I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul

[Hugo Chavez]

First he said he would pick Dahmer over Obama but now that Paul is seen as a viable candidate by Dem supporters he is trying to sabatoge the whole thing by poo pooing it. Youd think he'd be doing jumoing jacks of joy but he's worried what they might think about a Paul presidency 4 years from now. What, does he think that they would be happy with any other Repub candidate?  

3333 will absolutely not answer that question, but he is happy to repeat what he's already said a zillion times for you

[Soul Crusher]

First he said he would pick Dahmer over Obama but now that Paul is seen as a viable candidate by Dem supporters he is trying to sabatoge the whole thing by poo pooing it. Youd think he'd be doing jumoing jacks of joy but he's worried what they might think about a Paul presidency 4 years from now. What, does he think that they would be happy with any other Repub candidate?  

Progressives are at best 5% of the voting public - they are all bark and no bite. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Progressives are at best 5% of the voting public - they are all bark and no bite. 

Here, suck a big fat fact rod you homo

America Is Evenly Divided Between Progressives/Liberals And Conservatives/Libertarians
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/03/11/36713/halpin-teixeria-progressive-study/

[Soul Crusher]

Here, suck a big fat fact rod you homo

America Is Evenly Divided Between Progressives/Liberals And Conservatives/Libertarians
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/03/11/36713/halpin-teixeria-progressive-study/

LMFAO! ! ! ! !

Are you kidding?   Gallup has the definitive work on this.   

[The True Adonis]

LMFAO! ! ! ! !

Are you kidding?   Gallup has the definitive work on this.   

What do you think is going to happen to these Paultards when he announces that his Campaign is over?

[Deicide]

What do you think is going to happen to these Paultards when he announces that his Campaign is over?

It's funny that you oppose what would be best for the country now, just to be a dick. Good on you.

[The True Adonis]

It's funny that you oppose what would be best for the country now, just to be a dick. Good on you.

I think he would be the WORST of the candidates as he has no broad based support in Congress for any of his nonsense which means NOTHING would ever get done.  Then there is the specter of being "Dr. No", vetoing everything he does not agree with which further puts us into a quagmire.

Finally, what he proposes is virtually impossible or just plain idiotic such as getting rid of the FDA, EPA and FEMA, CIA etc...

I`d rather have Bachmann any day over Paul.  At least she knows the value of compromise better than Paul.  I will take Compromise over Gridlock any day of the week.

[Soul Crusher]

What do you think is going to happen to these Paultards when he announces that his Campaign is over?

Either stay home or mount a write in campaign of some sort.  

The progressives need to mount a primary challenge from the left and start running better candidates if they want to build a movement, not latch on to a GOP candidate in the sunset of his career who so far has no path to victory in the GOP primary.  

And I blame Paul too for this.  His campaigning is beyond incomprehensible.  How does he think he can get over the finish line in a GOP primary by attacking other repubs endlessly and never attacking obama's policies straight on?  

I just don't know what he thinks he is accomplishing by doing this?  It didnt work last time, and wont work now.  

If he wants to move ahead he needs to attack obama head on and simply point out the massive failures of the last three years, not ramble on endlessly about topics more suited for a coffee meeting where one has hours on end to discuss these things.   I know its not his style, but what he is doing is not working one bit to move into the top tier of this and have a chance at winning.

What many of his most ardent supporters forget is that you have to win an election first to implement policies.  What is is doing is not going to work with the overall voting public.   Its nothing against him personally, juist the reality of the typical voter .    

  

[Deicide]

I think he would be the WORST of the candidates as he has no broad based support in Congress for any of his nonsense which means NOTHING would ever get done.  Then there is the specter of being "Dr. No", vetoing everything he does not agree with which further puts us into a quagmire.

Finally, what he proposes is virtually impossible or just plain idiotic such as getting rid of the FDA, EPA and FEMA, CIA etc...

I`d rather have Bachmann any day over Paul.  At least she knows the value of compromise better than Paul.  I will take Compromise over Gridlock any day of the week.

Wow, you just outed yourself...

[The True Adonis]

Either stay home or mount a write in campaign of some sort.  

The progressives need to mount a primary challenge from the left and start running better candidates if they want to build a movement, not latch on to a GOP candidate in the sunset of his career who so far has no path to victory in the GOP primary.  

And I blame Paul too for this.  His campaigning is beyond incomprehensible.  How does he think he can get over the finish line in a GOP primary by attacking other repubs endlessly and never attacking obama's policies straight on?  

I just don't know what he thinks he is accomplishing by doing this?  It didnt work last time, and wont work now.  

If he wants to move ahead he needs to attack obama head on and simply point out the massive failures of the last three years, not ramble on endlessly about topics more suited for a coffee meeting where one has hours on end to discuss these things.   I know its not his style, but what he is doing is not working one bit to move into the top tier of this and have a chance at winning.

What many of his most ardent supporters forget is that you have to win an election first to implement policies.  What is is doing is not going to work with the overall voting public.   Its nothing against him personally, juist the reality of the typical voter .    

  

His supporters don`t know how congress functions either.  Ron Paul would be the weakest President in the History of the United States.  An incapable "do-nothing" of disastrous proportions.

[The True Adonis]

Wow, you just outed yourself...

Sorry, my opinion of Bachmann is rather low, but my opinion of Paul is even lower.  I could for-see Poop Paul the only President to be impeached due to inability to do anything.

[Hugo Chavez]

 

I have to take a break before I go nuts at the pure bullshit being spewed.

[Soul Crusher]

I have to take a break before I go nuts at the pure bullshit being spewed.

Good, go take a break and come back and explain to me exactly how Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination by the numbers and states and primary calender. 

I dont want pie in the sky crap, I want realistic scenario, especially in closed primaries not open to anyone but repubs. 

[The True Adonis]

I`m also not willing to put the Worlds Greatest Military in the hands of someone who would let the whole Middle East run wild without any consequence.

One thing Obama has done and has done VERY well is foreign Policy, especially when it comes to the Middle East.  Obama is a very intelligent man and knows the classified briefings that crosses his desk are nothing to balk at or ignore and must be acted upon.

[loco]

Ron Paul's tha man!  I'd vote for him.   

[Hugo Chavez]

I`m also not willing to put the Worlds Greatest Military in the hands of someone who would let the whole Middle East run wild without any consequence.

One thing Obama has done and has done VERY well is foreign Policy, especially when it comes to the Middle East.  Obama is a very intelligent man and knows the classified briefings that crosses his desk are nothing to balk at or ignore and must be acted upon.

who knew, a neocon liberal...  it's just gets funnier all the time with you....

[Hugo Chavez]

Good, go take a break and come back and explain to me exactly how Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination by the numbers and states and primary calender.  

I dont want pie in the sky crap, I want realistic scenario, especially in closed primaries not open to anyone but repubs.  

I'll take demands from you to answer a question the day you start actually reading and responding to points I make in replies.  I won't hold my breath that will happen anytime soon.  essentially you blitz threads like this saying the same thing over and over, hey, you don't need a reply from me to do that

[Bindare_Dundat]

Good, go take a break and come back and explain to me exactly how Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination by the numbers and states and primary calender. 

I dont want pie in the sky crap, I want realistic scenario, especially in closed primaries not open to anyone but repubs. 

At the core most know what he stands for, either you believe in it or not. If you do just shut up and vote for the guy.

[The True Adonis]

At the core most know what he stands for, either you believe in it or not. If you do just shut up and vote for the guy.

What his plan to keep Iran from getting a Nuclear Weapon?

[Hugo Chavez]

What his plan to keep Iran from getting a Nuclear Weapon?

LOL what's Obama's plan?  The plan handed to bush was to go in, bomb them back to the stone age and get back out and he turned that down.  What do you want the plan to be?  At least Ron Paul wants to have serious talks with them.  Nobody else seems to be willing to go that far with the exception of what Obama said he would do running for office but hasn't done.  Of course there is hillary the hawk who probably wants to go with the plan handed to Bush.

[The True Adonis]

LOL what's Obama's plan?  The plan handed to bush was to go in, bomb them back to the stone age and get back out and he turned that down.  What do you want the plan to be?  At least Ron Paul wants to have serious talks with them.  Nobody else seems to be willing to go that far with the exception of what Obama said he would do running for office but hasn't done.  Of course there is hillary the hawk who probably wants to go with the plan handed to Bush.

Where can I get a copy of that plan?  Thanks.

[Hugo Chavez]

Where can I get a copy of that plan?  Thanks.

Why don't you first start by answering the questions in my post.  man you and 3333 are two of a kind.

[Fury]

I like Ron Paul and agree with probably 90% of what he believes, but geez - some of the fawning over him is the same thing that disturbed me over the cult like status Obama got heaped on him in 2008, only for the predictable downfall.  He is one man, and when you put all your faith in one guy, its destined to fail.  His "campaign for liberty" was and is really good and its based on ideas, not him personally.      

Ron Paul would be no different for these people who then would claim they were misled, dissapointed, etc.  The "progressives" need to reform the demo party based on ideas and principles, not bouncing around from individual candidates after suffering dissapointments.  

Why can't credible left wingers take back their party for Gods' sake?  Seriously - why are they so afraid of primarying Obama after what we have seen the last 3 years?  

  

Paul fans froth at the mouth anytime he's mentioned just like Obama drones. Really not much different between the two groups. Hell, just last week Hugo was basically lusting after the dude in the bike thread. It really reeked of Obama drones circa 2008 when I read that.

They're incapable of criticizing the guy when he's far from the perfect candidate. Don't get me wrong, he's by far the best choice available. Is he perfect, though? No. Is he better than Obama? Yes.

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL, I'm not capable of being critical of Paul?  Why on earth is 3333 so happy to bump that thread where I disagree on Paul over regulations then?  LOL, I lust for him   Maybe I'm just trying to make a case for who I think is the best guy to be president, you know, the normal thing people are expected to do during a presidential primary...

I don't worship the guy.

Look at those videos of people crying over the savior Obama...  That's cult like.

can you find anything remotely close to this with Paul supporters:

[Fury]

Haha, never seen those videos. Creepy stuff. Reminds me of those Eurotrash countries that have "political camps" like the one that Norwegian shot up.