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Salt Good or Bad? True Adonis, need your input in here!
« on: September 16, 2011, 06:29:22 AM »
I'm at a restaurant, and I ask for the salt shaker to salt me food.  By everyone's reaction you would have thought it was full of cyanide.  

WTF?

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Re: Salt Good or Bad?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 06:37:16 AM »
Its good...

If someone is higly active...for example workouts, he needs salt (sodium)...

Now, if youre a coach potato, avoid it..maybe this is why those people "freaked out"..same people who eat at mc donalds...with a "diet" coke.

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 07:00:12 AM »
If your blood pressure is not sensitive to sodium, it's alright...

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Re: Salt Good or Bad?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 07:01:33 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 07:10:38 AM »
Good post!

My BP certainly isn't sensitive to salt, as I just went to the doctor for an ear infection after eating a salty, salty breakfast, and my BP was perfect.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2011, 07:25:10 AM »
Adding salt to you food is bad.  All the salt your body needs can be obtained from a balanced diet.  The desire for salt on your food is a learned taste.  You can train yourself to reduce your desire for it and eliminate it altogether.  I read a story about that when I was in secondary school . . . I tried it and proved it to be true.  I have not wanted to add salt to my food ever since.

A couple days ago at a restaurant I saw a very fat woman at a table next to me receive food from a waiter.  Before he even put the plate down in front of her she was reaching for the salt shaker.  I watched her shake out 20-30 shakes onto the plate and this was before she even tasted one bite!  Seeing that made me want to vomit.  Clearly, it was a habit of hers and she probably does the same thing at home.  Is that the direction you want to head in?  Again, you can train yourself to go without salt very easily.

We have a combined salt and pepper shaker in the kitchen.  The pepper part is used periodically while cooking, but the salt portion has never been used.  I recoil when I go to a party and find heavily salted snack treats like chips.  Lightly salted cashews or peanuts is all I can stand and even that has to be in small doses.

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 07:27:25 AM »
Adding salt to you food is bad.  All the salt your body needs can be obtained from a balanced diet.  The desire for salt on your food is a learned taste.  You can train yourself to reduce your desire for it and eliminate it altogether.  I read a story about that when I was in secondary school . . . I tried it and proved it to be true.  I have not wanted to add salt to my food ever since.

A couple days ago at a restaurant I saw a very fat woman at a table next to me receive food from a waiter.  Before he even put the plate down in front of her she was reaching for the salt shaker.  I watched her shake out 20-30 shakes onto the plate and this was before she even tasted one bite!  Seeing that made me want to vomit.  Clearly, it was a habit of hers and she probably does the same thing at home.  Is that the direction you want to head in?  Again, you can train yourself to go without salt very easily.

We have a combined salt and pepper shaker in the kitchen.  The pepper part is used periodically while cooking, but the salt portion has never been used.  I recoil when I go to a party and find heavily salted snack treats like chips.  Lightly salted cashews or peanuts is all I can stand and even that has to be in small doses.

Appreciate this info!


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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2011, 07:44:18 AM »
Doesn't salt cause you to retain water, I don't add salt to anything these days.

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Re: Salt Good or Bad? True Adonis, need your input in here!
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 08:01:34 AM »
salty load

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2011, 08:11:22 AM »
Plenty of sodium in natural foods, especially fish so don't add ..

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2011, 08:20:20 AM »
i think the average daily salt intake for men in western countries is 6-8g...the recommendation is around 4-5g but studies have shown 2-3g being enough, depending on your diet, amount of exercise, temperature etc...i think there also was a study examining one small tribe somewhere near indonesia who didn't use salt at all...there average bp was 60/90 and they were significantly healthier compared both with people in western sociaties but also other nearby tribes who used salt in their daily diet

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2011, 08:21:02 AM »
Adding salt to you food is bad.  All the salt your body needs can be obtained from a balanced diet.  The desire for salt on your food is a learned taste.  You can train yourself to reduce your desire for it and eliminate it altogether.  I read a story about that when I was in secondary school . . . I tried it and proved it to be true.  I have not wanted to add salt to my food ever since.

A couple days ago at a restaurant I saw a very fat woman at a table next to me receive food from a waiter.  Before he even put the plate down in front of her she was reaching for the salt shaker.  I watched her shake out 20-30 shakes onto the plate and this was before she even tasted one bite!  Seeing that made me want to vomit.  Clearly, it was a habit of hers and she probably does the same thing at home.  Is that the direction you want to head in?  Again, you can train yourself to go without salt very easily.

We have a combined salt and pepper shaker in the kitchen.  The pepper part is used periodically while cooking, but the salt portion has never been used.  I recoil when I go to a party and find heavily salted snack treats like chips.  Lightly salted cashews or peanuts is all I can stand and even that has to be in small doses.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2011, 10:07:30 AM »
Does my frequent use of the sauna change this at all?  I hit the sauna at least three times a week and absolutely pour sweat.

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2011, 10:27:31 AM »
Does my frequent use of the sauna change this at all?  I hit the sauna at least three times a week and absolutely pour sweat.

You don't need extra salt on your food.  AFter you stop for awhile (maybe a couple weeks) you likely won't want it again.  Fresh cracked pepper is good tho :)

I think using the sauna won't negate the negative aspects of all that added sodium imo other than the dissipation of the bloat.

You may also have gotten a strange look at the restaurant if it has good food...asking for salt for good food could sometimes be seen as equivalent to asking for A-1 Sauce to use on a Prime Steak.
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 11:11:35 AM »
You don't need extra salt on your food.  AFter you stop for awhile (maybe a couple weeks) you likely won't want it again.  Fresh cracked pepper is good tho :)

I think using the sauna won't negate the negative aspects of all that added sodium imo other than the dissipation of the bloat.

You may also have gotten a strange look at the restaurant if it has good food...asking for salt for good food could sometimes be seen as equivalent to asking for A-1 Sauce to use on a Prime Steak.

Not as bad as pouring Ketchup all over that prime steak though!  ;D

Thanks for the info!  I'm going to cut the salt and I'll let you guys know how it goes. 

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Re: Salt Good or Bad?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 11:23:34 AM »
Adding salt to you food is bad.  All the salt your body needs can be obtained from a balanced diet.  The desire for salt on your food is a learned taste.  You can train yourself to reduce your desire for it and eliminate it altogether.  I read a story about that when I was in secondary school . . . I tried it and proved it to be true.  I have not wanted to add salt to my food ever since.

A couple days ago at a restaurant I saw a very fat woman at a table next to me receive food from a waiter.  Before he even put the plate down in front of her she was reaching for the salt shaker.  I watched her shake out 20-30 shakes onto the plate and this was before she even tasted one bite!  Seeing that made me want to vomit.  Clearly, it was a habit of hers and she probably does the same thing at home.  Is that the direction you want to head in?  Again, you can train yourself to go without salt very easily.

We have a combined salt and pepper shaker in the kitchen.  The pepper part is used periodically while cooking, but the salt portion has never been used.  I recoil when I go to a party and find heavily salted snack treats like chips.  Lightly salted cashews or peanuts is all I can stand and even that has to be in small doses.

Very good answer- adding salt is an acquired thing as the body has no natural ability to crave salt. You actually can not crave salt thus we humans have developed very efficient mechanisms to self regulate salt balance.

You need at minimum 500mgs per day and should never go over 5000mg's per day hardly ever. Maybe once a month to top off, after that you may start seeing health problems.

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Re: Salt Good or Bad? True Adonis, need your input in here!
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2011, 11:48:31 AM »
added salt just like added sugar is to be avoided. keep it natural baby  8)

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2011, 11:49:34 AM »


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Re: Salt Good or Bad?
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2011, 11:57:45 AM »

 coach potato

I see what you did there.

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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2011, 11:59:42 AM »
it's an essential nutrient to sustain life.

how is it anything?

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2011, 02:22:43 PM »
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that's those HIGH eyes gh15 talks about.

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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2011, 02:24:35 PM »
Very good answer- adding salt is an acquired thing as the body has no natural ability to crave salt. You actually can not crave salt thus we humans have developed very efficient mechanisms to self regulate salt balance.

You need at minimum 500mgs per day and should never go over 5000mg's per day hardly ever. Maybe once a month to top off, after that you may start seeing health problems.

when you're on roids and stims and all that shit, training 6 times a day, you need more than what the regular person needs.  bodybuilders are sports cars, we're not no goddamn honda civics

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Re: Salt Good or Bad?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2011, 06:05:02 PM »
Very good answer- adding salt is an acquired thing as the body has no natural ability to crave salt. You actually can not crave salt thus we humans have developed very efficient mechanisms to self regulate salt balance.

You need at minimum 500mgs per day and should never go over 5000mg's per day hardly ever. Maybe once a month to top off, after that you may start seeing health problems.
::)  Why did you just make this up out of thin air?  Its wrong.   ???  ???


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090310152329.htm

Evolution might have played an important part in the human hankering for salt. Humans evolved from creatures that lived in salty ocean water. Once on land, the body continued to need sodium and chloride because minerals play key roles in allowing fluids to pass in and out of cells, and in helping nerve cells transfer information throughout the brain and body. But as man evolved in the hot climate of Africa, perspiration robbed the body of sodium. Salt was scarce because our early ancestors ate a veggie-rich diet and lived far from the ocean.

"Most of our biological systems require sodium to function properly, but as a species that didn't have ready access to it, our kidneys evolved to become salt misers," Johnson said.

Behavior also came to play a key role in making sure we have enough salt on board. Animals like us come equipped with a taste system designed to detect salt and a brain that remembers the location of salt sources -- like salt licks in a pasture. A pleasure mechanism in the brain is activated when salt is consumed.

So the body needs salt and knows how to find it and how to conserve it.

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Re: Salt Good or Bad? True Adonis, need your input in here!
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2011, 06:11:41 PM »
I'm at a restaurant, and I ask for the salt shaker to salt me food.  By everyone's reaction you would have thought it was full of cyanide.  

WTF?

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Salt has too many uses other than taste, especially in cooking applications.  With that said, salt is VERY good and feel free to add as much as you want.  To combat any water retention, just keep constantly drinking water and other fluids daily.  Layne Norton wrote a really good article that addresses this.  Salt intake is irrelevant when drinking enough fluids.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne-norton-peak-week-water-sodium.html


Salt is the latest demon people want to fear.  Disregard these morons because they will just move on to some other devil pretty soon.