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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2011, 07:29:02 AM »
no one despises millionaires....just wants them to pay their fair share which they are NOT doing....Corporations as well......its not unreasonable to ask this

What about the 47% who pay nothing at all?

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2011, 07:31:36 AM »
no just guys like you who won't see the truth and won't listen to reason

So to you it is reasonable to spend another $470 billion more in stimulus when the other $800 billion have done nothing. Why is that logical?

If you think that is reasonable then you are as stupid and as nutty as the president.

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2011, 07:31:57 AM »
LMAO - got your super duper knee pads on today?

I borrowed the ones you have been using on Donald trump, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, etc, etc

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2011, 07:33:10 AM »
What about the 47% who pay nothing at all?

well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2011, 07:34:45 AM »
So to you it is reasonable to spend another $470 billion more in stimulus when the other $800 billion have done nothing. Why is that logical?

If you think that is reasonable then you are as stupid and as nutty as the president.

its obvious that something has to be done...and if you do something then its going to cost money..simple as that....you and the other idiots on here say the president must do something and now he is....but you complain any way.....

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2011, 07:35:52 AM »
well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

Did you weep for joy last night?  

"Oh Barack . . .how wonderful you are!  Oh dearest POTUS . .  . can you accept my meager $2500 contribution to your second immaculation?  Please Dearest Barack  . . .send me another Christmas Card . . "  

is that what you were like last night?

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2011, 07:36:39 AM »
its obvious that something has to be done...and if you do something then its going to cost money..simple as that....you and the other idiots on here say the president must do something and now he is....but you complain any way.....

Right - cause the last 5 Trillion we gave him worked out so well.   Maybe if we only give him another half trillion all will work out. 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2011, 07:37:06 AM »
Did you weep for joy last night?  

"Oh Barack . . .how wonderful you are!  Oh dearest POTUS . .  . can you accept my meager $2500 contribution to your second immaculation?  Please Dearest Barack  . . .send me another Christmas Card . . "  

is that what you were like last night?

hahahah...funny!......I thought the speech was a great one.....yes

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2011, 07:38:34 AM »
hahahah...funny!......I thought the speech was a great one.....yes

LMFAO! ! !  !

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2011, 07:42:15 AM »
LMFAO! ! !  !

if Obama gave a speech saying "free pussy for everyone" you would still think it was a bad speech :)

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2011, 07:43:03 AM »
if Obama gave a speech saying "free pussy for everyone" you would still think it was a bad speech :)

The only speech I want to hear from him is his resignation speech. 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2011, 10:22:38 AM »

Well, when you have corporations shipping jobs overseas, lowering wages, laying off people at the same time collecting multimillion dollar bonuses, then yes there is a serious problem.

The middle class is simply being stripped away and what's going to be left is going to be similar to the Dark Ages.  A small group of extremely wealthy people...and everyone else will be serfs.

Corporations don't collect multimillion dollar bonuses. 

I can see why Obama has an audience.  I know a number of people who have bought into the class warfare rhetoric.  It's a shame.  Pitting groups against each other is unproductive.  And the information used by the president and other liberals is flat out false. 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2011, 10:23:59 AM »
What happened to the American dream?  This nation has become a place where the wealthy are despised and blamed for the bulk of the economic problems. Castigated for supposedly not doing enough. Not paying enough taxes, while the government recklessly spends beyond its limits.

It has become a nation where success is punished, instead of encouraged.

It's pretty dumb.  We're all supposed to be trying to build wealth, but if you actually reach a certain threshold (whatever that is), you become da debil.   ::)

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2011, 10:26:05 AM »
Corporations don't collect multimillion dollar bonuses. 

I can see why Obama has an audience.  I know a number of people who have bought into the class warfare rhetoric.  It's a shame.  Pitting groups against each other is unproductive.  And the information used by the president and other liberals is flat out false. 


You know I was referring to the corporate executives....
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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2011, 10:27:53 AM »
Is called Chicago saul Alinsky tactics.

Obama is a street thug and no different than a rabble rouser and community communist.   

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2011, 10:40:17 AM »

You know I was referring to the corporate executives....

I know what you said, not what you meant.  Thanks for clarifying. 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2011, 10:44:06 AM »
It's pretty dumb.  We're all supposed to be trying to build wealth, but if you actually reach a certain threshold (whatever that is), you become da debil.   ::)

Castro and Chavez style propaganda! 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2011, 10:55:44 AM »
Castro and Chavez style propaganda! 

Yep.

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2011, 11:09:19 AM »
well they do pay...out of their payroll taxes......but I agree that they should pay more as well

Incorrect - they also get a refund......the 47%  refers to those whose net payments are ZERO, either through reductions, credits, or income levels low enough to not qualify.
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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2011, 12:29:34 PM »
Georgia jobs program cited by Obama has big flaws
7:46am EDT
By Matthew Bigg



ATLANTA (Reuters) - A jobs program in the Southern state of Georgia, cited in President Barack Obama's plan to fight unemployment, needs big fixes and would not work as a federal initiative, says the official who runs it.

Obama told Congress on Thursday in a major speech on jobs that the state-run Georgia Work$ initiative, along with other measures, would help people unemployed for more than six months and he stressed that Republican leaders in Congress supported it.

"We have to do more to help the long-term unemployed in their search for work," Obama said. Fear the U.S. economy could slip back into recession is hurting the Democratic president's chances of re-election in 2012.

"This jobs plan builds on a program in Georgia that several Republican leaders have highlighted where people who collect unemployment insurance participate in temporary work as a way to build their skills while they look for a permanent job," Obama told Congress.

But Georgia Work$ is being restructured to overcome significant flaws. Even within the state, it is seen as "not a marquee program," said state Labor Commissioner Mark Butler, the Republican elected official who oversees it.

More than 30,000 people benefited from the program in the past, but in its current form, Georgia Work$ is tiny. Only 12 unemployed people signed up in August and 92 have done so since February, according to state Department of Labor statistics.

The voluntary program places unemployed people with firms for eight weeks of job training similar to an internship. Participants receive unemployment insurance plus a small stipend and have the chance of a job at the end of it.

Butler said the program he inherited in January was virtually bankrupt and "fraught with problems," so he is surprised it has attracted so much national attention.

Obama gave no details of how the program would be applied at a national level and Butler said his office had had no contact with the White House.

"We think that the foundation (idea) has merit but we don't believe that the program we have right now is as effective as it could be and it needs a lot of tweaking," Butler said.

"I don't really like the idea of federalizing this program.

.... We would like to make some changes to it and we would like to stay in control of it and not have it mandated from Washington," Butler said in reaction to the speech.

Butler said it was just one tool to fight unemployment in Georgia, which stood at 10.1 percent in July and has exceeded the U.S. average for the past 48 months. Losses in manufacturing, construction and finance have been severe.

SKILLS DEFICIT

One advantage of the initiative is that it reduces the risk for employers who want to hire, former Labor Commissioner Mike Thurmond, a Democrat who set up the program in 2003, told Reuters Insider.

Yet employers remain wary. Local business leaders who spoke in Athens, Georgia, this week linked their reluctance to hire to concern over future demand in a struggling economy.

They also cited a skills deficit among the unemployed.

In one example, construction equipment maker JCB North America set out last November to fill 200 new skilled manufacturing jobs at its headquarters in Savannah, Georgia.

"We thought it would be a fairly easy task given the high unemployment figures especially here in Georgia but we have had significant difficulties in finding the skilled labor," general marketing manager Karen Guinn said.

'CAN THE GOVERNMENT HELP?'

Georgia Work$ had been successful but only "at the margins," said Thomas Smith, a finance professor at Emory University's Goizueta business school. He said it needed more rigorous follow-up with employers to maximize its potential -- something that would increase administrative costs.

Butler said it would provide more help for low-skilled unemployed people than jobless professionals and he would welcome dialogue with other states that wanted to use it as a model.

The program has undergone substantial recent change. Between March 2003 and July 2011, employers accepted some 32,000 participants into training.

Of those, some 24 percent who completed training were hired, officials said, although they acknowledged the program's statistics needed to be improved. There are no figures on long-term job retention and state administrative costs have not been tallied.

In September 2010, the program was opened to any job seeker, the stipend was increased to $600 from $240 and its length was reduced to six weeks from eight. Monthly participation jumped to a peak of 4,081 in January this year.

But the changes blew through the annual budget and Butler began an overhaul and reinstated the original conditions in a move that decimated the participation rate.

The program has no dedicated staff and lacks a full-time leader. In a further sign of its low profile, its website is buried within the departmental site and is less prominent than another state training scheme, Georgia Work Ready.

(Editing by Peter Cooney)


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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2011, 12:50:46 PM »
The only speech I want to hear from him is his resignation speech. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So, I can accept that you don't feel President Obama is doing his job well. What I don't get is why you are so married to your "hatred" toward him that you find it necessary to spend a good portion of your waking time posting negative opinions about everything he does....including, if I remember correctly, his golf game and his vacation plans. What has President Obama done to you personally?

One wonders, do you work? Are you posting your hateful political vitriol while sitting at your desk instead of doing whatever you job is? Do you not have a social life outside of posting on Getbig? -No family....no friends?

I guess if President Obama should win reelection in 2012, you'll have to commit suicide or move to another country, huh?

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2011, 12:54:45 PM »
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. So, I can accept that you don't feel President Obama is doing his job well. What I don't get is why you are so married to your "hatred" toward him that you find it necessary to spend a good portion of your waking time posting negative opinions about everything he does....including, if I remember correctly, his golf game and his vacation plans. What has President Obama done to you personally?

One wonders, do you work? Are you posting your hateful political vitriol while sitting at your desk instead of doing whatever you job is? Do you not have a social life outside of posting on Getbig? -No family....no friends?

I guess if President Obama should win reelection in 2012, you'll have to commit suicide or move to another country, huh?

Facts speak for themselves. 

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2011, 02:07:04 PM »
Obama TV ratings drop for joint session speech - lowest ever.
washington examiner ^ | washington examiner


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President Obama’s jobs speech represented the lowest ratings he’s received for any address to a joint session of Congress of his presidency.

The speech garnered 31.5 million viewers, according to the website TVbythenumbers, which was slightly lower than his Sept. 2009 health care speech to Congress, which drew 32.1 million viewers and is probably the fairest comparison.

But viewed against other addresses to Congress, it looks worse, and is part of a broader downward trend.

During his first speech to a joint session of Congress in February 2009, Obama drew 52.4 million viewers. His first official State of the Union Address on January 2010 drew 48 million viewers and this year’s SOTU had 42.8 million.

His highest rated speech of all time was his speech on the death of Osama bin Laden, which drew 56.5 million viewers, though it wasn’t to a joint session.


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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2011, 08:27:03 PM »
Is called Chicago saul Alinsky tactics.

Obama is a street thug and no different than a rabble rouser and community communist.   


anyone that's black, to you, is a street thug

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Re: How long did you make it through President Downgrade's campaign speech?
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2011, 08:28:05 PM »
Incorrect - they also get a refund......the 47%  refers to those whose net payments are ZERO, either through reductions, credits, or income levels low enough to not qualify.

I can tell you that not all of those people get refunds...sorry