Author Topic: 2011 Olympia - Experts Disagree on Mr. O Predictions (Read 7282 times)

quadzilla456 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 11, 2011, 09:33:57 AM »

Quote from: Figo on September 11, 2011, 07:57:24 AM

has lonnie teper ever trained?

as another poster said, this is not a sport you can support if youve never had a personal interest in it

^^^
this

Ron · « **Reply #26 on:** September 11, 2011, 09:52:54 AM »

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that word "expert" sure gets thrown around loosely these days

We tried to use the 'The Three Stooges' but got a letter of warning from the Howard family.
We tried to use 'Manny, Moe and Jack', but got a letter of warning from the Pep Boys.

So yes, 'experts' are in quotations because it is meant as a pun on who is an expert these days.
While the three of us combined have been in the around for over 40+ years, we can have fun on it.

As we all should -

SF1900 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:10:32 AM »

Quote from: Figo on September 11, 2011, 07:57:24 AM

has lonnie teper ever trained?

as another poster said, this is not a sport you can support if youve never had a personal interest in it

Lonnie Teper wants you to PEEL!!!

Meso_z · « **Reply #28 on:** September 11, 2011, 10:48:18 AM »

hmm why does Ron have Kai 1st?

Does he knows or "seen" anything we dont?

Reeves · « **Reply #29 on:** September 11, 2011, 11:17:02 AM »

Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2011, 09:52:54 AM

We tried to use the 'The Three Stooges' but got a letter of warning from the Howard family.
We tried to use 'Manny, Moe and Jack', but got a letter of warning from the Pep Boys.

So yes, 'experts' are in quotations because it is meant as a pun on who is an expert these days.
While the three of us combined have been in the around for over 40+ years, we can have fun on it.

As we all should -

Excellent reply, being well laced with both humor and humility!

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 11, 2011, 11:42:37 AM »

Quote from: deceiver on September 11, 2011, 02:49:48 AM

Lionel Beyeke Mr. O 2011

wont happen but he has the best physique in pro bbing

Swede! · « **Reply #31 on:** September 11, 2011, 12:19:33 PM »

will bump dis thread later with link. no need to respond now

Meso_z · « **Reply #32 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:35:49 PM »

Fuck you.

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:41:28 PM »

Swede - You still have a link to the site where you're just randomly in a chat room with someone? That shit was teh funny.

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #34 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:50:06 PM »

It's called omegle, google it and it'll come straight up

Swede! · « **Reply #35 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:52:50 PM »

edit* you responded to above post

Meso_z · « **Reply #36 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:58:19 PM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on September 11, 2011, 01:41:28 PM

Swede - You still have a link to the site where you're just randomly in a chat room with someone? That shit was teh funny.

lololol

io856 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 11, 2011, 01:58:47 PM »

wow jay really has come in great condition!

kai is dominating from the side for sure

looks like jay is gonna take it again

MCWAY · « **Reply #38 on:** September 11, 2011, 05:45:31 PM »

Quote from: mass243 on September 11, 2011, 04:58:18 AM

I don't get it.

They all seriously put Dex in top 6 LOL

Well, maybe now that Branch is out, Dex can place at 6th but that's it. At max. Probably lower. Kid is finished. Get over it. Let him rest already.

Yep, All Dex has done is placed top 5 at the Olympia the last five years, including WINNING THE TITLE in 2008. Why on Earth would he be in the top 6?

mantronik · « **Reply #39 on:** September 11, 2011, 05:55:04 PM »

So you're saying based on his name and history alone he should be in the top 6, never mind what he looks like or if there are better guys in there this year? You could be on to something since this is the IFBB...

MCWAY · « **Reply #40 on:** September 11, 2011, 05:59:54 PM »

Quote from: mantronik on September 11, 2011, 05:55:04 PM

So you're saying based on his name and history alone he should be in the top 6, never mind what he looks like or if there are better guys in there this year?
You could be on to something since this is the IFBB...

Nope. I'm saying that Dexter Jackson has been a consistent player at the Olympia, who manages to stay in the mix. Nobody thought he'd win the O. But, he did it. Granted, the only way he could do it is if Jay was off (which he was in 2008).

If Dex gets his old form back, and some others miss their mark, he could wiggle his way back to the title.

abijahmaniaco · « **Reply #41 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:04:24 PM »

dex won bc judges knew they gave the title to the wrong man THE YEAR BEFORE. that's why these predictions are so important. like nasser said most judges have in their mind who will win before the show, before the prejudging.

mantronik · « **Reply #42 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:09:15 PM »

Dexter IS consistent indeed. Always in the top just like Shawn (only with a Sandow, unlike Shawn), but I think there are guys out there that are improving (winning ground on Dex) every year unlike Dex who stays consistent and therefore should fade out of the mix if you do the (non IFBB) math.
Don't get me wrong, I was happy for him when he won in 2008, but I also stay objective and find that he should be fading out if the field keeps winning ground on him without him really making the necessary improvements.
You said it right:

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If Dex gets his old form back, and some others miss their mark

So you too are saying that his placing is depending on others shape whereas "the others" are battling for top spots in their best shape.

Not relevant: I hope he at least changes his posing routine and his 'irritated' look on his face as he's doing his routine to jack up the crowd.

MCWAY · « **Reply #43 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:10:06 PM »

Quote from: abijahmaniaco on September 11, 2011, 06:04:24 PM

dex won bc judges knew they gave the title to the wrong man THE YEAR BEFORE. that's why these predictions are so important. like nasser said most judges have in their mind who will win before the show, before the prejudging.

No. Dex won because he was ON and Jay was OFF (even moreso than he was in 2007). Had Jay been on the money (as he was in 2009), it would have been a different story.

MCWAY · « **Reply #44 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:13:14 PM »

Quote from: mantronik on September 11, 2011, 06:09:15 PM

Dexter IS consistent indeed. Always in the top just like Shawn (only with a Sandow, unlike Shawn), but I think there are guys out there that are improving (winning ground on Dex) every year unlike Dex who stays consistent and therefore should fade out of the mix if you do the (non IFBB) math.
Don't get me wrong, I was happy for him when he won in 2008, but I also stay objective and find that he should be fading out if the field keeps winning ground on him without him really making the necessary improvements.
You said it right: So you too are saying that his placing is depending on others shape whereas "the others" are battling for top spots in their best shape.

Not relevant: I hope he at least changes his posing routine and his 'irritated' look on his face as he's doing his routine to jack up the crowd.

Dex said himself, the only way he wins the Olympia is if he nails his conditions AND Jay Cutler is off. As luck would have it, such was the case in 2008.

Dex doesn't need to make a lot of improvements, in terms of development. It's about his condition. When he's in top form, he can beat (and has beaten) the best up there, including Cutler.

mantronik · « **Reply #45 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:14:17 PM »

Quote from: MCWAY on September 11, 2011, 06:13:14 PM

Dex doesn't need to make a lot of improvements, in terms of development. It's about his condition. When he's in top form, he can beat (and has beaten) the best up there, including Cutler.

...if they are off...

GroinkTropin · « **Reply #46 on:** September 11, 2011, 06:16:58 PM »

Ron why do you have Kai in first? I am very impressed with the man, but Jay is TOUGH to beat. What do you see or what have you seen verrrrry recently that has drawn you to this conclusion?

io856 · « **Reply #47 on:** September 18, 2011, 12:50:59 AM »

Quote from: TK on September 10, 2011, 05:14:34 PM

From Lonnie Teper's blog

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/?p=3121

The moment you’ve all been waiting for has finally arrived. The “Experts” have put their Mr. Olympia predictions on the line. And, as usual, it’s not a party line vote. The most acclaimed “Expert”, the Swami, is again going with Jay Cutler to make it five Sandows this coming weekend at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas, NV. Hardbody Hinds is, per usual, shouting that nobody will touch Phil Heath this year, and says The Gift should have been unwrapped in 2010. Yogi Avidan insists Kai Greene, coming off his easy win at the New York Pro in May, will be mean and lean en route to his first Olympia crown. All three had Branch Warren in the top five; Branch will sit this one out after tearing a quad on August 20 at a guest posing appearance.

Drum roll, please:

SWAMI

1. Jay Cutler
2. Phil Heath
3. Kai Greene
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Victor Martinez

HARDBODY HINDS

1. Phil Heath
2. Jay Cutler
3. Kai Greene
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Victor Martinez

YOGI AVIDAN

1. Kai Greene
2. Jay Cutler
3. Phil Heath
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Dennis Wolf
6. Ronny Rockel

Although the “Experts” agree to disagree on the Mr. O, all three are going with Kevin English to make it three wins in the 202 and Under Challenge.

We’re out.

nice

Author Topic: 2011 Olympia - Experts Disagree on Mr. O Predictions (Read 7282 times)

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