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Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« on: September 05, 2011, 05:28:34 PM »
Government Sues Trucking Company for Taking Keys Away From Alcoholic Driver
Fox News ^ | 9/2/11 | Stephen Clark
Posted on September 3, 2011 11:43:33 AM EDT by Impala64ssa

Citing a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Obama administration is suing a trucking company for taking the keys away from an Arkansas driver and eventually firing him after he admitted he was battling alcohol abuse.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a lawsuit this week arguing that Old Dominion Freight Line discriminated against Charles Grams by stripping him of his position and offering him a demotion even if he completed a substance abuse counseling program.

Instead, the EEOC argued, the North Carolina-based company, which has a service center in Arkansas, should have complied with the law, known as the ADA, while ensuring safety.

“The ADA mandates that persons with disabilities have an equal opportunity to achieve in the workplace,” said Katharine Kores, director of the EEOCs Memphis District Office, which covers Arkansas. “While the EEOC agrees that an employer’s concern regarding safety on our highways is a legitimate issue, an employer can both ensure safety and comply with the ADA.”

The EEOC says alcoholism is a recognized disability under the ADA and that the company violated the law with its policy that bans any driver who admits alcohol abuse from driving again.

The EEOC wants the company to reinstate Grams and another affected driver to their previous positions and provide them with back pay, compensatory and punitive damages and compensation for lost benefits. The EEOC is also seeking to block the company’s alcohol-related policy.

The company's policy bans any driver who self-reports alcohol abuse from driving again. Reassignment to a non-driving position is contingent upon the driver enrolling in a treatment program.

Joel McCarty, general counsel to Old Dominion, wouldn’t comment on the details of the pending litigation. But he told FoxNews.com, “We intend to vigorously defend our position.” snip “Our concern is safety,” he said.

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 05:29:55 PM »
And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone? 

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 06:08:30 PM »
I wonder if uncle Omar qualifies as having a disability now and will qualify for citizenship? 

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 06:34:41 PM »
When does alcoholism qualify as a disability?

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 06:35:48 PM »
When does alcoholism qualify as a disability?

When obama is potus and up is down and down is up.

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 06:53:34 PM »
And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone? 

yeah, like this one incident is one of the reason why companies are hiring

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 06:57:08 PM »
yeah, like this one incident is one of the reason why companies are hiring

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It's this, Gibson, Boeing, it's obamacare, it's the wild spending, it's the anti business rhetoric, it's the neo-marxists in the WH, it's the failed economic policies, and in and on.

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 08:10:06 PM »
It's this, Gibson, Boeing, it's obamacare, it's the wild spending, it's the anti business rhetoric, it's the neo-marxists in the WH, it's the failed economic policies, and in and on.

it's lack of demand

that's it

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 08:12:55 PM »
it's lack of demand

that's it


Yeah, why is that?   

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 08:20:31 PM »

Yeah, why is that?   

why is there lack of demand?

is that what you're asking me?

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 08:23:56 PM »
why is there lack of demand?

is that what you're asking me?


Yeah - why is there lack of demand.   Tell me genius why people refuse to spend, invest, etc. 

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2011, 08:29:26 PM »
Yeah - why is there lack of demand.   Tell me genius why people refuse to spend, invest, etc. 

well there are about 8 million people who have lost their jobs and so they don't have any extra money to spend

there are a lot of companies sitting on tons of cash but without more people to buy their goods and services they have no reason to higher more employees

we're talking about the current state of the economy in general

there are always innovative businesses that are growing and will higher people as needed


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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2011, 08:31:32 PM »
krugmans space invasion is looking better by the day.

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2011, 08:33:41 PM »
wait so he was or wasn't driving drunk?  The title calls him a drunk driver but I don't see where he was drinking and driving?  all trucking companies can fire you for dui.  If the guy likes to chug down beers on his days off, that doesn't make him a "drunk driver"

I mean shit, we let a man who admitted he was an alcoholic become president lol...

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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 08:34:23 PM »
krugmans space invasion is looking better by the day.

assuming you understand/agree the problem is lack of demand

feel free to offer you own explanation for the cause of the problem

shit, if we get that far we can even talk about solutions


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Re: Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2011, 08:38:34 PM »
wait so he was or wasn't driving drunk?  The title calls him a drunk driver but I don't see where he was drinking and driving?  all trucking companies can fire you for dui.  If the guy likes to chug down beers on his days off, that doesn't make him a "drunk driver"


Don't know - but guess what?   Once the company knows this guy is a drunk, if they allow him to drive again and this guy causes an accident while drunk, they are F U C K E D.     It's a liability issue. 

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2011, 08:45:49 PM »

Don't know - but guess what?   Once the company knows this guy is a drunk, if they allow him to drive again and this guy causes an accident while drunk, they are F U C K E D.     It's a liability issue.  
your title is still misleading.  It's lacking the complete facts.  For all we know from this story he could have filled out a form that asked if he drank more than 3 beers a week and he checked yes and the company calls that alcohol abuse.  The details would be nice.  The title to the thread is already a lie.

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 08:48:21 PM »
your title is still misleading.  It's lacking the complete facts.  For all we know from this story he could have filled out a form that asked if he drank more than 3 beers a week and he checked yes and the company calls that alcohol abuse.  The details would be nice.  The title to the thread is already a lie.


take it up w fox news.   

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 08:51:33 PM »

take it up w fox news.  
you posted it, you take it up with them lol...

It does sound bad but I'll wait till the case is actually discussed so we know the details.  If someone is drinking on their days off, who gives a shit.

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 08:53:18 PM »
you posted it, you take it up with them lol...

Let's say the guy did fill out a form and admitted to being drunk or an alchi.  That's discoverable material in a lawsuit in the event of a suit.   

Company had to fire this guy. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2011, 09:01:13 PM »
Let's say the guy did fill out a form and admitted to being drunk or an alchi.  That's discoverable material in a lawsuit in the event of a suit.   

Company had to fire this guy. 
All I'm saying is that I don't know what he admitted.  Company policy could be that anything over 3 beers a week is alcohol abuse and he checked a box because he has 4 beers a week.  None of the important facts are there.  Since the title is a lie, I would like to hear the case when it's made before saying this is stupid.  There's no evidense that he ever was under the influence behind the wheel provided yet fox labed him a drunk driver.  What else did they leave out?  I'll wait and see before I call stupid, especially knowing fox news.

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2011, 09:02:36 PM »
All I'm saying is that I don't know what he admitted.  Company policy could be that anything over 3 beers a week is alcohol abuse and he checked a box because he has 4 beers a week.  None of the important facts are there.  Since the title is a lie, I would like to hear the case when it's made before saying this is stupid.  There's no evidense that he ever was under the influence behind the wheel provided yet fox labed him a drunk driver.  What else did they leave out?  I'll wait and see before I call stupid, especially knowing fox news.


I'll look tomorrow if I can find more on this.

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2011, 09:12:05 PM »

I'll look tomorrow if I can find more on this.
I looked.  They said they're not discussing the case so it'll have to come out later.  I mean serious, what if he just said something at work like, "everytime I go to my mother in laws house for christmas, I have to drink just to get through the missery"  On face value this does sound stupid for them to be suing on this.

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2011, 09:47:21 PM »
And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone? 

How can companies exist if they refuse to hire anyone...