the general public is really very clueless. a year ago i thought people like kiyoshi moody were natural, but amongst non-weightlifters it's unreal. I remember one of my friends telling me that with the "advances in nutrition and weight training" it should be "at least possible to look like arnold naturally these days" as if this were some humble estimate... lol.
A couple months ago I was talking to another old friend from highschool, "but like, arnold didn't do drugs, did he?"
"Michael phelps eats 10,000 calories a day... I mean he is swimming 5 hours a day, that takes a lot of energy!"
