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What does "foundation" mean?
« on: September 17, 2011, 03:28:22 PM »
Can we get a clear definition on this term, once and for all?

How about the distinction between "real muscle" and "fake muscle" too?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 03:31:47 PM »
Foundation or "base" is lifting without the use of anabolic/androgenic steroids, gh, slin or any other illegal PEDs.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 03:33:32 PM »
So, the muscle you can gain as a natural?  Which as we all know, is not much?

So why is this always mentioned?  What's the big deal?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 03:34:02 PM »
Foundation is generally applied to the face before a woman slathers on the make up.
When using that term in bodybuilding, it's all relative isn't it.
How anyone who uses drugs to enhance their body can say one drug is realer than the other, is beyond me.
When they stop using, they all eventually drop down to their true body weight. So, again, what foundation??

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 03:36:12 PM »
It's like "muscle maturity." Means nothing.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 04:05:49 PM »
Foundation is emperor gh15's new clothes, which only his pupils can see.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 04:18:29 PM »
It's like "muscle maturity." Means nothing.
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People like to pretend that this natural base is what keeps expro's from looking like shit, reality is after years of abuse your left with the natural test levels of a 5 year old girl.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 06:22:44 PM »
reaching your best on all bodyparts lifting naturally for at least 5 years i guess?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 01:37:30 AM »
Something Levrone did not have.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 06:16:38 AM »
Can we get a clear definition on this term, once and for all?

How about the distinction between "real muscle" and "fake muscle" too?

 ???

Your on a bodybuilding forum and you ask a silly question like that? Spend a few more years in the gym then ask what it means.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 06:26:14 AM »
Foundation or "base" is lifting without the use of anabolic/androgenic steroids, gh, slin or any other illegal PEDs.



NO !

what kind of pupil are you? ? ?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 06:27:47 AM »
NO! what kind of pupil are you? ?
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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 06:28:06 AM »
NO !

what kind of pupil are you? ? ?



hahahaha what kind of ' teacher ' are you?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 06:28:20 AM »
Foundation is emperor gh15's new clothes, which only his pupils can see.

NO! ,, what kind of pupil are you??
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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2011, 06:29:28 AM »
oh i will explain to all of you right now,, after im done with the no what kind of  yada yada balonie...

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2011, 06:35:47 AM »
ok ,,

THIS IS IMPORTANT I WROTE IN BIBLE THIS FEW TIMES ,,

foundation is

the time you had in the gymnasium TRAINING with ANABOLIC STEROIDS IN YOUR BLOOD.... IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL TRAINNIG NATURAL ,, TRAINING NATURAL IS PART OF HAVING FOUNDATION ...BUT THE FOUNDATION THAT I TALK ABOUT IS TRAINING + ANABOLIC STEROIDS! ....

WHEN I SAY SOMEONE DOESNT HAVE FOUNDATION IT MEAN THEY JUMPED TOOOOOOOOOOOO FAST ON THE HGH AND INSULINA AND WENT INTO MEGADOSE LAND BEFOREEEE DEVELOPING ENOUGH MUSCLE DENSITY.... DENNNNNNNNNNNNNSITY ....AND ENOUGH MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL....AGAIN! IT IS NOT THE DIAMETER OF MUSCLE IT IS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE MUSCLE THAT PROJECT STRENGTH AND CREATE A BASE ON WHICH ...YES I JUST SAID ON WHICH...ON WHICH YOU CAN BUILD THE RON COLMANS AND THE DORIAN YATES...

PHILSULINA HAD HAPPY DAY YESTERDAY HE IS YOUR BODYBUILD CHAMP MR O BUT HE LACK THE FOUNDATION ,, IM NOT A MEAN PERSON I DONT HATE HIM ,, HE KNOWS I DONT HATE HIM ...I SAID HE WOULD WIN ,, LONG BEFORE HE WON I SAID HE WOULD WIN ,, BUT! HE JUST DOESNT HAVE THE FOUNDATION MY FRIENDS,, SORRY

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 11:00:25 AM »
Can we get a clear definition on this term, once and for all?

How about the distinction between "real muscle" and "fake muscle" too?

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  It means nothing. It is just a babble from the queen of trolls, GH15.

  You could say, however, that even among drug-using bodybuilders, those who did compound movements with dumbbells and barbells for many years have a muscle thickness that machine-training bodybuilders lack, especially in their quads, pecs and back.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2011, 08:11:30 PM »
  It means nothing. It is just a babble from the queen of trolls, GH15.

  You could say, however, that even among drug-using bodybuilders, those who did compound movements with dumbbells and barbells for many years have a muscle thickness that machine-training bodybuilders lack, especially in their quads, pecs and back.

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Muscle the comes out at you and has the 'bang' effect when you look at it compared to just bloated soft crap hanging off your bones and looking unimpressive in clothes. Heaths shoulders are no wider than the average joes he stands beside in pictures. The guy can't even be considered huge especially when comparing him to past Olympia competitors and winners.

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2011, 08:13:41 PM »
lol he is not huge with out clothes either,, he is blown up ...big diff between being huge and blown up,, 2 diff things,, the blown up can only come after you already big,, then it works,,

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2011, 08:19:05 PM »
foundation means first you get as big as possible with roids


then you max out with gh added

and only then insulina


virgin muscle is when you immediatly jump on truck loads of all of them


RIGHT?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2011, 08:21:30 PM »
To me building a foundation means training for several years doing the basic compound exercises which build strength and muscle....barbell squats, deadlifts, bench press etc.  And training HARD and HEAVY, using very little machine excercises.  I don't think it's got anything to do with aas.  So many people try to skip building the foundation these days...they just have no idea how important it is.  

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2011, 08:22:48 PM »
foundation means first you get as big as possible with roids


then you max out with gh added

and only then insulina


virgin muscle is when you immediatly jump on truck loads of all of them


RIGHT?

yes,,and philsulina is virgin muscle that is MAXED!,, this is big problem for bodybuilding,, it became ONLY DRUG AND DRUG RESPONSE as of yesterday,,in other words,, before you even go in a gymnasium ...make sure you got your source and he is good source and legit and have good products....because with out that source you will be N O T H I N G

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2011, 08:24:38 PM »
To me building a foundation means training for several years doing the basic compound exercises which build strength and muscle....barbell squats, deadlifts, bench press etc.  And training HARD and HEAVY, using very little machine excercises.  I don't think it's got anything to do with aas.  So many people try to skip building the foundation these days...they just have no idea how important it is.  


what i mean by foundation is,, lifting with anabolic steroids in blood for long enough time to develop good solid structure,, but as of today ....go ahead and jump on all the hgh and insulina you can get your hands on because...if you dont! you will be with good foundation stuck at 200lb ....whiel the gh insulina mega doses will be sitting with jason korea eating some kimchee

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2011, 08:26:49 PM »
yes,,and philsulina is virgin muscle that is MAXED!,, this is big problem for bodybuilding,, it became ONLY DRUG AND DRUG RESPONSE as of yesterday,,in other words,, before you even go in a gymnasium ...make sure you got your source and he is good source and legit and have good products....because with out that source you will be N O T H I N G

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H0W EARLY DID PHIL START AND H0W MANY INSULIN IUS IS HE TAKING?

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Re: What does "foundation" mean?
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2011, 08:32:53 PM »
H0W EARLY DID PHIL START AND H0W MANY INSULIN IUS IS HE TAKING?

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