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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #175 on: September 06, 2011, 02:15:31 PM »
Ok and with that point being made did Dorian do anything logical? Look at the way he trained, nobody else trained like that. How come he didnt think on the same lines then and say "well everyone else is training 3 days on one day off with 12-20 sets per bodypart, I should to or I wont hold on to these bodybuilding titles"
In my book if there ever was a bodybuilder that went by what he thought was the right way and only what he thought.....its Dorian Yates.
With that said....I allready told the people at pro muscle my thoughts on the whole thing as it pertains to information I got back in 95 or 96....I personally dont know Dorian Yates. My opinion is this and only this regarding this ongoing argumentative subject......where are the pro cards? Everyone and their brother keep saying that if you take enough drugs you can be a pro. There are so MANY people in this sport that want this stuff so darn badly their whole lives are encompassed by the mirror. They live breath and sleep pro bodybuilding and their ultimate goal stupidly is an IFBB pro card over a degree in college. Hundreds upon thousands of guys like that especially on these boards. The information supposedly is right there in front of everyone. Take enough sauce and listen to these guys on message boards who continually tell you that if you blast enough of this and that and that over there you too will find bodybuilding glory. Where are the pro cards? Because I keep seeing these genetically elite black guys come out of nowhere and get pro cards instead of these muscle message board members who have been on the boards the last 10 years who know the "secret" and want bodybuilding glory.

Dante is right to a point for sure.  I know this first hand.  Had three friends, one was Arab, one was black and the other an Italian guy.  All worked out for years and had that swimmers look, all decided to take steroids at the same time.  Just basic test, winny and deca.  All took the same dose and all worked out together the same time everyday.  The Italian guy blew the fuck up.  His muscles swole like no tomorrow. The black guy got bigger but reall just got deeper cuts and looked like a tank and the arab guy barely grew.  The fact is genetic response to drugs was the key.  I don't even think if the Arab guy took three times as much that he would have matched the other two guys in size.  The Italian guy responsed amazingly.  it is what it is.  The "elite" bodybuilders are genetic drug response freaks. 

As for Dante, TRT is steroids.  Calling it TRT doesn't pull this magical cloak over the fact that you are still injecting steroids and pharma quality steroids to boot.  Calling it TRT but taking two needles a week of Pfizer 200mg test cyp is better than 1 gram of any UG shit out there.

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #176 on: September 06, 2011, 02:16:33 PM »
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« Reply #177 on: September 06, 2011, 02:17:42 PM »
Dante is right to a point for sure.  I know this first hand.  Had three friends, one was Arab, one was black and the other an Italian guy.  All worked out for years and had that swimmers look, all decided to take steroids at the same time.  Just basic test, winny and deca.  All took the same dose and all worked out together the same time everyday.  The Italian guy blew the fuck up.  His muscles swole like no tomorrow. The black guy got bigger but reall just got deeper cuts and looked like a tank and the arab guy barely grew.  The fact is genetic response to drugs was the key.  I don't even think if the Arab guy took three times as much that he would have matched the other two guys in size.  The Italian guy responsed amazingly.  it is what it is.  The "elite" bodybuilders are genetic drug response freaks. 

As for Dante, TRT is steroids.  Calling it TRT doesn't pull this magical cloak over the fact that you are still injecting steroids and pharma quality steroids to boot.  Calling it TRT but taking two needles a week of Pfizer 200mg test cyp is better than 1 gram of any UG shit out there.

yes but your 3 friends were not over 300 lbs off-season like Dorian

tell me Labrada didn't use a lot of drugs at 180 lbs onstage and I won't argue for shit.

tell me the european who place 18th in a pro show and weights 250 onstage don'T use a lot of drugs and I'll call bullshit on that

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« Reply #178 on: September 06, 2011, 02:22:31 PM »
Yup Stupid, you have me furious. Your 260 IQ is too much for me. It's hilarious how angry I get, Stupid. I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll start typing in all caps.



  Lol, you were probably hitting your keyboard as you typed this. ;D Epic jealouly, spite and resentment. It's not my fault that I am better than you, dude. I was just born genetically superior to you. 8)

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #179 on: September 06, 2011, 02:26:26 PM »
yes but your 3 friends were not over 300 lbs off-season like Dorian

tell me Labrada didn't use a lot of drugs at 180 lbs onstage and I won't argue for shit.

tell me the european who place 18th in a pro show and weights 250 onstage don'T use a lot of drugs and I'll call bullshit on that

One thing for sure about Dorian is that his physique regressed during all his championship years.  It got worst, torn muscles and his shape suffered.  No one mentions the amount of shit he took for a decade to even get to the Olympia stage.  While there he probably did cruise on the doses mentioned but he never got that far without bigger doses.  He probably found what worked and allowed him to stay at the same weight, size and shape for the next 6-7 years.  Probably started upping and fucking with doses until his tendons started to give way.  Problem is unless you are getting all of your gear from a legit pharma that the same test you buy this year won't be the same next year or the same any other year.  heck even in the same batch of UG shit you'll have drastic variations of gear across the board.

You compete and you've been to shows and you've seen a wide range of physiques in the same weight class.  Just thinking the winner was the guy who took the most drugs is absurd.  Most of the times the shittiest physiques are the biggest drug users and without massive drugs wouldn't have EVER been considered a bodybuilder in the first place where the nicer shaped guys are the ones that just responded the best and didn't need to overdo it.

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #180 on: September 06, 2011, 02:29:26 PM »
I watched dorian's work out video thing, he worked out like every one else

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #181 on: September 06, 2011, 04:15:03 PM »
Doggcrap-I don't even think one person called B-boy a liar. He laid out a legit looking cycle and looked amazing. Not for one second would I doubt a word he said.


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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #182 on: September 06, 2011, 05:46:39 PM »
same as saying u have a 5'6 lightweight,middle,lightheavy,heavyweight ,national level there all on stuff ,lightweight might use same amount as heavy or more to get in shape or maintain for show.misconception is smaller weight classes are more shaped guys ,ripped,trying to keep overall look,you see blocky guys as well smaller classes and really shaped guys in heavys ,,,off season some lightweights go over 200 or so lbs to diet down to 154 .everyone is doing same thing to get as big as possible ,its the response to drugs is the key with food and then diet ,repeat over again and again.

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #183 on: September 06, 2011, 06:31:24 PM »
So why doesn't dorian still weigh 300 solid? What's so hard about taking 800 mgs a week of something? Regardless of what Dorian weighs at the moment he is a lot smaller than in his hey day. Maybe he doesn't eat anymore  ::) maybe he does 3 hours of cardio a day  ::) maybe he only does pilates  ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #184 on: September 06, 2011, 06:39:29 PM »
since we are all guessing at the exact cycles of the pros...


the average pro cycle is about 3cc's per day of aas

it just makes the most sense to me.. if i had the funds to run whatever i wanted as much as i wanted.. id do one full syringe per day.. i know this thought process is going to occur in these pros..

so about 3-4 grams.

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #185 on: September 06, 2011, 06:45:08 PM »
I know a lot of guys like to point out that if all it took to be a pro is lots of drugs then where are all the freaks. Has anyone noticed that in the last 8 to 10 years that most of the competitors in the nationals show have shit genetics? Where are the Levrones and the Dilletts and the Colemans and the Wheelers? Where are the teenage competitors? Most show don't even have a teenage division anymore. When I was competing there were 12 to 20 sometimes more in that class. Hell I still see some of those same guys competing in the masters. So maybe God is not creating anymore genetic freaks? or maybe the 16 year old boys who come into the gym are not interested in taking a $1000 a month worth of drugs to get a trophy? Look at some of the top teens today compared to 25 years ago! Back in the day 40 mgs of Dbol and 400 deca was common. Now you have guys running GH slin and 1500 mgs of AAS while competing as a teen! No wonder most of these kids are interested in MMA and such instead of BBing. Who can blame them? BBing will be dead in ten years and will be flooded with genetically inferior guys mega dosing for a trophy. Hell it's already happening, just look at these shows today. The top guys of today wouldn't have placed in the top ten back in the 80's and 90's!!!!!

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #186 on: September 06, 2011, 07:07:52 PM »
  This thread is Dorian approved. :D

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« Reply #187 on: September 06, 2011, 07:09:02 PM »
I know a lot of guys like to point out that if all it took to be a pro is lots of drugs then where are all the freaks. Has anyone noticed that in the last 8 to 10 years that most of the competitors in the nationals show have shit genetics? Where are the Levrones and the Dilletts and the Colemans and the Wheelers? Where are the teenage competitors? Most show don't even have a teenage division anymore. When I was competing there were 12 to 20 sometimes more in that class. Hell I still see some of those same guys competing in the masters. So maybe God is not creating anymore genetic freaks? or maybe the 16 year old boys who come into the gym are not interested in taking a $1000 a month worth of drugs to get a trophy? Look at some of the top teens today compared to 25 years ago! Back in the day 40 mgs of Dbol and 400 deca was common. Now you have guys running GH slin and 1500 mgs of AAS while competing as a teen! No wonder most of these kids are interested in MMA and such instead of BBing. Who can blame them? BBing will be dead in ten years and will be flooded with genetically inferior guys mega dosing for a trophy. Hell it's already happening, just look at these shows today. The top guys of today wouldn't have placed in the top ten back in the 80's and 90's!!!!!
true jim,remember ray,eddie robinson,santoriello,looked like pros almost at 18 to 20 ,late eighties all on basics i bet,,,,

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #188 on: September 06, 2011, 07:11:01 PM »
I know a lot of guys like to point out that if all it took to be a pro is lots of drugs then where are all the freaks. Has anyone noticed that in the last 8 to 10 years that most of the competitors in the nationals show have shit genetics? Where are the Levrones and the Dilletts and the Colemans and the Wheelers? Where are the teenage competitors? Most show don't even have a teenage division anymore. When I was competing there were 12 to 20 sometimes more in that class. Hell I still see some of those same guys competing in the masters. So maybe God is not creating anymore genetic freaks? or maybe the 16 year old boys who come into the gym are not interested in taking a $1000 a month worth of drugs to get a trophy? Look at some of the top teens today compared to 25 years ago! Back in the day 40 mgs of Dbol and 400 deca was common. Now you have guys running GH slin and 1500 mgs of AAS while competing as a teen! No wonder most of these kids are interested in MMA and such instead of BBing. Who can blame them? BBing will be dead in ten years and will be flooded with genetically inferior guys mega dosing for a trophy. Hell it's already happening, just look at these shows today. The top guys of today wouldn't have placed in the top ten back in the 80's and 90's!!!!!

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #189 on: September 06, 2011, 07:11:53 PM »
true jim,remember ray,eddie robinson,santoriello,looked like pros almost at 18 to 20 ,late eighties all on basics i bet,,,,

I used to train with one of these top guys back in the mid 80's and yes lots of drol and dbol plenty of EQ and decent amount of test but not near as much today. Oh and plenty of Finajet.  ;D

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« Reply #190 on: September 06, 2011, 07:32:57 PM »
So why doesn't dorian still weigh 300 solid? What's so hard about taking 800 mgs a week of something? Regardless of what Dorian weighs at the moment he is a lot smaller than in his hey day. Maybe he doesn't eat anymore  ::) maybe he does 3 hours of cardio a day  ::) maybe he only does pilates  ::)
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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #191 on: September 06, 2011, 08:25:42 PM »
Dorian does not weigh 300 pounds because he does not eat 600 grams of Protein like fat ass Dante` does.  ::)


He used to claim that he was training Lifetime Natural bodybuilders that were over 200 lbs and under 6 feet, ripped.  When questioned further, he would say it was because of their protein intake. HAHAHAAH

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #192 on: September 06, 2011, 09:08:57 PM »
Dorian does not weigh 300 pounds because he does not eat 600 grams of Protein like fat ass Dante` does.  ::)


He used to claim that he was training Lifetime Natural bodybuilders that were over 200 lbs and under 6 feet, ripped.  When questioned further, he would say it was because of their protein intake. HAHAHAAH

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #193 on: September 06, 2011, 09:37:39 PM »
Sure Ill comment. Thats Massive G. What does that have to do with me? I got no idea what that is about. Im a totally different individual. You would have to ask Massive G about that. You and Buselmo and Mr BMJ seem to be online friends....should I assume anything they say or recommend you do also? I wouldnt because I see you all as individuals. Now look above. You make all these assumptions of drugs used based on how Dorian Yates looked. I saw you do the same with me one time saying "obvious synthol use" in shoulders. I saw GH15 do the same with me one time stating 1500mg of testosterone a week and a bunch of tren. Im on TRT and have been for a few years. Synthol? You already know how wrong you were on that one. So if I see two individuals so very wrong regarding someone such as myself.....just imagine how wrong they are regarding someone like Yates. See I have no clue whatsoever what a certain pro bodybuilder does especially if I dont know them at all. You have no clue what a certain pro bodybuilder does and GH15 especially has no clue of what a certain pro bodybuilder does by just looking at him.

Do you know what every member does at Getbig does juicewise to the milligram by looking at their pictures? Does GH15? He has been so incredibly wrong on the few people I do know personally that its laughable. Ever train about 1000 people? I have. I have seen some rare super responders to gear that make your head spin. Most people dont respond like that but Ive seen a very rare few that its unbelievable. When you see certain individuals (usually black) who go from 188 pounds to 263 pounds hard as a rock in 2.5 years and you know exactly what they are doing (ahem because you know the guy who got them their stuff and they have no hook otherwise)....you have a mental door that stays open to the rare possibility that there are certain individuals that explode in training, eating and in response to drugs.

Again I think its very foolhardy to think "that guy is ripped so he must do DNP"....that guy is big so he is on insulin (most overrated compound ever in bodybuilding). Christ I got a guy now I help to put on size and he doesnt touch the stuff and everyone is commenting online about insulin with him (provides a good laugh but we dont argue the point...people will believe what they want to believe.... whats the use)

What does Ron Harris opinion have to do with my opinion? Tim Martin? I dont know Tim Martin in the least but please explain to me (and IM saying that respectively) please explain to me how a guy passes 30 blood, urine and lie detector tests over the years and doesnt get caught? I find that very hard to do. Could you pass 5 lie detector tests saying that you have never looked at online porn? Skip? Good friends with Phil, as much as I would love to broach that subject and provide some clear cut clarity, obviously it cannot be talked about (You and GH15 win! See how easy it is when the other guys cant talk about it due to friendships, no matter how very wrong he has been regarding him). Castleberry....much bigger now than as a teen, obviously took the step up (but Ive said that before haven't I?)

This is what I think you should personally do....as Ive seen you argue these points for years. I think you should go to a place (expo/seminar) where Dorian is or whatever guy you think is a liar is at and sit down with them and tell them personally your thoughts on what they are saying and let them have a chance to respond. See I have done that with alot of guys that you two have said wrong information about....when you talk to someone in person you get a good feel about who is lying and who isnt. Do you think I talk openly about anyone that I personally felt was lying to me? No i dont, thats why you dont hear about those individuals from me........ Then if you came online and said "I talked to Dorian, he told me his side of things, I stated mine....I still feel he isnt being truthful"....I would respect your opinion much more and give credence to it.  

B-boy is a perfect example of all this. He let people know what he was doing prior to this year and none of you guys believed him. You all called him a liar saying there is no way he could be that big on just that small amount competing nationally. Well this year he stepped things up and went in about 8 or so pounds heavier and also was truthful with everyone again like he has been in the past and now you all believe him because it fits in with your agenda....but didnt previously.

you know,, i dont know if you believe in thre balonie you say or you really just straight out liar,, it is really hard to understand the mentality in your brain ,, it has a lot to do with making buck out of bodybuild as we all know you and me ofcourse,, but since i really like disgusted and believe every word he say about you ....then i would tend to believe you are just not right in the head,,

first of,, IM IFBB TOP OF THE PRO CHART IM NOT ONLY TOP BUT IM THE ECLIPSE OF THE TOP I AM IN A VERY SMALL GROUP ,, THE CHIWAWA AND LEVRONE GROUP THE DENISE WOLFE AND DEXJAX GROUP,, THE TOP OF THE TOP ,, I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THERE AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO MUCH LOWER PLACES SUCH AS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND REGIONAL COMPETITION IN GEORGIA OF THE SOUTHERN STATES OF AMERICNAA OR IN WISCONSIN OR WHERE EVER YOU CHOSE THAT HAPPEN EVERY WEEK IN DIFF PLACE AROUND THE WORLD,,

YOU CAN NOT KEEP ON LIEING TO THIS FELLAS ,, YOU MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A RETARD,, EVERY SINGLE THING I SAY HERE IS CALCULATED TO THE T ,, WHY DO YOU THINK I DONT COME OUT FOR THEM WITH INSULINA PROTOCOLS YET AS AI PROMISED...WHY DONT I COME WITH DIURETIC PROTOCOLS,, IT IS BECAUSE I USE MY BRAIN AND I KNOW THAT THEE ARE 100S OF THOUSANDS FELLAS WHO READ ME ,, SO I KEEP SENSE INTO GH15 WRITING,, NOW! I DID SAY EXACTLY AND WAS VERY ACCURATE ABOUT WHAT FELLAS TAKE,, THE FACT THEY WONT ADMIT IT...IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LEFT TO THEIR PSYCAYATRIST,,

YOU CAN NOT TELL ME HERE YOU JUMP FROM 180 TO 260 UNLESS YOU BEEN ON MEGA DOSES AND ON LOTS AND LOTS OF HGH AND INSULINA,, YOU JUST DONT UNLESS THAT 260 IS ALSO AT 30% BODYFAT THEN YOU CAN DO IT WITH VERY LITTLE,, LIKE YOU YOU ARE VERY FAT...ARE YOU BIG? NO ..YOU ARE FAT...YES YOU GOT HORMONAL SIZE ON YOU BUT YOU ARE MAINLY FAT!

FOR YOU TO SAY THINGS SUCH AS PHILSULINA DOESNT DO INSULINA....AND TO SAY SOME OF THE BALONIE THAT CAME TO MY EARS..WHEN YOU KNOW! YOU KNOW THAT KUKLO THE KID CANT EVEN BREAK 220LB 6% UNLESS ON HGH AND INSULINA AND YOU KNOW IT!!  FOR YOU TO COME HRRE AND SAY ALL THIS BALONIE IS A SHAME! ITS PURE SHAME! ,, FOR YOU TO NOT COME HERE AND AMIDT THAT RAMOND IS ON THE VERGE OF DIEING FORM ALL THE SHIT HE IS ON IS A SHAME!

FOR YOU TO COME HERE AND NOT ACKNOLEDGE THE USE OF INSULINA DURING CARB UPS...WHICH IS HOW YUO DO THINGS NOW DAY AND BACK THEN TOO....IS A SHAME

FOR YOU TO COME HERE AND SAY THAT 260LB IS GENETIC FREAK WHIEL MOST OF THEM HOLD SO MUCH FAT IN THE MUSCLE YOU CANT SEE NO MORE SEPERATION THAT IS WORTH ANYTHING ....IS A SHAME

YOU ARE ANOTHER BIG REASON THIS CULT IS FUCKED UP,, BIG BIG REASON ,, YOU ARE A VERY VERY BIG REASON FOR THE SHIT THIS CULT IS IN ,,

THE REASON BODYBUILD LOOK LIKE A MESS NOW DAY AT 250LB 5'8 IS YOU! THE REASON THEY ALWAYS LOOK SOFT AND LOOK FAT FROM WITHIN YET LOW BODYFAT IS YOU AND YOUR DUMB LIES!,, YOU JUST DONT SAY THE TRUTH ,,

YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOLEGE THE USAGE OF MANY PRODUCTS IN THE CULT THAT ARE BODYBUILD EVERYDAY PRODUCTS,,

YOU DONT TALK ABOTU NARCOTICS AT ALL AND EVERY ONE KNOW HOW MUCH BODYBUILD RELY ON THEM ,, YOU DONT TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR DOSES OF INSULINE AND YOU GOT HERE MY PUPIL STAVIO PRACTICALLY GROW MONSTER BEFORE YOU FROM 200 TO 240 OF QUALITY! DUE TO ....INSULINA AND HGH...SO HE ACTUALY PROVE THE BALONIE THAT COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH EVERY SINGLE WEEK HERE,, YOU DONT TALK ABOTU DIURETIC ABUSE THAT IS ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR HOW ELSE WOULD THE BODYBUILD GET DRY? THE BODYBUILD WHO IS ON TONS OF HORMONES AND HOLD WATER...DIET? IT WIL GET HIM ONLY TO LOSE MUSCLE IF TRY TO GET VERY DRY ON TWIKING NUTRITION AND YOU KNOW THAT! YOU KNOW THAT!

DO YOU TELL THOSE KIDOS ANY SECRETS ABOTU BODYBUILD MENTAL LIFE ? DO YOU TELL THEM HOW TO PREVENT ANXIETY FROM TRENBOLONA? DO YOU YOU COCKROCH? DO YOU TELL THEM INORDER FOR THEM TO NOT BUY XANAX...DO Y UOTELL THEN THEY JUST NEED TO UP THE MASTERONA ?AND THAT WILL TAKE ANXIETY AWAY,,DO YOU EVER TELL THEM THAT KIND OF SECRET? DO YOU TELL THEM THTA IT ALL DEPENDENT ON THE ESTROGENIC LEVELS IN YOUR BLOOD?

NO ....I TELL YOU WHAT YOU DO TELL THEM,, I WILL

YOU TELL THEM THAT IF THEY PUT THE COUPON OF ILIKEMEATYCOCKS...IF THEY PUT IT IN THE LITTE WINDOW BEFORE CHECK OUT...THEY WILL GET 5% DISCOUNT ON YOUR NEW BIONIC GRASS FED BULL PROTIEN ,, THATS! WHAT YOU TELL THEM!

YOU RUINED A LOT DANTA AND SONS,, YOU MAKE DAMAGE TO THIS CULT THAT WIL BE WRITTEN IN BOOKS FOR YEARS AND YEARS,, YOU AND THE LIKES OF YOURS,,

I AM GOD OF HORMONES,, IM ONE FELLAS THAT CAME AND CHANGED THE CULT,, I CHANGED IT FROM THE BUTTOM UP! NTO FROM THE UP TO BUTTOM ,, THE UP IS STILL FILTH ,, BUT I CHANGED THE BUTTOM ,,NOW DAY THOSE KIDOS WHO NOW BECOME MEN....SEE YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE...THEY SEE YOU FOR THE FILTH YOU ARE,,THEY KNOW THAT BY ME SAYING YORU NAME IT REPRESENT ALL THE FILTHS AND ALL THE BUDS... SINCE THEY ARENOT YOUR FRIENDS...THE BUDS YOU HAVE ON INTERNET ,, THE SKIPIES AND THE RON HERISES AND THE BUNCH OF MORONS THAT RUINED THIS CULT ,, BUT! GH15 CAME ...AND EVERYTHING GOT HURT ,, I HURT YOUR BUSINESS,, YES I DID AND YOU KNOW IT NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY AND I HURT IT BECAUSE YOU SUCK! YOU LIE ! ,, I HURT RON HERISES ABILITY TO PUBLISH ANYTHING THAT ANYONE TAKE SERIOUSLY ,, I MADE LAY NORTOM LOOK LIEK A FOOL NOT ONLY ACT LIKE ONE FOR THE LIES,, I MADE A LOT OF FELAS LOOK INTO THE MIRROR AND ASK THEMSELVES MANY QUESTIONS,,

YOU SEE THE CHANGE EVERY DAY ON ALL BOARDINGS,, EVEN THE ONES WHO ARE WITH GOOLIBLE FELLAS...THEY TOO CHANGE,, I SINGLE HANDEDLY BECAME THE MOST TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUAL IN BODYBUILDING AND THE TOPIC OF MANY SUBJECTS ,,,WHY? BECAUSE I TELL THE TRUTH...THE FELLAS AROUND THE BOARDINGS..EVEN THE GOOLIBLE FELLAS ,, NOW DAYS THEY ALL ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION AND THAT QUESTION IS ...WHAT IS THIS BODYBUILD NOT USING...RATHER THAN WHAT IS THIS BODYBUILD USING!

YOU ARE WORSE THAN MILOS SARCEV BECAUSE YOU LIE WITH NO RECORD OF ACHIVMENTS! BIG PROBLEM ,, YOU ARE A BIG BIG PROBLEN BUT YOU WIL BE DEALT WITH

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #194 on: September 06, 2011, 09:42:22 PM »
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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #195 on: September 06, 2011, 09:44:44 PM »
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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #196 on: September 06, 2011, 09:50:27 PM »
Ok and with that point being made did Dorian do anything logical? Look at the way he trained, nobody else trained like that. How come he didnt think on the same lines then and say "well everyone else is training 3 days on one day off with 12-20 sets per bodypart, I should to or I wont hold on to these bodybuilding titles"
In my book if there ever was a bodybuilder that went by what he thought was the right way and only what he thought.....its Dorian Yates.
With that said....I allready told the people at pro muscle my thoughts on the whole thing as it pertains to information I got back in 95 or 96....I personally dont know Dorian Yates. My opinion is this and only this regarding this ongoing argumentative subject......where are the pro cards? Everyone and their brother keep saying that if you take enough drugs you can be a pro. There are so MANY people in this sport that want this stuff so darn badly their whole lives are encompassed by the mirror. They live breath and sleep pro bodybuilding and their ultimate goal stupidly is an IFBB pro card over a degree in college. Hundreds upon thousands of guys like that especially on these boards. The information supposedly is right there in front of everyone. Take enough sauce and listen to these guys on message boards who continually tell you that if you blast enough of this and that and that over there you too will find bodybuilding glory. Where are the pro cards? Because I keep seeing these genetically elite black guys come out of nowhere and get pro cards instead of these muscle message board members who have been on the boards the last 10 years who know the "secret" and want bodybuilding glory.


thsoe pro cards are there,,, its the competition thaqt got much harder....because evreryone now day due to ME know whats up and at the end there are not 1000s of pro cards....the competition is very high ,, but! again the fellas your sorry ass talk about....thsoe fells sit and listen TO YOUR BALONIES ON STEROID BOARDSING,, ON YOUR STUPIF BOARD THEY LISTEN AND FOLLOW YOUR BALONIE EXECISE ROUTINES AND YOUR LIES...THATS WHY THEY ARE STUCK! ITS BECAUSE OF FELLAS LIKE YOU AND THAT SKIP FELLA AND DANTA AND SONS AS I CALL THIS PHENOMENON ,, THIS IS WHY! THEY DONT GET NO WHERE,,

KUKLO THE KID ,, LEFT YOUR SORRY ASS,, HE LISTEN TO ME! AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED,, HE JUMPED ON MEGA INSULINA AND HGH AND FINALY COULD SEE HOW IT REALLY IS DONE! ,, AND YES TROPOPIN SHOW HIM THE WAY ....BUT HE WAS CHOSEN TO BE SHOWN THE WAY BY ......DRUG DEALERS...SUCH AS YOU AND TROPOPIN AND FEW OTHERS WHO LIE TO EVERYONE AND WILL TRY TO ....M A K E MONEY ON WHOMEEVER THEY THINK HAS BETTER CHANCES AS PRO!

this is the reality danta... i can not stand you ,, you are such a filth that you make bodybuild a very miserable activity for so many fellas,, and you yourself is just a name...there are many like you ,, they prey on the weak,, you know what prey on the weak is? you chose the oens you want to work with.....and to them you will shove what needed to...and then there is the rest...the ones who you will sellbalonie too ...since you got to make a living,,

you are a huge problem in the gh15 way of teaching,, i really really can not stand you and i keep repeating it ,, ron heris is another example ,, this type of fellas will come and tell my pupils...oh not anyone can be a pro or top amatuer...oh yes ANY ONE CAN ,, IT IS THE FACT THAT THE ONES WHO DO TURN PROFESIONAL AND TOP PRO DONT SIT AND FOLLOW YOUR BALONIE ON INTERNET ,, THEY SIT AND ORDER THEIR 3RD PACKAGE THIS MONTH USPS STYLE ,,

THOSE FELLAS ARE NOT SCARED TO TRY DIURETIC WHEN LEAN AND TO FINALY SEE THAT DIURETIC WIL TKAE THE WATER OFF OF THEM....AND IT WONT FLATEN THEM ....IF YOU ARE LEAN YOU ARE LEAN ,, THOSE FELLAS ARE NOT SCARED TO TAKE MASTERONA AND SEE THAT IT CAN CHNAGE PHYSIQE LOOK IN MATTER OF FUCKIN H O U R S IF BODYBUILD IS LEAN ! ,,THIS FELLAS KNOW AND TAKE INSULINA BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU CANT GET TO NO 260 ANYTHING IN CONDITION WITH OUT IT! IF IT WAS POSSIBLE ARNOLD WOULD BE 260 ...ACTUALY 290.... SINCE HE WAS 6;1

DO YOU EVEN LISTEN TO YOUR BALONIE? YOU TALK HERE 5'8 FELLAS WALKING 280LB ...YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND K,, YOU ARE A SICK LIAR! ,, YOU ARE A SICK MAKING BUCK OUT OF GOOLIBLE HEADS KIND OF LIAR!

KUKLO THE KID COMPETE IN THE 260S! HE IS ARNOLD HEIGHT LITTLE SHORTER...SO HE COMPETE AT 270 IS ARNOLD HEIGHT!! WHIEL ARNOLD COMPETED AT 225!!! DO YOU FUCKIN GET IT IN YOUR FUCKIN BRAIN !! AND ARNOLD MAKE KUKLO THE KID LOOK LIEK HE NEVER LIFTED A WEIGHT IN HIS LIFE! WHY? BECAUSE KUKLO THE KID MUSCLE ......IS ALL INSULINA AND HGH ,, IT IS NOT DEVELOPED WORKED ON MUSCLE ,, IT IS DRUG ADDICT ON LOTS OF HORMONES MUSCLE,,

YOU ARE A SNAKE AND A REALLY REALLY REALY DEIVING TYPE OF SNAKE,, I WISH YOU HARM

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #197 on: September 06, 2011, 10:07:25 PM »
since we are all guessing at the exact cycles of the pros...


the average pro cycle is about 3cc's per day of aas

it just makes the most sense to me.. if i had the funds to run whatever i wanted as much as i wanted.. id do one full syringe per day.. i know this thought process is going to occur in these pros..

so about 3-4 grams.

it depends,, depends what in those 3 cc,, sometime you got to take 3 cc in each ass cheek to get everything,, even when the best chefs do special work for you it still mount to good number of injections ,, unless the chef really does something extra ordinary ...but top chefs wont take the risk to make combo of 5 diff things...they are highly profesional ,, their ability to do this is art and they wont take the risk and play with 6 compounds into 1 vial,, they wil do mixings of stuff within reason ,,

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2011, 10:11:41 PM »
  This thread is Dorian approved. :D

look at this picture VERY VERY WELL,, this is what gh15 meant,, thank you to whoever got it here since i dont have much time rightn ow,,

THIS IS HRT DOSES! ,,THIS IS HRT 500MG A WEEK DOSES FILTH DANTA...

AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT HE IS ON TO LOOK LIK ETHIS! IN THIS PICTUR!

250-500mg a week testosterona

gh at low dose


this is it ,, since he is insulina dependent most likley very small doses of insulina,, its again not must but most bodybuild become insulina dependent now day and need to continue it in some form or another ,, most! not all so he may not be the caswe

100% testosterona and hgh in blood in this picture,,

how much does he weigh there?? this is your natural dorian friends

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Re: Dorian Yates steroid cycles from his own mouth
« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2011, 10:24:08 PM »
Dante is right to a point for sure.  I know this first hand.  Had three friends, one was Arab, one was black and the other an Italian guy.  All worked out for years and had that swimmers look, all decided to take steroids at the same time.  Just basic test, winny and deca.  All took the same dose and all worked out together the same time everyday.  The Italian guy blew the fuck up.  His muscles swole like no tomorrow. The black guy got bigger but reall just got deeper cuts and looked like a tank and the arab guy barely grew.  The fact is genetic response to drugs was the key.  I don't even think if the Arab guy took three times as much that he would have matched the other two guys in size.  The Italian guy responsed amazingly.  it is what it is.  The "elite" bodybuilders are genetic drug response freaks.  

As for Dante, TRT is steroids.  Calling it TRT doesn't pull this magical cloak over the fact that you are still injecting steroids and pharma quality steroids to boot.  Calling it TRT but taking two needles a week of Pfizer 200mg test cyp is better than 1 gram of any UG shit out there.

good story i definitely believe it. always wondered though Why is it  italian guys respond so incredibly well  to drugs? frank sepe, demayo, matarazo, levrone few off the top of my head. all were FREAKS, but naturally small guys without drugs
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