Author Topic: Would a 97 Nasser win the 2011 Olympia? (Read 37099 times)

Khofo · « **Reply #51 on:** September 19, 2011, 06:20:31 PM »

Félla

Primemuscle · « **Reply #52 on:** September 19, 2011, 06:54:31 PM »

I don't believe it is fair to compare bodybuilders from different eras. Each of these fellows are great in their own time. I am thrilled that someone with more refinement like Phil Heath has won Mr. Olympia. Maybe the mass monster look is becoming passé.

Nirvana · « **Reply #53 on:** September 19, 2011, 06:57:56 PM »

actually 97 nasser was pretty soft. 97 had horrible lighting and a shitty over powering background. I hated 97 everybody looked shitty for some reason

Game Time · « **Reply #54 on:** September 19, 2011, 06:58:59 PM »

Not a chance, Phil has much better conditioning. Once they turned around it would be over.

Nasser has no symmetry, he cant even keep his eyes straight

Game Time · « **Reply #55 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:03:59 PM »

Kofho you did some good work on those comparison pics. Glad someone has the time to put that together lol

Khofo · « **Reply #56 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:05:21 PM »

NarroW

With russian kiD

cephissus · « **Reply #57 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:13:07 PM »

has any top, in-shape bodybuilder ever looked as shitty as phil does in this picture?

i mean, ever?

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #58 on:** September 20, 2011, 12:59:38 AM »

mr. olympia 97 was not at all nasser's best!!.. not even close to it.. he was clearly better in many others shows like NOC 95, huston 95, olympia 95, olympia 96, AC 97 and more!!..

berblexer · « **Reply #59 on:** September 20, 2011, 03:46:20 AM »

Tito24 · « **Reply #60 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:00:36 AM »

hi phil

Bobby · « **Reply #61 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:07:26 AM »

from schmoe to mr. O in 6 years, insulin is one helluva drug

greeneyes · « **Reply #62 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:16:16 AM »

best back actually

Khofo · « **Reply #63 on:** September 20, 2011, 05:16:43 AM »

94-95-96 nassér el sambody buildinG gh15 féllA vs philsuliN

(NO HOMo)

liberty · « **Reply #64 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:01:46 AM »

Nirvana · « **Reply #65 on:** September 20, 2011, 09:07:41 AM »

just because he got second in 97 doesn't mean he was better than he was in 96 win he theoretically got 3rd.

bigbobs · « **Reply #66 on:** September 20, 2011, 09:39:10 AM »

Because of Phil's narrow structure he looks great in his solo pictures. The 2011 and most recent Olympia pics also have much better lighting than many of the older shows, like Nirvana said the 97 Olympia pics have one of the worst lightings ever.

Also agreed on the above 97 was not Nasser's best; he was better in 95-96 Olympia, NOC and Grand Prix shows or even 97/98/99 Arnold Classic and 98 Olympia.

On the same stage with same lighting if you put a prime Nasser next to 2011 Phil Heath he (Phil) would not look so impressive anymore and would not be able to compete with the sheer amount of conditioned size of Huge Nasser

bigbobs · « **Reply #67 on:** September 20, 2011, 09:41:38 AM »

Something else to consider - you can put together solo pics of 2011 Heath vs. Dorian or Ronnie or anyone in poorer lighting and would give the same illusion.

Big Worm · « **Reply #68 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:24:02 AM »

Quote from: Bam-bam on September 18, 2011, 09:40:36 PM

Who is up for some pic comparisons??

Why..? Did he win it in 97.?

kiwiol · « **Reply #69 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:28:05 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on September 20, 2011, 09:39:10 AM

On the same stage with same lighting if you put a prime Nasser next to 2011 Phil Heath he (Phil) would not look so impressive anymore and would not be able to compete with the sheer amount of conditioned size of Huge Nasser

Nasser got beaten by a much lighter Flex in the 97 and 98 Arnold Classic. PH would beat Nasser for the same reason Flex did - from the front Nasser would dominate maybe the FLS and Abs n thighs. But as soon as they turn to the side and back poses, PH beats him hands down. No contest.

Overall, Phil in his best shape beats a prime Nasser.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #70 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:31:10 AM »

Quote from: kiwiol on September 20, 2011, 10:28:05 AM

Nasser got beaten by a much lighter Flex in the 97 and 98 Arnold Classic. PH would beat Nasser for the same reason Flex did - from the front Nasser would dominate maybe the FLS and Abs n thighs. But as soon as they turn to the side and back poses, PH beats him hands down. No contest.

Overall, Phil in his best shape beats a prime Nasser.

easily

Nasser got beat by a TWO-HUNDRED-AND-FIVE-POUND Shawn Ray , his advantage in size means squat

bigbobs · « **Reply #71 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:31:24 AM »

Quote from: kiwiol on September 20, 2011, 10:28:05 AM

Nasser got beaten by a much lighter Flex in the 97 and 98 Arnold Classic. PH would beat Nasser for the same reason Flex did - from the front Nasser would dominate maybe the FLS and Abs n thighs. But as soon as they turn to the side and back poses, PH beats him hands down. No contest.

Overall, Phil in his best shape beats a prime Nasser.

Wheeler is much more aesthetic than Heath. Bad comparison.

bigbobs · « **Reply #72 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:32:31 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on September 20, 2011, 10:31:10 AM

easily

Nasser got beat by a TWO-HUNDRED-AND-FIVE-POUND Shawn Ray , his advantage in size means squat

So you think Heath would beat Nasser with ease yet Dorian would beat Heath with ease, even though Nasser and Dorain were pretty close in contest placings during Dorian's last three years?

kiwiol · « **Reply #73 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:36:51 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on September 20, 2011, 10:31:24 AM

Wheeler is much more aesthetic than Heath. Bad comparison.

It's not just about the structure, which doesn't really work against Phil much anyway. There's still the problem of the side and back poses where Phil beats Nasser handily. Overall, it's no contest.

Bam-bam · « **Reply #74 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:37:41 AM »

Quote from: Big Worm on September 20, 2011, 10:24:02 AM

Why..? Did he win it in 97.?

yes he won, but then some schmoes robbed the trophy from him and gave to the one armed man