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Regarding narcotics and bodybuilders? Do all pros do them?
« on: August 24, 2011, 06:03:24 PM »
Y0U MENTI0NED THAT PHIL HEATH IS 0N THEM AND D0RIAN WAS 0N THEM. S0 D0ES THAT MEAN ALL T0P PR0S D0 THEM T0 C0MBAT LETHARGY FR0M THE HIGH D0SES?

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 06:14:33 PM »
Y0U MENTI0NED THAT PHIL HEATH IS 0N THEM AND D0RIAN WAS 0N THEM. S0 D0ES THAT MEAN ALL T0P PR0S D0 THEM T0 C0MBAT LETHARGY FR0M THE HIGH D0SES?

Probably painkillers .....they are the most abused substance on earth

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 06:17:17 PM »
you try injecting 16grams of drugs and not wanting to take a little sunshine.i mean really.but they the pros should be carefull as they do drug test you know.

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 06:18:59 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 06:23:11 PM »
I know a lot of guys that use gear, none are pro level but all use rec drugs. They seem to go hand in hand these days

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 06:27:53 PM »
Probably painkillers .....they are the most abused substance on earth

WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 07:35:29 PM »
WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.


I would assume it has something to do with the numerous injections they do per day ? Just my thoughts.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2011, 07:38:42 PM »
Gh15 said they use it cause they get lazy with so many hormones in the system. Makes sense, even only some test makes some guys real tired.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 07:39:06 PM »

I would assume it has something to do with the numerous injections they do per day ? Just my thoughts.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 07:42:38 PM »
WHAT W0ULD BE THE REAS0N F0R THEM? THEY D0N'T EVEN LIFT HEAVY.

years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.

tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.

plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.

edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 07:45:32 PM »
Btw, Cocaine is a pretty popular drug as well. Fights the lethargy. Gh15 has mentioned it before, however, he has also said ,NUMEROUS times, that narcotics are NOT an area that he likes to go into. It's just something he doesn't like to talk about it. I can respect that.


Fact of the matter is this ... you can't imagine ( nor can I, presently ) how much shit these guys are on day to day, week to week, etc. To have so much shit running through your body ... well, it almost requires the need for some " outside help ". I don't even know how a guy like Jay Cutler can even function day to day. Have met him quite a few times and I got to say ... I've NEVER looked into another person's eyes and seen NOTHING there. Just ... blank. It was like looking into the eyes of a doll or something. I kid you not. Look at some of pics. You'll see what I mean. I kinda feel sorry for these guys. Just a little, anyways. :/

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 07:54:08 PM »
Gh15 said they use it cause they get lazy with so many hormones in the system. Makes sense, even only some test makes some guys real tired.

! very good

i dont liek talking about this subject,, but it is more comon than yuo think,, i always bring marcus hailey as example ,, he is nothing right? not even top pro ,, no one even believed he would turn pro in the end of the 90s ,, he had no upper pec flat as puncakes,, stil he turned profesional and actualy got some decent placing and posing prices lol ,,
in any case,, the partys marcus hailey did of cocaine ....for the legands my friends,, for the legands,,

let me tell you something with out conection to lifting persay just in regard to life,, try to follow wht im saying


when you have someone willing to get his hands into cocaine,, crystal meth ,, pain killers,, etc...thsoe fellas dont even see hormones as drugs,, hormones are not drugs,, they use so much hormones that your face will get pale if you knew how much they swim in hormones,, for many many years,,

and vise versa!

when you have someone willing to get to the next level no matter what...and swim in hormones,, the distance from pain killers and narcotics is quite short,, when you get high doses of hormones and specific hormones in particular...and when you do it for so long none stop ...you become one lazy son of a bitch ,, you are very letargic ,, you are very slow,, you are a walking needle ...now you see philsulina walking to all of those guest posing,, to all around americnaa and places around the world,, keepign all muscle on ,, keeping energized and happy dandy ,, all i can say is this

LOOK INTO THE EYES ,, everything is in the eyes,,  and its not philsulina in particular it is many many from all modern day bodybuild

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 10:36:33 PM »
I know a lot of guys that use gear, none are pro level but all use rec drugs. They seem to go hand in hand these days

i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2011, 11:39:45 PM »
i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 11:45:18 PM »
! very good

i dont liek talking about this subject,, but it is more comon than yuo think,, i always bring marcus hailey as example ,, he is nothing right? not even top pro ,, no one even believed he would turn pro in the end of the 90s ,, he had no upper pec flat as puncakes,, stil he turned profesional and actualy got some decent placing and posing prices lol ,,
in any case,, the partys marcus hailey did of cocaine ....for the legands my friends,, for the legands,,

let me tell you something with out conection to lifting persay just in regard to life,, try to follow wht im saying


when you have someone willing to get his hands into cocaine,, crystal meth ,, pain killers,, etc...thsoe fellas dont even see hormones as drugs,, hormones are not drugs,, they use so much hormones that your face will get pale if you knew how much they swim in hormones,, for many many years,,

and vise versa!

when you have someone willing to get to the next level no matter what...and swim in hormones,, the distance from pain killers and narcotics is quite short,, when you get high doses of hormones and specific hormones in particular...and when you do it for so long none stop ...you become one lazy son of a bitch ,, you are very letargic ,, you are very slow,, you are a walking needle ...now you see philsulina walking to all of those guest posing,, to all around americnaa and places around the world,, keepign all muscle on ,, keeping energized and happy dandy ,, all i can say is this

LOOK INTO THE EYES ,, everything is in the eyes,,  and its not philsulina in particular it is many many from all modern day bodybuild

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I'VE SEEN VIDS 0F HIM WHERE HE TALKS AND M0VES HIS HEAD T0 THE SIDE AND STARTS SNIFFING BRIEFLY. IS THIS FR0M C0CAIN USE?

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 11:46:38 PM »
This is not something new, seems like narcotics and bbing in general go hand in hand these days, damn i remember old school bbers telling me platz use to rack lines of cocaine before training. Makes sense he was an animal.

Good thing gh15 doesnt go into to much detail on the whole narc ordeal, and tends to discourage "pupils" from going that route, however it is an evident problem when you have bbers, gym rats etc who are open and honest about their narcotics use however see it as taboo to mention their hormone usage.

GH15 mentions abuse of insulin destroyed bodybuilding, was also narcotics that did aswell. Most of the steroid dealers mixed drugs with steroids and brought the heat down hard on bbing in general. The days of quality dosed quality product gear is long and far of what it use to be. People just underdosing shit, selling test as deca etc. Very very few dealers are legit, usually if you dont find one that mixes gear with drugs you are good to go.

Its the narc dealers who sell fake xtc pills, cut cocaine, speed etc...then think they can do the same with gear that has fucked it for potential wannabe bbers.

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 12:01:56 AM »
i know alot of bodybuilders also. some on the national level and i don't know of one that uses rec drugs.

lol ,, americanos you mean? lol they neevr even admit to usage of homrones ,, it is alwys i got to 222.5lb 10% 5'6 by the poower of food and the once in a blue moon pro hormone pill ,, AMERICANOS??? FUCKIN AMERICANOS? you ask them to tell you this balonie? they dotn say shit about shit,, they are twisters

i tell you when you know it...i will

YOU KNOW YOUR BUD BUDS WERE ON NARCOTICS...WHEN YOUR BUD BUD AND NOTICE I SAY BUD BUD NOT FRIEND...WHEN HE COME TO GYM AND SUDDENLY IS 225...INSTED OF 255...SUDDENLY HE LOOK SMOOTHER....STILL ABUSING HIS MAMA AND PAPA BUT LOOK SMALLER BY LOTS ...THE ONLY THING WHO REMAIN IS THE GUT....AND THE GUT IS GROWING....THEN YOU START CONNECTING THE DOTS,, THEN YOU SEE ON HIS FACE BOOK THAT HE IS IN THE ER....AND NO ONE KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH HIM,, AND IF NOT IN FACE BOOK WORLD THEN THE RUMOR GO IN GYMNASIUM THAT THE FELLA HAS KIDNY FAILURE AND ON DIALASYS ,, THEN COME THE LIVER CANCER STORY FROM SOMEONE ....AND IS ON FROM THERE,,

THEN! YOU KNOW WHY ,,THEN YOU CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN HIS SUPERMAN TATTOOS,, AND HIS CRAZY SPORT MOTORCYCLE,, AND HIS 55 YEAR OLD MILK HE WAS TRAINNING (FUCKIG) AND THE CLUB YOU SEE HIM BOUCNY IN SELLING X.....AND THE BREAK OF THE DOOR STORY YOU HEARD EARLIER FEW YEARS BACK ,, AND THE STORIES ABOUT THE JAILS AND ABOUT THE FELLONIES,, THEN ALL THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED.....AND FINALY YOU KNOW THAT YOUR BUD BUD WAS ALL THIS TIME ON COMBO OF NARCOTICS AND HORMONES,,

BUT! THEN YOU ARE A 35 YEAR OLD GEEZER THAT WASTED ALL HIS 20S...WONDERING HOW COME HE DO NATIONALS AND YOU STUCK!

you want true,, you want hands on,,i give you hands on !

this is how it is with many many bodybuilder who get quite far in the amatuers and also profesional ,,

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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2011, 12:04:27 AM »

I'VE SEEN VIDS 0F HIM WHERE HE TALKS AND M0VES HIS HEAD T0 THE SIDE AND STARTS SNIFFING BRIEFLY. IS THIS FR0M C0CAIN USE?

have no idea what video you talk about ,, but! marcus haily used narcotics,,and many other too,, any bodybuilder that you know and dont know...that had kidny and liver problems,, USED NARCOTICS! USED BOOZ!,, and uysualy use combo of all 3...booz ,, narcotics,, and hormones

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 12:07:42 AM »
and that combo eventually leads to kidney failure, liver cancer and in worst cases.. death  :-\

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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 12:10:30 AM »
yep,, this is usualy the final stage,, you dont expect it ,, it comes on a blue shiney day like sept 11,, everyone know that fella is not exacly what he was ,, but no one knows to what severity ,, and in americana .....they drop dead since many of them have no health insurance and cant get shit ,, so many times you see fellas in the gym on hormones stil! with body that is falling apart from within ,, and really its not like they are on a harsh cycle and feel shitty ,, it is that their kidny is not functioning they are on dialasis ,, and they go in and out from er...its not the regular gym rat feleling shit from high dose,, it is really sick fella who just later on drop dead,, and then everyone say ,,ohhhhh he was so young,, he was so healthy ,, bla blee bloo

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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 12:15:08 AM »
Ask Chris Cormier and many of the west coast Venice bbers.....

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2011, 12:51:20 AM »
years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.

tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.

plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.

edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.

"edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad."...1000% Correct !!

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2011, 01:38:52 AM »
years of moving heavy weight before they got lazy. you cant paint them all with one brush. a lot of guys out there pushing weight their joints and tendons arent meant to handle. years of that will take an accumulative effect.

tears and nagging injuries abound. think of how many pros suffer mild to serious tears all the time. let alone the joint injuries. fuck even i'e had two minor tears.

plus when your running compounds like tren at really high doses insomnia is a bitch. take a perc to sleep. then maybe one before you train cause your elbows a little sore. then a perc doesnt cut the pain like it used to. maybe half an oxy will help...next thing you know your sitting at home snorting 80's cause you cant stop cause your body is in MORE pain now than ever cause coming off is a bitch .its a fucking slippery slope dude.

edit: it isnt the steroids that is fucking these guys organs up. its the painkillers. the tylenol, percocet, oxycotin etc. and the diuretics. years of abuse. sad.

I GET THE LAZY PART BUT I D0N'T SEE H0W BENCHING Y0UR 0WN B0DY WEIGHT F0R REPS CAN LEAD T0 INJURIES. M0ST PR0S I SEE HARDLY D0 HEAVY WEIGHT IN PR0P0RTI0N T0 THEIR WEIGHT.

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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2011, 02:17:31 AM »
lol ,, americanos you mean? lol they neevr even admit to usage of homrones ,, it is alwys i got to 222.5lb 10% 5'6 by the poower of food and the once in a blue moon pro hormone pill ,, AMERICANOS??? FUCKIN AMERICANOS? you ask them to tell you this balonie? they dotn say shit about shit,, they are twisters

i tell you when you know it...i will

YOU KNOW YOUR BUD BUDS WERE ON NARCOTICS...WHEN YOUR BUD BUD AND NOTICE I SAY BUD BUD NOT FRIEND...WHEN HE COME TO GYM AND SUDDENLY IS 225...INSTED OF 255...SUDDENLY HE LOOK SMOOTHER....STILL ABUSING HIS MAMA AND PAPA BUT LOOK SMALLER BY LOTS ...THE ONLY THING WHO REMAIN IS THE GUT....AND THE GUT IS GROWING....THEN YOU START CONNECTING THE DOTS,, THEN YOU SEE ON HIS FACE BOOK THAT HE IS IN THE ER....AND NO ONE KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH HIM,, AND IF NOT IN FACE BOOK WORLD THEN THE RUMOR GO IN GYMNASIUM THAT THE FELLA HAS KIDNY FAILURE AND ON DIALASYS ,, THEN COME THE LIVER CANCER STORY FROM SOMEONE ....AND IS ON FROM THERE,,

THEN! YOU KNOW WHY ,,THEN YOU CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN HIS SUPERMAN TATTOOS,, AND HIS CRAZY SPORT MOTORCYCLE,, AND HIS 55 YEAR OLD MILK HE WAS TRAINNING (FUCKIG) AND THE CLUB YOU SEE HIM BOUCNY IN SELLING X.....AND THE BREAK OF THE DOOR STORY YOU HEARD EARLIER FEW YEARS BACK ,, AND THE STORIES ABOUT THE JAILS AND ABOUT THE FELLONIES,, THEN ALL THE DOTS ARE CONNECTED.....AND FINALY YOU KNOW THAT YOUR BUD BUD WAS ALL THIS TIME ON COMBO OF NARCOTICS AND HORMONES,,

BUT! THEN YOU ARE A 35 YEAR OLD GEEZER THAT WASTED ALL HIS 20S...WONDERING HOW COME HE DO NATIONALS AND YOU STUCK!

you want true,, you want hands on,,i give you hands on !

this is how it is with many many bodybuilder who get quite far in the amatuers and also profesional ,,

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I CAN'T UNDERSTAND MOST OF YOUR STUPID RANT BUT I AM NOT LYING. ALOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE VERY OPEN ABOUT THERE DRUG USE. NONE OF THEM USED NARCOTICS. I SERIOUSLY TRIED TO THINK..I DID THINK OF ONE THAT SMOKED WEED THOUGH.  I ALSO KNEW A WRESTLER THAT DID USE COKE. ABOUT THE 35YR OLD GEZZER COMMENT.. I AM 34 AND I BET THAT YOU ARE ALOT OLDER THAN ME..
ALSO I DID NOT GO TO THE NATIONALS BECAUSE I AM RAISING A FAMILY AND I HAVE A REAL J0B. I THOUGHT ABOUT COMPETING AGAIN BUT I WANTED TO ESTABLISH A CAREER..PAY ON MY HOUSE. INVEST..START A SMALL BUSINESS..LIKE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE DO
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2011, 03:49:13 AM »
ffs assbruise, sort ur keyboard out already. better yet, just stop posting your nonsense...