Regarding "Euro"peans....

[Alex23]

A friend of mine from Germany is in town this week to iron out some SAP / Teradata alliance bullshit...

At lunch time, out of nowhere goes on a rant on how "great" life is in the US and how much he envies me. My answer was "well don't you have free healthcare, 6 weeks of vacation a year, free day care, backrubs, a government that doesn't make war in Iraq/Afghanistan, Markus Ruhl, swastikas and other free shit to perk up your bavarian ass?

His answer was: "yes, but it pales to compare to the way of life in the US, that sense of business freedom and entrepreneurship, that everything is possible with no limits..." (germanized)

 

Enlight me.

Thank you!

[WillGrant]

Pity you live in a fantasy world and none of the above happened eh 

[cephissus]

haha oh brother "everything is possible with no limits"

alright bud.

[Kulutues]

universal health care is not free retard...people with jobs pay taxes

[deadz]

Giving "FALLSVIEW" the night off FATALICE.

[sync pulse]

universal health care is not free retard...people with jobs pay taxes

Economy of scale,...If everyone is insured, and you are not excluded because of preexisting conditions or being able to only get a part time job,...it's a God send.

[Alex23]

Giving "FALLSVIEW" the night off FATALICE.

I own your little minds without even posting.... pathetic... yet I've missed this place the last few months, but just not the same... time to clean it up though, on the works with Ron on a little revamp.. more soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lumberjack88]

The USA is better for entrepreneurs and business people... I'm not so sure if it's better for the common people... A professor, a very rich one at that, once told me that everybody, who's in it for the money, should go to Wall Street. Nobody can mess with Wall Street... Eliot Spitzer tried to be the WS sheriff... but they fucked him.. cause he was getting too close... and his hooker affairs were just what they needed to take him down...

The economic elite in America has bought up the american government, so that they can pass irrational, extremely business and investor-friendly laws, that would be impossible to pass in Europe (for now). That's the big advantage of America... in America, you can be a financial terrorist... in Europe, too, but not in those dimensions.

[Alex23]

The USA is better for entrepreneurs and business people... I'm not so sure if it's better for the common people... A professor, a very rich one at that, once told me that everybody, who's in it for the money, should go to Wall Street. Nobody can mess with Wall Street... Eliot Spitzer tried to be the WS sheriff... but they fucked him.. cause he was getting too close... and his hooker affairs were just what they needed to take him down...

The economic elite in America has bought up the american government, so that they can pass irrational, extremely business and investor-friendly laws, that would be impossible to pass in Europe (for now). That's the big advantage of America... in America, you can be a financial terrorist... in Europe, too, but not in those dimensions.

Awesome post Lumberjack88.

[Kulutues]

you dont know shit, you can't "buy" government unless government itself enables it.  The federal government are America's biggest terrorists, against its own citizenry, against its businesses, against everything it does.  As the federal government continues to grow, you all have less freedom, and the USA of old becomes more like every other shitty socialist country everyone fled from to come here in the first place

but this is to be expected, any country with as much freedom as US had to turn shitty eventually...once all the coloreds and misfits realize they can go there and abuse that freedom and be a parasite, it was the beginning of the end of good USA

[Lumberjack88]

you dont know shit, you can't "buy" government unless government itself enables it.  The federal government are America's biggest terrorists, against its own citizenry, against its businesses, against everything it does.  As the federal government continues to grow, you all have less freedom, and the USA of old becomes more like every other shitty socialist country everyone fled from to come here in the first place

You can't buy it? Why not? Have you heard of lobbying? They do it all the time!

If there was no lobbying, would the government be equally corrupt?

What you see in america... is not socialism... it's capitalism at max! Those who are rich, will become even richer, and they don't have to give much, if anything, back... in socialism.. it wouldn't work that way... you wouldn't have a plutocracy if real socialism was applied. I'm not defending socialism, I think regulated capitalism is the best way to go. Once you take the regulations away... it's not much different than dog eat dog.

[quadzilla456]

The USA is better for entrepreneurs and business people... I'm not so sure if it's better for the common people... A professor, a very rich one at that, once told me that everybody, who's in it for the money, should go to Wall Street. Nobody can mess with Wall Street... Eliot Spitzer tried to be the WS sheriff... but they fucked him.. cause he was getting too close... and his hooker affairs were just what they needed to take him down...

The economic elite in America has bought up the american government, so that they can pass irrational, extremely business and investor-friendly laws, that would be impossible to pass in Europe (for now). That's the big advantage of America... in America, you can be a financial terrorist... in Europe, too, but not in those dimensions.

Good post. Another man that went against the establishment was JFK. And we all know what happened to him.

[Kulutues]

The one thing though that's a little odd...is why all of the Eurotrash and Arabs and Mexicanos etc wonder why the U.S. is getting worse nowadays.  Lol?  Maybe because so many of you made it worse when you came here and tried the same socialist shit that ruined your own countries?  You know, the reason you came here in the first place?

Same thing with our Mexicans...you swam peril waters and risked your life to cross the border and leave Mexico...so why make your new country like the shitty Mexican one you just ran from?  Lol...the US glory years were 1776-1993.  After 1993 is not the US anymore, it's United States of Mexicoeuroworldoutcast

[Kulutues]

You can't buy it? Why not? Have you heard of lobbying? They do it all the time!

If there was no lobbying, would the government be equally corrupt?

What you see in america... is not socialism... it's capitalism at max! Those who are rich, will become even richer, and they don't have to give much, if anything, back... in socialism.. it wouldn't work that way... you wouldn't have a plutocracy if real socialism was applied. I'm not defending socialism, I think regulated capitalism is the best way to go. Once you take the regulations away... it's not much different than dog eat dog.

We haven't had capitalism in the US for a very, very long time, too much government interference at every level.  I wish we did still have capitalism, not anymore

[quadzilla456]

once all the coloreds and misfits realize they can go there and abuse that freedom and be a parasite, it was the beginning of the end of good USA

This is true. The one thing you're not saying though and maybe you know this already: The coloreds and misfits were allowed into the good ole USA after 1965 in much greater numbers after the countries immigration policies were changed. Prior to this change these muds would never have made it across the Atlantic.

And then of course we all know the Governments approach to illegal immigration. They want it. Can you freaking believe they are even getting away with this shit??

[freespirit]

In before berzerkfury makes a comment about "eurotraaaaaaaassssshhhhh" from his moms basement.

 

[Kulutues]

This is true. The one thing you're not saying though and maybe you know this already: The coloreds and misfits were allowed into the good ole USA after 1965 in much greater numbers after the countries immigration policies were changed. Prior to this change these muds would never have made it across the Atlantic.

And then of course we all know the Governments approach to illegal immigration. They want it. Can you freaking believe they are even getting away with this shit??

Many great scientists and doctors of German/Indian/Asian descent have come to America and lived very good lives and helped people around them greatly, that is good and it's a beautiful thing when that happens...but this isn't what we have now.  The US now is treated like a party house for lots of little nobodys and nobody should be surprised that this party house is being torn apart and foundations crumbling.

[Nails]

I've been to Europe, the whole time out there I never had a rant that I wanted to stay there longer then my booked vacation, as a matter of fact I couldn't wait to come back home to the states

[mass243]

Hahahahah, some people still think America is like it used to be back in the 60's or 70's 

[Alex23]

Many great scientists and doctors of German/Indian/Asian descent have come to America and lived very good lives and helped people around them greatly, that is good and it's a beautiful thing when that happens...but this isn't what we have now.  The US now is treated like a party house for lots of little nobodys and nobody should be surprised that this party house is being torn apart and foundations crumbling.

Great post.

[Parker]

Good post. Another man that went against the establishment was JFK. And we all know what happened to him.

It wasn't the establishment...it was the mafia...whom his father had asked for a favor...as soon as the brothers went after them...bang, bang, you're dead.

Many great scientists and doctors of German/Indian/Asian descent have come to America and lived very good lives and helped people around them greatly, that is good and it's a beautiful thing when that happens...but this isn't what we have now.  The US now is treated like a party house for lots of little nobodys and nobody should be surprised that this party house is being torn apart and foundations crumbling.

Exactly

[BIG ACH]

Alex, I've been all over Europe:  all across the UK and lived in London for a few years, Paris, Cannes, Nice, St. Tropez, Milan, Madrid, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Geneve...


And as nice as all those places are... I believe the US is and will always be the greatest country in the world!  And I'm not even originally from here, maybe thats why I appreciate it so much!

[Emmortal]

You can't buy it? Why not? Have you heard of lobbying? They do it all the time!

If there was no lobbying, would the government be equally corrupt?

What you see in america... is not socialism... it's capitalism at max! Those who are rich, will become even richer, and they don't have to give much, if anything, back... in socialism.. it wouldn't work that way... you wouldn't have a plutocracy if real socialism was applied. I'm not defending socialism, I think regulated capitalism is the best way to go. Once you take the regulations away... it's not much different than dog eat dog.

You almost had it until you blamed capitlism, which isn't the issue.  We've had a mixed market in the US for 50 some odd years, pure capitlism hasn't existed in the US since the 1950's.  What we have now is a mixture of corporatism (lobbying for advantageous legislation and subsidies) and socialism (bank and car industry bail outs).  Wall Street has turned the stock exchange into their own bankroll through the derivitives market, HFT and the ponzi scheme that is fractional reserve banking.

In a capatlist market you wouldn't see the majority of that and the rest could be handled through some regulation.

[Emmortal]

And as nice as all those places are... I believe the US is and will always be the greatest country in the world!  And I'm not even originally from here, maybe thats why I appreciate it so much!

I've lived outside the US for nearly a year, traveled a fair amount, and I agree with this 100%.  However, we have some MAJOR problems with government that will certainly put the above assesment into dire jeapordy.

[quadzilla456]

It wasn't the establishment...it was the mafia...whom his father had asked for a favor...as soon as the brothers went after them...bang, bang, you're dead.Exactly

HAHA, yeah, sure it was the mafia. I don't believe that for a second. Jack Rubenstein (Ruby) assassinated Oswald so they would not implicate "us".

In March, 1992, Illinois Representative Paul Findley said in The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, "It is interesting - but not surprising - to note that in all the words written and uttered about the Kennedy assassination, Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, has never been mentioned."

Considering that the Mossad is quite possibly the most ruthless and efficient intelligence agency in the world, it is peculiar that they have never been scrutinized in relation to the Kennedy assassination, especially when practically every other entity in the world (short of Elvis impersonators) has been implicated. But that all changed in January, 1994 with the release of Michael Collins Piper's Final Judgment. In this book, Piper says, "Israel's Mossad was a primary (and critical) behind the scenes player in the conspiracy that ended the life of JFK. Through its own vast resources and through its international contacts in the intelligence community and in organized crime, Israel had the means, it had the opportunity, and it had the motive to play a major frontline role in the crime of the century - and it did."

Their motive? Israel's much touted Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion, who ruled that country from its inception in 1948 until he resigned on June 16, 1963, was so enraged at John F. Kennedy for not allowing Israel to become a nuclear power that, Collins asserts, in his final days in office he commanded the Mossad to become involved in a plot to kill America's president.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/mossadandtheassassination.htm