously dude, that's about the weakest stupidest argument i think i have ever read on GB.
as a matter of fact your complete lack of understanding on this issue has diminished you.....I thought you were smarter than the argument you presented...and I still don't see the "recklessness " that you refer to in terms of us being involved in the conflict....it turned out pretty well considering the aftermath of the Iraq war turned into a long insurgency in which we took many casualties
Your lack of understanding is beyond your ability to understand. Just as Bush recklessly put our troops in harms way, so has OB and has potentially given terrorists SAM's.
LIBYA IRAQ
short war lasting months 5-6 years of conflict
no U.S. casualties whatsoever over 4000 soldiers dead
relatively low financial cost trillions spent
objective achieved (Ghadaffi out) objective still in doubt due to political infighting/continued terrorism
most of combat burden by almost all combat by U.S. and British troops
Britain, France and Italy
Mass slaughter of civilians prevented very high civilian casualties due to shite/sunni tribal violence
as for you saying Obama got us into a "mess" ,which of the above looks like a mess to you?
One mess doesn't negate or invalidate another mess. Simple reality. Unless of course you are you i guess.
stop trying to parrot the other idiots on this board..you're supposed to be much too smart for that
I am not parroting anyone. I attack both sides. You know that. If it smells like a duck, acts like a duck, talks like duck, i am going to call it a duck.
OB should have never involved us in this conflict period. The millions and millions wasted could have been put to better use. Now we have possibly 20,000 SAMS missing. Frankly 1 SAM missing, bought into the USA can cause serious problems shutting down air travel again.
