Let's BAN Pro Bodybuilding?

[DK II]

Ahh he will be fine.    I take 6,000mg a day for the past 4-5 years and I'm healthier than ever.  I use that big amount because it seems to help with allergies.  It actually works better than prescription anti-histamines.  No joke!

 

 

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Looks Healthy

[Van_Bilderass]

You dont ban pro bodybuilding, you ban the idiot judges who reward the extreme.

Every pro is "extreme". They could bring you in as Mr O and bb would be saved.

[The Wizard of Truth]

Total failure of a thread, fuck all pro bodybuilders die from it

[DK II]

Total failure of a thread, fuck all pro bodybuilders die from it

fixed.

it's really shocking that ALL professional bodybuilders seem to have to die some time, whereas the ancient marathon runners and cycling specialists of the greek times are still around, healthy and fit at 2000 years old. 

[jedibrat]

How many wannabe and pro fashion models die from eating disorders and diet pills? What are you going to do ban clothing?

Wait, I like that idea

[DK II]

How many wannabe and pro fashion models die from eating disorders and diet pills? What are you going to do ban clothing?

Wait, I like that idea

You're not living in the US i presume? 

[suckmymuscle]

Amy Winehouse just died...maybe we should ban music...

  What a stupid argument. You don't need to take psychoactive drugs to be a great singer, but you do need to take huge amounts of health-impairing drugs to be a pro bodybuilder.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[DK II]

  What a stupid argument. You don't need to take psychoactive drugs to be a great singer, but you do need to take huge amounts of drugs to be a pro bodybuilder.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Bullshit, if we only found the right hypertrophy theory, we all could build 22 inch arms naturally. 

[suckmymuscle]

Bullshit, if we only found the right hypertrophy theory, we all could build 22 inch arms naturally.

  I love how FLEX every month has tons of recycled articles on training and nutrition, but not a single sentence about anabolic drugs. Not one. If only I did the H.U.G.E program properly and took my time to cook 8 anabolic meals a day for 4,500 calories a day like FLEX recommends, I too could be 300 lbs at 5% bodyfat. You see, it's all my fault. For every meal I miss or every set I stop one rep short of failure, I am missing on over 40 lbs of lean muscle!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[WillGrant]

Agree 100% but the judging has to be toned down.

This - And who is in control of the judging criteria ? IFBB ---> the fault lays right at the feet of Weider - it is there org if they truely are not happy with something then there say is final - Its all about homosexual fantasy of out of this world muscular barbarians hence why the schmoe factor is strong - any honest pro will tell you this - the problem here is that to acheive this look that these guys whack off to you put yourself in major major problems in regards to your health..

[delta9mda]

How many more lives does it take in order to ban pro bodybuilding? First Momo, then Munzer, then Demayo (OD but still), and now Luke.. ban that stupid shit called "pro bodybuilding"  

go fuck yourself and get off of a bodybuilding board if you dont like it. how many foot ball players died in the last year? how many wrestlers? how many people walking across a street?

[suckmymuscle]

go fuck yourself and get off of a bodybuilding board if you dont like it. how many foot ball players died in the last year? how many wrestlers? how many people walking across a street?

  Going by your logic then, we should all just mainline heroin since just being alive carries an innate risk of dying violently at any time. Thanks, but no thanks. I will rather not abuse drugs and thus dramatically increase my odds statistically of living a long, healthy life.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[delta9mda]

sucky, we are all going to die. just because a few bbers have died over the years since momo doesnt mean ban the sport and its not the juice, its the diuretics and the drying out protocols that fuck things up.

there are not several dead bbers nor body after body strew about. show me. name them.

flex supposedly has a congenital kidney problem that may have been activated or sped up by diuretic use.

momo took in no fluids and was blending apples for his fluid intake plus taking larger than needed amounts of lasix. that will do it.

dennis newman had cancer, may have been sped up by aas use or not.

i can go on. it really comes down to abuse over use. there seems to be no problems with guys on hrt. low doses replacing what has been lost. again, that is not abuse.

you said heroin and people look at addicts and say what a shame. they did it to themselves.

same with bodybuilders. get over it. live how you want to. they are as they want to.

[suckmymuscle]

sucky, we are all going to die. just because a few bbers have died over the years since momo doesnt mean ban the sport and its not the juice, its the diuretics and the drying out protocols that fuck things up.

there are not several dead bbers nor body after body strew about. show me. name them.

flex supposedly has a congenital kidney problem that may have been activated or sped up by diuretic use.

momo took in no fluids and was blending apples for his fluid intake plus taking larger than needed amounts of lasix. that will do it.

dennis newman had cancer, may have been sped up by aas use or not.

i can go on. it really comes down to abuse over use. there seems to be no problems with guys on hrt. low doses replacing what has been lost. again, that is not abuse.

you said heroin and people look at addicts and say what a shame. they did it to themselves.

same with bodybuilders. get over it. live how you want to. they are as they want to.

  I actually agree with you that banning bodybuilding is absurd, since it is just something that people voluntarilly choose to participate in. And I also agree that steroids are not as dangerous as the media makes them out to be, but I do think that the more androgenic steroids that pro bodybuilders take, like trenbolone and oxymetholone, are pretty dangerous in the amounts that the pros take. I don't think you can take 2,000 mg of test and 600 mg of trenbolone a week for years on end without significantly dangerous health effects. Just my opinion. And we are talking about statistics here. Taking steroids significantly increases your likelihood of developing kidney and liver failure and artherosclerosis. Just facts. It doesen't mean that every bodybuilder who takes them will need a new kidney or suffer a myocardial infarction or ischemic stroke: it means that the odds increase. And yes, most deaths are related to diuretics, but Prince's, Wheeler's and Don Long's liver and kidney failures were all related to AAS, so they are not as safe as many hardcore bodybuilders think they are. Dennis Newman's leukemia was caused by massive amounts of GH.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[io856]

  I actually agree with you that banning bodybuilding is absurd, since it is just something that people voluntarilly choose to participate in. And I also agree that steroids are not as dangerous as the media makes them out to be, but I do think that the more androgenic steroids that pro bodybuilders take, like trenbolone and oxymetholone, are pretty dangerous in the amounts that the pros take. I don't think you can take 2,000 mg of test and 600 mg of trenbolone a week for years on end without significantly dangerous health effects. Just my opinion. And we are talking about statistics here. Taking steroids significantly increases your likelihood of developing kidney and liver failure and artherosclerosis. Just facts. It doesen't mean that every bodybuilder who takes them will need a new kidney or suffer a myocardial infarction or ischemic stroke: it means that the odds increase. And yes, most deaths are related to diuretics, but Prince's, Wheeler's and Don Long's liver and kidney failures were all related to AAS, so they are not as safe as many hardcore bodybuilders think they are. Dennis Newman's leukemia was caused by massive amounts of GH.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Its everything but the AAS on this forum  Despite even posting peer reviewed studies 

[delta9mda]

Prince was gulping down advil and that is known to cause kidney damage in high doses just as tylenol is known to fuck the liver in high doses. fact.

[Meso_z]

lol this is a case of a shortman that would look better without the muscles but just have a normal tanned body

If proudly staring at his stack of vials and amps makes him feel more confident...so be it. lol

[DK II]

 I love how FLEX every month has tons of recycled articles on training and nutrition, but not a single sentence about anabolic drugs. Not one. If only I did the H.U.G.E program properly and took my time to cook 8 anabolic meals a day for 4,500 calories a day like FLEX recommends, I too could be 300 lbs at 5% bodyfat. You see, it's all my fault. For every meal I miss or every set I stop one rep short of failure, I am missing on over 40 lbs of lean muscle!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 

[dyslexic]

Even Fred Hatfield with his different versions of "the Scientific Approach to Bodybuilding" used to blow out the same shit as FLEX. He would say that if you followed a certain workout and dietetic protocol you would one day have 300 lb. ripped bodybuilders, yet every chapter of his book started with a picture of a drug abusing Pro.

This shit has been going on for years and we have yet to see even a ripped 230lb. bodybuilder who is 100% natural.

This particular "sport" is the only one that really sends messages/lies to the children as far as what you can obtain if you just "follow your dreams"

it's all bullshit. One day, someone is going to have to come "clean" (no pun intended) ~ but then the bodybuilding mags will stop selling and the contracts for the Pros with all the bullshit supplements will fall by the way-side (which is where they belong anyway)


I don't give a fuck who you are: Pro Bodybuilding is a farse, facade and a fucking lie. Even the "Natural" bodybuilding magazines cannot promote themselves without advertisements including the drug abusers. If they used the actual "natties" that are winning the "natural" shows, they wouldn't be able to sell the supplements now, would they?


It is truly a pack of lies. Until the drugs that are needed are legalized and sold and discussed, Pro bodybuilding will remain a joke.


Try to dispute that.

[dyslexic]

If proudly staring at his stack of vials and amps makes him feel more confident...so be it. lol

Lee Labrada looks great at 50, but he is still a fucking liar. You watch his YT videos about diet this and workout that. He talks NOT ONCE of the drugs it takes to look that way. I don't care how much or for how long. They are illegal and he cannot talk about them without repercussion.

All he truly cares about is 1) hanging on to his youth and 2) selling his bullshit supplements.


yeah, it would be great to look like that at 50 years old, but at what cost? He tries to make you believe that if you build a gym at work, and you pack a clean lunch and you drink a Labrada Nutrition shake, you too can look like this.


Lies.


It's not like he is going to secretly put his son on the sauce. I'm sure his moral standards are a little higher than that. But what will he do when his son just doesnt get ripped, shredded and big like his dad and he can't figure out why? Will he sit down and say "Well son, the truth is...


Fuck no. Lies.


Keep perpetuating them.

[DK II]

Even Fred Hatfield with his different versions of "the Scientific Approach to Bodybuilding" used to blow out the same shit as FLEX. He would say that if you followed a certain workout and dietetic protocol you would one day have 300 lb. ripped bodybuilders, yet every chapter of his book started with a picture of a drug abusing Pro.

This shit has been going on for years and we have yet to see even a ripped 230lb. bodybuilder who is 100% natural.

This particular "sport" is the only one that really sends messages/lies to the children as far as what you can obtain if you just "follow your dreams"

it's all bullshit. One day, someone is going to have to come "clean" (no pun intended) ~ but then the bodybuilding mags will stop selling and the contracts for the Pros with all the bullshit supplements will fall by the way-side (which is where they belong anyway)


I don't give a fuck who you are: Pro Bodybuilding is a farse, facade and a fucking lie. Even the "Natural" bodybuilding magazines cannot promote themselves without advertisements including the drug abusers. If they used the actual "natties" that are winning the "natural" shows, they wouldn't be able to sell the supplements now, would they?


It is truly a pack of lies. Until the drugs that are needed are legalized and sold and discussed, Pro bodybuilding will remain a joke.


Try to dispute that.

Same goes for ALL sports, pick up a cycling magazine, you will find articles on how to train for the Tour de France, how to load carbs with pasta before races and all sorts of BS.

Same goes for running

[Meso_z]

"Youre next on the list for a kidney transplant, son!"

[deceiver]

Fuck off socialists. If they are willing to die for that sport then let them do that. If you wanna live long then eat your vitamins and salad and shut the fuck up. Everyone got right to set their own priorities in life so please "naturals" stop preaching about healthy lifestyle bla bla, shut the fuck up morons.

Drugs are not bad. They are tools. They work, they create greatness in bodybuilding. Some of them also kill you in the process. So fucking what? It's their choice. They're grown up adults.

Let's stop all that "philsulina", "shitsulina", "all drugs" nonsence. It's obvious that if bodybuilding were all drugs then guys like Luke Wood or Milos would be top3 Olympia. Drugs are the only reason they got to that level but it's obvious to anyone with any common sense that difference between top10 guys is not fucking drugs.

So kids, either enjoy the show or change sport you're following.

[CalvinH]

Gimmick/troll for the win


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