I think everyone needs to adjust there judging based on what we have to choose from. Kai looks like shit, absolutely terrible. No traps to speak of, oil in arms (yes a lot of guys have oil in their arms but his dont look good), huge gut. He's got low lats that's it. You're gonna give him the O for that, cmon? Jay is the worst Mr. O EVER. NO TAPER and dont bring out that famous leg shot to show he's got taper. His waist is prob 45 FUCKING inches! Just looks smooth everywhere. Almost every back shot of Jay's is awful, folds of skin in his lower back. From what we have to choose from Phil is the best. Too bad Victor is done, he could be a good Mr. O