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How to Party Like a Billionaire Financier With a 15% Tax Rate
By Lynn Parramore

August 22, 2011, Printed on August 24, 2011

A full moon rises over the Hamptons as the crocs come out to play.



While the world economy trembles and their fellow Americans face blown-up 401Ks, foreclosure threats, and fruitless job searches, financiers are embracing our current feed-the-rich/screw-the-rest mentality with renewed zest.

The NYT reports that last Saturday night, in the fabled NYC frolicking ground of Southampton, billionaire financier Leon D. Black threw himself a jaw-droppingly expensive 60th birthday bash. Two hundred well-heeled guests reclined on cushions Satyricon-style nibbling seared fois gras as Sir Elton John — earning a cool million bucks  — sang ‘Crocodile Rock.’ Joining this Reptilian Cotillion were Martha Stewart and fashion designer Vera Wang, who partied alongside some of Wall Street’s most notorious denizens, including junk-bond pioneer Michael Milken, Blackstone’s buyout king Stephen A. Schwarzman (who became a symbol of greed when he threw his own $3 million b-day bash back in bubblicious 2007), and Lloyd “God’s Work” Blankfein of Goldman Sachs.

Mayor Bloomberg was among the revelers, as was NY Senator Charles Schumer, who must have been feeling grateful for his host’s generous political contributions as he soaked in the expansive view of moonlit Schinnecock Bay.

A fellow like Leon Black needs all the influential friends he can get because, like other private equity tycoons, he enjoys a ridiculously low 15% tax rate on “carried interest” (the share of profits that hedge fund managers get as part of their stratospheric compensation). Chances are the persons who, say, cook for Mr. Black or landscape his yard pay something more like 35% in taxes for the money they earn doing actual work.

In fact, if we got rid of this George W. Bush giveaway, we’d have $21 billion over the next decade. That’s enough money to pay a million jobless Americans $20,000 for a year’s work doing productive things like rebuilding schools or repairing bridges.
That would be a lot more helpful to our country than proliferating casinos, which is Black’s line of work. His Apollo Global Management manages $72 billion in assets, including the largest gambling operation on Earth, Caesars Entertainment. He’s also into plastics.

Black, incidentally, is the 160th richest person in the United States. He is also the son of Eli M. Black, once head of the United Brands Company, whose career presents a tragic tale that we would do well to learn from a time of unchecked excess.

 

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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 03:38:06 PM »
Trickle-down economics. Not a difficult thing to understand.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 03:39:51 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 03:41:58 PM »
Trickle-down economics. Not a difficult thing to understand.
  ;D


in other news stupid ass republicans are now trying to increase taxes on the poorest americans, while still calling for lower tax rates on the wealthiest.   :'(

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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 03:42:42 PM »
  ;D


in other news stupid ass republicans are now trying to increase taxes on the poorest americans, while still calling for lower tax rates on the wealthiest.   :'(

i thought obama was all for everyone paying their fair share?
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 03:43:35 PM »
  ;D


in other news stupid ass republicans are now trying to increase taxes on the poorest americans, while still calling for lower tax rates on the wealthiest.   :'(
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2011, 03:45:54 PM »
Trickle-down economics. Not a difficult thing to understand.
Tongue: firmly-in-cheek.    ;D

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How to Party Like a Billionaire Financier With a 15% Tax Rate
By Lynn Parramore

August 22, 2011, Printed on August 24, 2011

A full moon rises over the Hamptons as the crocs come out to play.



While the world economy trembles and their fellow Americans face blown-up 401Ks, foreclosure threats, and fruitless job searches, financiers are embracing our current feed-the-rich/screw-the-rest mentality with renewed zest.

The NYT reports that last Saturday night, in the fabled NYC frolicking ground of Southampton, billionaire financier Leon D. Black threw himself a jaw-droppingly expensive 60th birthday bash. Two hundred well-heeled guests reclined on cushions Satyricon-style nibbling seared fois gras as Sir Elton John — earning a cool million bucks  — sang ‘Crocodile Rock.’ Joining this Reptilian Cotillion were Martha Stewart and fashion designer Vera Wang, who partied alongside some of Wall Street’s most notorious denizens, including junk-bond pioneer Michael Milken, Blackstone’s buyout king Stephen A. Schwarzman (who became a symbol of greed when he threw his own $3 million b-day bash back in bubblicious 2007), and Lloyd “God’s Work” Blankfein of Goldman Sachs.

Mayor Bloomberg was among the revelers, as was NY Senator Charles Schumer, who must have been feeling grateful for his host’s generous political contributions as he soaked in the expansive view of moonlit Schinnecock Bay.

A fellow like Leon Black needs all the influential friends he can get because, like other private equity tycoons, he enjoys a ridiculously low 15% tax rate on “carried interest” (the share of profits that hedge fund managers get as part of their stratospheric compensation). Chances are the persons who, say, cook for Mr. Black or landscape his yard pay something more like 35% in taxes for the money they earn doing actual work.

In fact, if we got rid of this George W. Bush giveaway, we’d have $21 billion over the next decade. That’s enough money to pay a million jobless Americans $20,000 for a year’s work doing productive things like rebuilding schools or repairing bridges.
That would be a lot more helpful to our country than proliferating casinos, which is Black’s line of work. His Apollo Global Management manages $72 billion in assets, including the largest gambling operation on Earth, Caesars Entertainment. He’s also into plastics.

Black, incidentally, is the 160th richest person in the United States. He is also the son of Eli M. Black, once head of the United Brands Company, whose career presents a tragic tale that we would do well to learn from a time of unchecked excess.

 


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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 03:50:29 PM »
they already pay payroll tax, sales tax, vehicle registration tax, ... taxes on everything they do. they pay their fair share.  

but lets put that aside and just look at the economics.


poor to middle class people spend their money in the economy. decrease their taxes, more spending.

the corporations and business's spend money in response to demand. decrease their taxes, doesnt change demand, doesnt increase spending. but it does make them richer.


you want spending, you want job creation? decreases taxes on those who will spend it annnd for those who can increase demand.

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2011, 03:51:37 PM »
they already pay payroll tax, sales tax, vehicle registration tax, ... taxes on everything they do. they pay their fair share.  

but lets put that aside and just look at the economics.


poor to middle class people spend their money in the economy. decrease their taxes, more spending.

the corporations and business's spend money in response to demand. decrease their taxes, doesnt change demand, doesnt increase spending. but it does make them richer.


you want spending, you want job creation? decreases taxes on those who will spend it annnd for those who can increase demand.

So you're an economist now?
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 03:53:14 PM »
So you're an economist now?
lol - Of course he is. A minimum wage-making economist.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2011, 03:55:13 PM »
lol - Of course he is. A minimum wage-making economist.

Candizzle is an expert on everything, just ask him AND he will be Mr. Olympia one day.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 03:56:17 PM »
Candizzle is an expert on everything, just ask him AND he will be Mr. Olympia one day.
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2011, 03:57:14 PM »
Candizzle is an expert on everything, just ask him AND he will be Mr. Olympia one day.
Well, he, alone, proved the existence of God, and scientifically, no less.       :o

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2011, 03:57:47 PM »
So you're an economist now?
basically  :-*


demand creates jobs

tax cuts can incentivize business but business will always produce at the level correspondent with demand.

business are greedy fucks and they do not let profits 'trickle down'.


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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2011, 04:31:06 PM »
they already pay payroll tax, sales tax, vehicle registration tax, ... taxes on everything they do. they pay their fair share.  

but lets put that aside and just look at the economics.


poor to middle class people spend their money in the economy. decrease their taxes, more spending.

the corporations and business's spend money in response to demand. decrease their taxes, doesnt change demand, doesnt increase spending. but it does make them richer.


you want spending, you want job creation? decreases taxes on those who will spend it annnd for those who can increase demand.

The problem with this is that as demand increases for goods, and the corporations are paying higher taxes, they have less resources to create jobs in which to fill the demand, which will result in higher prices, and we are right back at square one.  Purchasing power remains unchanged.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2011, 04:34:11 PM »
Trickle-down economics. Not a difficult thing to understand.

george w bush showed us it works great!  Please, trickle down economics doesn't exist, it is a made up fallacy that rich Americans promote to uneducated poor people that do not know any better, the rich are just lining their pockets and the poor get just not smart enough to see it. 

To top it all off these republicans call themselves Christians  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2011, 04:35:14 PM »
basically  :-*


demand creates jobs

tax cuts can incentivize business but business will always produce at the level correspondent with demand.

business are greedy fucks and they do not let profits 'trickle down'.



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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2011, 04:41:45 PM »
they already pay payroll tax, sales tax, vehicle registration tax, ... taxes on everything they do. they pay their fair share.  

but lets put that aside and just look at the economics.


poor to middle class people spend their money in the economy. decrease their taxes, more spending.

the corporations and business's spend money in response to demand. decrease their taxes, doesnt change demand, doesnt increase spending. but it does make them richer.


you want spending, you want job creation? decreases taxes on those who will spend it annnd for those who can increase demand.
LOL very simple minded approach here, businesses create demand as well...they dont just respond to it.

the govt is simply going to give that money back out isnt it? thats the point the left makes about taxation.

To help limit debt and spur the economy?

well if thats the case then lets see it happen with everyone. Not just the ppl that make a certain amount or higher.

Everybody needs to have skin in the game.

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2011, 04:43:16 PM »
BOOM right on my friend
of course they are greedy, they are a business!!!

they are in the business of making money...


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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2011, 04:44:04 PM »
LOL very simple minded approach here, businesses create demand as well...they dont just respond to it.

the govt is simply going to give that money back out isnt it? thats the point the left makes about taxation.

To help limit debt and spur the economy?

well if thats the case then lets see it happen with everyone. Not just the ppl that make a certain amount or higher.

Everybody needs to have skin in the game.


when we have so many poor in this country and a growing population of poor, a business cannot create demand like you say, no one can afford their product duh.  How many new companies and small businesses do you see popping up and staying alive now days?

People just don't have the money to spend on these products.

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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2011, 04:45:17 PM »
of course they are greedy, they are a business!!!

they are in the business of making money...



yes funnel the money to the top, reduce workers wages and benefits, that type of greed, and it isn't going anywhere until gov't steps in and slaps these fools silly.

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 04:46:33 PM »
reppingfor20 clearly has a remedial job that doesn't pay well, so hes hating on the people who make the $$
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