Lymphoma cancer and how to WIN

[Marty Champions]

i know that getting your tonsils removed because of chronic inflamtion is the first lymph node that is defected because of poor diet/ consuming meat. having lyphoma cancer means the other nodes in your body are becoming inflamed also.

i doubt media will reveal if the sparticus guy had his tonsils removed, of course they dont want the public to have too much knowledge of the medical side.

ive never had a sore throat or any thing since going vegetarian and yes ive had my tonsils removed back when i was eating tons of meat and they were swollen like a white golfball

so if you could question the media and its stories, dont just accept that there is no way to combat the cancer, never give up

[Marty Champions]

cancer got there naturally its illogically that it can be removed unnaturally (via prescription drugs)

one must clean up there diet to naturally remove these diseases

but in order to go vegetarian that would require you to be a better person thus showing compassion for animals, no self loving red meat eating man can easily give that up.

[DK II]

cancer got there naturally its illogically that it can be removed unnaturally (via prescription drugs)

one must clean up there diet to naturally remove these diseases

but in order to go vegetarian that would require you to be a better person thus showing compassion for animals, no self loving red meat eating man can easily give that up.

Thanks god we have Johnny Falcon to figure out what 10000 of scientists are unable to do. 

[Swede!]

cancer got there naturally

Would you call our current lifestyle natural? 

[Stark]

Thanks god we have Johnny Falcon to figure out what 10000 of scientists are unable to do. 

Somebody give Johnny Falcon the viking price

[Marty Champions]

Would you call our current lifestyle natural? 

machine technology to gather crops is natural

however consuming pharmaceuticals is for the gambling type

[Swede!]

Brb, heating my food with radiation

[Agnostic007]

So we shouldn't have developed a polio vaccine, or chicken pox or small pox vaccine, since they are natural.. Impressive logic.

[Marty Champions]

Thanks god we have Johnny Falcon to figure out what 10000 of scientists are unable to do. 

there just may not be any other way to avoid cancer than polluting your body with meat.

you mean 10000 scientsts who just follow orders and document findings? well that shouldve led us to the solution by now?

cancer takes time to grow and progress, it is anaerobic for the most part (without oxygen) ... all the excess nitrogen and sulfur from meat eating take away from the present oxygen need to bathe the cells properly. the body loses oxygen with excess meat/nitrogen and sulfur wich creates a beautiful environment for cancer to grow

[Marty Champions]

So we shouldn't have developed a polio vaccine, or chicken pox or small pox vaccine, since they are natural.. Impressive logic.

like i said it was a "gamble" and it worked read post above. pharmaceuticals are a gamble

we have no sure fire way in terms of drugs beating cancer, the gamble is a certain loss with drugs in these cases

[Dr Dutch]

- Lymph cancer is not an inflammatory disease.
- There's no relation between removed tonsils and the incidence of lymph cancer
- Removing tonsils is becoming obsolete anyway, it doesn't diminish throat
  infections at all
- Vegetarians are usually healthier than meat eaters, but part of that is explained by
  other aspects in their livestyles.

(I'm a vegetarian myself, but not because of health but for ethical reasons)

Says Dr Dutch

[Marty Champions]

- Lymph cancer is not an inflammatory disease.
- There's no relation between removed tonsils and the incidence of lymph cancer
- Removing tonsils is becoming obsolete anyway, it doesn't diminish throat
  infections at all
- Vegetarians are usually healthier than met eaters, but part of that is explained by
  other aspects in their livestyles.

(I'm a vegetarian myself, but not because of health but for ethical reasons)

Says Dr Dutch

Warning Signs of Lymphoma

From Indranil Mallick, M.D., former About.com Guide

Updated December 02, 2010

About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by the Medical Review Board
See More About:

    lymphoma symptoms
    lymphoma diagnosis
    b-symptoms
    enlarged lymph nodes
    pel-ebstein fever

The warning signs of lymphoma are so subtle that it may take some time before you realize that there is anything seriously wrong. Here is a list of the common symptoms of lymphoma. Most of these symptoms can also indicate harmless conditions, so if you experience one or more, don't be alarmed! Consult your doctor for an accurate diagnosis.
Painless lumps in your neck, armpits or groin

This is the most common symptom and often the only one. These are enlarged lymph nodes. Most people first notice these lumps while bathing or changing, or they may be first felt by your partner. Enlarged nodes are not always a sign of lymphoma.



there ya go troll

[DK II]

- Lymph cancer is not an inflammatory disease.
- There's no relation between removed tonsils and the incidence of lymph cancer
- Removing tonsils is becoming obsolete anyway, it doesn't diminish throat
  infections at all
- Vegetarians are usually healthier than met eaters, but part of that is explained by
  other aspects in their livestyles.

(I'm a vegetarian myself, but not because of health but for ethical reasons)

Says Dr Dutch

Oh, i didn't know you were female!

[Marty Champions]

Warning Signs of Lymphoma

From Indranil Mallick, M.D., former About.com Guide

Updated December 02, 2010

About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by the Medical Review Board
See More About:

    lymphoma symptoms
    lymphoma diagnosis
    b-symptoms
    enlarged lymph nodes
    pel-ebstein fever

The warning signs of lymphoma are so subtle that it may take some time before you realize that there is anything seriously wrong. Here is a list of the common symptoms of lymphoma. Most of these symptoms can also indicate harmless conditions, so if you experience one or more, don't be alarmed! Consult your doctor for an accurate diagnosis.
Painless lumps in your neck, armpits or groin

This is the most common symptom and often the only one. These are enlarged lymph nodes. Most people first notice these lumps while bathing or changing, or they may be first felt by your partner. Enlarged nodes are not always a sign of lymphoma.



there ya go troll

fine no one beleive shit i say even if i speak the truth 

[Necrosis]

Warning Signs of Lymphoma

From Indranil Mallick, M.D., former About.com Guide

Updated December 02, 2010

About.com Health's Disease and Condition content is reviewed by the Medical Review Board
See More About:

    lymphoma symptoms
    lymphoma diagnosis
    b-symptoms
    enlarged lymph nodes
    pel-ebstein fever

The warning signs of lymphoma are so subtle that it may take some time before you realize that there is anything seriously wrong. Here is a list of the common symptoms of lymphoma. Most of these symptoms can also indicate harmless conditions, so if you experience one or more, don't be alarmed! Consult your doctor for an accurate diagnosis.
Painless lumps in your neck, armpits or groin

This is the most common symptom and often the only one. These are enlarged lymph nodes. Most people first notice these lumps while bathing or changing, or they may be first felt by your partner. Enlarged nodes are not always a sign of lymphoma.



there ya go troll

mono has painless lumps or lymphadanopathy, lymphoma is not a inflammatory disease by nature but has an inflammatory component. i know you are trolling but what is "natural" by definition? drugs are natural as they are made of natural things, if you mean occuring in nature then some pharms still fit the bill, look at statins, anti cholinergics, stimulants etc etc..

[Dr Dutch]

there ya go troll

I'm not a troll, I'm one of the few true vegetarians on this board..

[Dr Dutch]

Oh, i didn't know you were female!

Maybe I'm just not afraid of my feminine side....

[Dr.Ill]

Falcon,

Ever heard of round up?  Ever seen what this stuff does to plants?  What do farmers use on tobacco plants to remove the suckers?  So, someone breaks off the "sucker" and sprays round up down the plant to keep "suckers" from returning?  All the while this poisonous chemical is being absorbed by the plant and later inhaled by a human....sounds healthy, huh?

But lets go a step further, your food whether it be beef, chicken, pork, these animals are given chemicals by either ingestion or shots to help their growth, etc, again being absorbed by human consumption at a later time.

Genetics is said to be the cause of many cancers, like lymphoma, but Falcon has a point, (not saying I agree), the person that was chemically altered to begin with that cause this mutation in the DNA strand, that in turn leads to this life threatening disease in their offspring, was exposed to something.

Cancer is not biased on who it affects, sex, ethnicity, age it doesn't matter!  But notice it keeps affecting more and more people.  We are projected to see a 20% increase of cases over the next 5-8 years.

[Necrosis]

Falcon,

Ever heard of round up?  Ever seen what this stuff does to plants?  What do farmers use on tobacco plants to remove the suckers?  So, someone breaks off the "sucker" and sprays round up down the plant to keep "suckers" from returning?  All the while this poisonous chemical is being absorbed by the plant and later inhaled by a human....sounds healthy, huh?

But lets go a step further, your food whether it be beef, chicken, pork, these animals are given chemicals by either ingestion or shots to help their growth, etc, again being absorbed by human consumption at a later time.

Genetics is said to be the cause of many cancers, like lymphoma, but Falcon has a point, (not saying I agree), the person that was chemically altered to begin with that cause this mutation in the DNA strand, that in turn leads to this life threatening disease in their offspring, was exposed to something.

Cancer is not biased on who it affects, sex, ethnicity, age it doesn't matter!  But notice it keeps affecting more and more people.  We are projected to see a 20% increase of cases over the next 5-8 years.

you dont see stress and immune dysfunction as a major etiological factor? clearly our habits and lifestyles are having grave consequences. cancer is too complex to have a single cause, its multifactorial and some cancers like kaposi's sarcoma are related to things that have nothing to do with food or stress. Same with burkitts or HCC, the view being offered is to simplistic.

[Dr.Ill]

I do not believe nor has any test proven that stress has anything to do with cancer.  Can stress inhibit the ability to heal or in such cases repair, I agree, but not the cause.  We could go into a thousand different reasons that can cause cancer and has been proven, but what could cause cancer in me, may not you, and vice versa.  One of the best treatments of cancer is radiation, while on the other hand will induce cancer as well.  I wasn't meaning to sound cancers cause was simplistic, but in some scenarios, like the round up example, it is simplistic, you put something in your body that is poisonous and chances are the outcome will be bad.  It is that simplistic.

[ManBearPig...]

i'm noticing a major outbreak of vaginitis on this board lately.

[Marty Champions]

you dont see stress and immune dysfunction as a major etiological factor? clearly our habits and lifestyles are having grave consequences. cancer is too complex to have a single cause, its multifactorial and some cancers like kaposi's sarcoma are related to things that have nothing to do with food or stress. Same with burkitts or HCC, the view being offered is to simplistic.

no i dont beleive things like stress cause cancer but if you dont eat right and stay active stress could give you a heart attack
you cant even do a simple search on google for a straight answer there is a huge coverup... for instance take for example aids is mainly determend by a low t-cell count but you cant even search for other possible explanations on google for instance searching...."can you have low t cells and not have hiv or aids" you will not get a straight answer to this question

a low t-cell count means your immune system is compromised, however im currently trying to dig out information if infact you can have a low t-cell count and not have aids, this would be an indicater for false positives, such as people who do not eat right may show a false positive over time when they should just be taking care of themselves?!?

[Marty Champions]

why is google being so secretive to cover up pre 2006 information i remember reading about how eating meat lowers t cells/ white bloodcells

you cant find the straight answer if you type in "Does eating meat lower t cells and white bloodcells"

government and big pharma and big buisness "google" are all holding hands to fuck your health

[Marty Champions]

why is it the non meat eaters on the topic of vegetarianism resort to name calling and acting harshly as if they have been abused with epic knowledge?

[Harry Spotter]

I do not believe nor has any test proven that stress has anything to do with cancer.  Can stress inhibit the ability to heal or in such cases repair, I agree, but not the cause.  We could go into a thousand different reasons that can cause cancer and has been proven...

While there's no 'proof' as such, several studies lend support to the hypothesis that particular stress hormones can protect cancer cells from processes that would otherwise lead to cell death. So it's likely that stress is very important factor....

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/40802