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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2011, 11:14:46 AM »
going raw a lot of bodybuilders are stronger than the top competitive powerlifters.guys are now getting 300
3 or more out of bench shirts and the same with squats.

That's true.

Though, like I say, when speaking of raw lifts like squats, poundage claims are meaningless unless you see the style of execution first. A few inches difference in depth can mean several hundred pounds. Vic could be telling the "truth" but doesn't mean it compares to a Karwoski squat.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2011, 11:41:18 AM »
There isn't a single pic or video of him going heavy, 1 vid of him struggling with a measly 275 for incline, was a lot of talk about his crazy proportions surely there would've been a lot of gossip about his lifts back in the day and there wasn't, so I call BS
Vic is a NON issue in pro bodybuilding. Why? He never competed as a pro.
Why he gets attention and hype is beyond me??????

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2011, 11:43:15 AM »
He never competed as a pro.
Why he gets attention and hype is beyond me??????
that's the trick


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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2011, 11:53:24 AM »
Strength

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2011, 12:09:40 PM »
;D
Bro thats that big competition plates that weigh very little for how big they are, the bar isn't even bending, not much weight on there at all.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2011, 12:11:09 PM »
Bro thats that big competition plates that weigh very little for how big they are, the bar isn't even bending, not much weight on there at all.
only 170kg total weight

olympic barbell (20kg) + 4 yellows (15kg each) and 4 blues (20kg each)



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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2011, 12:16:17 PM »
An old friend of mine use to work out at the Gold's in Venice back in the day. Didn't mention any poundages, per say, but said V.R was the STRONGEST bb'er he had ever seen. And said V.R had muscle on top of muscle on top of muscle, etc., etc. I believe not only my friend, but  believe that Vic lifted extremely heavy based on the type of physique he presented. It was dense and thick beyond belief. EVERYBODY tell me that's a physique of a guy who pussied around in the gym ???? LOL !! Thank you !
Bro don't even go there, Getbig will eat you alive for this dumb comment, have you ever seen Gunter in his prime, ENORMOUS and lifts very light weight, 100's of examples if you wish. Vic Richards is the biggest Shit talker abd fraud in bodybuilding history and that fibo video was talked about for years, exactly my poinht why did no one ever talk about his lifts, oh except for your friend ::)

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2011, 12:17:52 PM »
only 170kg total weight

olympic barbell (20kg) + 4 yellows (15kg each) and 4 blues (20kg each)



Thank you ;)

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2011, 01:00:58 PM »
hahahahaa @ 900 pound squat  ;D

Big Ronnie did 'bout 800. This mofo would shit his pants under 800 pounds, yet 900  ::)

Yeah, and Ronnie's was high and done in full equipment, too. His squat would NOT have earned him white lights in a powerlifting meet. Few truly understand what a nine-hundred-pound squat means. Hell, most who have "done" it, and more, haven't genuinely squatted the weight, but rather, utilized every trick, drug and gear available.

Vic was/is a strong guy, no question, but his numbers are suspect, definitely. It's the manner in which these weights are lifted that tells the tale, ultimately. 

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2011, 01:04:13 PM »
That's true.

Though, like I say, when speaking of raw lifts like squats, poundage claims are meaningless unless you see the style of execution first. A few inches difference in depth can mean several hundred pounds. Vic could be telling the "truth" but doesn't mean it compares to a Karwoski squat.

Finally, someone who knows the score. Nice to meet you, sir.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2011, 01:04:46 PM »
Why not? I think he can do. I mean, someone gotta do that, why not Victor?

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2011, 01:09:08 PM »
Vic is a lying retard. Sure, he was one of the first truly MONSTROUS BBs, but the crap he says is so see-through to those with a clue.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2011, 01:13:35 PM »
It's believable until the 900 bench, wonder how much he exaggerated the other numbers, who cares actually, if he was a too pussy to step on stage with that many drusg in him he was probably too pussy to push himself in the gym as well

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2011, 01:18:01 PM »
It's believable until the 900 bench, wonder how much he exaggerated the other numbers, who cares actually, if he was a too pussy to step on stage with that many drusg in him he was probably too pussy to push himself in the gym as well

Never said he could BENCH 900. Raw, no one on planet Earth is within 150 pounds of such a feat. 

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2011, 01:19:53 PM »
I mean 900 squat sorry

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2011, 03:18:47 PM »
I mean 900 squat sorry
lol,..
Anyway.. Bottomline is if Vic threw any where near those weights someone would have talked about it somewhere even the strongest local gym rats that are pushing 5 hundred, deadlifting 600 and and squating 600 are talked about within a 200km radius, but no one ever saw Vic do anything impressive in the gym, don't get me wrong, he is probably strong, but those numbers would have shattered records in those days

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2011, 04:09:28 PM »
So because Ronnie didn't do it.....no one can?
Great logic my friend.

This business of Coleman being the only guy on earth being that strong is getting out of hand.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2011, 04:14:56 PM »
big vic was as usual flex and muscle and fitness propaganda to hype someone against haney ,its like they wanted off his throne yr in and out,remember luiz frietaz him too another big guy ready to dethrone haney,they loved gaspari .

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2011, 04:16:20 PM »
Strength insanity. 18 year old kid.




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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2011, 04:37:38 PM »
There isn't a single pic or video of him going heavy, 1 vid of him struggling with a measly 275 for incline, was a lot of talk about his crazy proportions surely there would've been a lot of gossip about his lifts back in the day and there wasn't, so I call BS
You mean that vid of him as a youngster, you forgot to mention that...this was not the Vic of the mid 90s...and there is no date to these supposed interview that the OP put up...

Damn, you'd guess with college educated people and all the info out there, people would reference a date, time of interviews and vids, just to help their points out.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2011, 04:44:50 PM »
You mean that vid of him as a youngster, you forgot to mention that...this was not the Vic of the mid 90s...and there is no date to these supposed interview that the OP put up...

Damn, you'd guess with college educated people and all the info out there, people would reference a date, time of interviews and vids, just to help their points out.
Who gives a shit if that video is when he was 9 years old, the fact remains no evidence whatsoever of him lifting super poundages anywhere at any age

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2011, 04:53:44 PM »
Who gives a shit if that video is when he was 9 years old, the fact remains no evidence whatsoever of him lifting super poundages anywhere at any age
Im not saying he did those poundages...he also "claims" to walk around at 330 pounds, and that was from his website where he sold supps---and that was yrs ago. I remember that, and laughed at anyone believing that...maybe the Nigerian scam artist is strong in him at times.

But, to reference a vid of him as youngster struggling with 275, is of no indication that the 300+ pounder that we saw next to Dorian on the Fibo 94 vid is incapable of doing those lifts.
Just say you doubt it, and move along...

What we do know, is the mofo liked to lift, but didn't like to compete or diet, and he was a untapped talent who still "captures" many minds today...he is a person who is more talked about than many bbers that competed, like Labrada, Gaspari, etc.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2011, 05:09:16 PM »
Im not saying he did those poundages...he also "claims" to walk around at 330 pounds, and that was from his website where he sold supps---and that was yrs ago. I remember that, and laughed at anyone believing that...maybe the Nigerian scam artist is strong in him at times.

But, to reference a vid of him as youngster struggling with 275, is of no indication that the 300+ pounder that we saw next to Dorian on the Fibo 94 vid is incapable of doing those lifts. Just say you doubt it, and move along...

What we do know, is the mofo liked to lift, but didn't like to compete or diet, and he was a untapped talent who still "captures" many minds today...he is a person who is more talked about than many bbers that competed, like Labrada, Gaspari, etc.
I beg to differ cause he was only 40-50 lb bigger at his heaviest at most and we all know your lifts can't double with that sort of gain. I am one of the strongest in my gym I was always able to double my own weight on the bench from 180 to 250 that means with a 70 lb muscle gain I added 140 lb on my bench and thats taking all the juice under the sun, so let's give Vic an increase of 100 lb on the bench that would still only put him at 375 on the incline which is pathetic in comparison to the numbers he claimed.

Now as far as your last comment 100% agree 8).

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2011, 05:13:57 PM »
I beg to differ cause he was only 40-50 lb bigger at his heaviest at most and we all know your lifts can't double with that sort of gain. I am one of the strongest in my gym I was always able to double my own weight on the bench from 180 to 250 that means with a 70 lb muscle gain I added 140 lb on my bench and thats taking all the juice under the sun, so let's give Vic an increase of 100 lb on the bench that would still only put him at 375 on the incline which is pathetic in comparison to the numbers he claimed.

Now as far as your last comment 100% agree 8).
You make a valid point.

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Re: Is vic richards a pathological liar or a freak of nature?
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2011, 05:14:13 PM »